Please comment on this 2 carat stone -thinking of buying

[Diamond 4 Ever]

Hi,

I am thinking of buying this stone. I am hoping that some of the experts on this forum can give me some feedback, etc... I don''t have the crown and pavillion angle for the HCA, but when I looked at this stone side by side with some other E colored stones, they were all equally sparkly (at least to my untrained eyes). This stone has a 52% table, the other ones used for the comparison has tables and dephth that were within the ideal range. I am afraid that I will have to decide without the sarin report because the jewelry store doesn''t have this machine. So, any comment or thoughts would be very much appreciated!

Here is the info:

GIA cert
2.00 Carat Round Brilliant
Color E
Clarity - VS2 (pin points & feathers, one feather on the girdle that can be seen from the crown and pav view, does this mean that the feather extends from the crown to pavillion side?)
Measurements: 8.06-8.14x5.03mm
Dephth - 62.1%
Table - 52% (will this throw the stone out of the idea cut range?)
Girdle - thin - stlightly thick, faceted
Culet - small
Polish - very good
symmetry - very good
Flourescence - none

The top question I have is what kind of effect will a 52% table have on the cut performance and will the variation on the girdle be a cause for concern? Thanks in advance for your comments!

 

[valeria101]

Sarin reports anyone? For these specs, I would want one! Otherwise, all sounds good (given the very limited info).

 

[pqcollectibles]

If you live in a major metropolitan area, chances are there is a Sarin or OGI somewhere in town. Even if the stone has to be shipped out, you should get that information.

You should also get magnified pics of the feather to be sure it does not break the surface of the diamond. Especially if the feather runs toward the girdle.

Since you've seen this diamond personally, it must have appealled to you. With a 52% table, sounds like it would be a firey diamond!

Another approach you could take is to make purchase contingent on a satisfactory, INDEPENDENT appraisal. Locate an appraiser who has the appropiate equipment and contact them regarding the diamond. That way, the appraiser will be aware the diamond is coming and schedule accordingly. After you make arrangements with the appraiser, you will know a time frame to allow for the return period contingency. Get the return for full refund in writing.

 

[hoorray]

I don't know the technical answer. But...

if you are planning to buy a stone of this size and cost, you should plan to get an independent appraisal. If you can't get a sarin or OGI analysis (which I would push hard for), then I would not buy this stone without a good return policy that gives you time to get the information and analysis from a pro on your own. This might turn out to be a great stone, but from what you've listed here, you don't have enough information to know if a.) it's a good stone and b.) you are paying an approprate price. A good appraiser can tell you that, and eliminate the mystery.

 

[fire&ice]

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On 1/27/2004 7:06:53 PM 2 carat wrote:

Hi,

A cert
2.00 Carat Round Brilliant
Color E
Clarity - VS2 (pin points & feathers, one feather on the girdle that can be seen from the crown and pav view, does this mean that the feather extends from the crown to pavillion side?)
Measurements: 8.06-8.14x5.03mm
Dephth - 62.1%
Table - 52% (will this throw the stone out of the idea cut range?)
Girdle - thin - stlightly thick, faceted
Culet - small
Polish - very good
symmetry - very good
Flourescence - none

The top question I have is what kind of effect will a 52% table have on the cut performance and will the variation on the girdle be a cause for concern? Thanks in advance for your comments!

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Does the feather extend to the girdle? If so, isn't there durability issues?

This stone isn't speaking to me from the information you provided. A bit more out of round - the flux of thin to slightly thick girdle. How's the price compared to a pricescope search of similar stones?

 

[fire&ice]

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On 1/27/2004 7:06:53 PM 2 carat wrote:

Hi,

A cert
2.00 Carat Round Brilliant
Color E
Clarity - VS2 (pin points & feathers, one feather on the girdle that can be seen from the crown and pav view, does this mean that the feather extends from the crown to pavillion side?)
Measurements: 8.06-8.14x5.03mm
Dephth - 62.1%
Table - 52% (will this throw the stone out of the idea cut range?)
Girdle - thin - stlightly thick, faceted
Culet - small
Polish - very good
symmetry - very good
Flourescence - none

The top question I have is what kind of effect will a 52% table have on the cut performance and will the variation on the girdle be a cause for concern? Thanks in advance for your comments!

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Does the feather extend to the girdle? If so, isn't there durability issues?

This stone isn't speaking to me from the information you provided. A bit more out of round - the flux of thin to slightly thick girdle. How's the price compared to a pricescope search of similar stones?

 

[Diamond 4 Ever]

Hi fire&ice,
The price is very much in line with what I see on pricescope for similar proportions and grade. That's why I am considering getting it from a this jewelry store. You are right, the feather at the girdle does concern me. But about the girdle thickness variation, I know it is not optimum, but it may be a compromise for me to accept in exchange for the competive price and the fact that I can see the diamond before buying it. The only thing lacking is the sarin and the jeweler is sending the stone out to get it done. Hope to get the results soon. Thanks..

 

[fire&ice]

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On 1/28/2004 1:53:26 PM 2 carat wrote:

Hi fire&ice,
The only thing lacking is the sarin and the jeweler is sending the stone out to get it done. Hope to get the results soon. Thanks..----------------

Interesting that the jeweler would accomodate. Good to know - and keep us posted!

 

[nuthead]

Hi,

I am thinking of buying the following stone and hope some experts here can give me a fair opinion. The price tag on this stone is about $11K.

Shape: Round
Weight: 1.51 ct
Clarity: VS-2
Color: H-1
Measurements: 7.34 - 7.39 - 4.53mm
Table: 56%
Total Depth: 61.50%
Crown Angle: 34.5 degrees
Crown Height: 16.21
Pavilion Angle: 40.75 degrees
Pavilion Depth: 43.10%
Polish: excellent
Symmetry: excellent
Girdle: .7 - 1.7%
Culet: None
Fluorescence: None
Authenticity: Natural
Treatment: None

The top questions I have are 1)is this an ideal cut? 2)Is it worth the money?

Thanks a million

 

[diamondsman]

I have no problem with the table,even though I haven't seen many with tables less than 53%.I have a problem with the diameter of the stone,2.00cts. should be around the 8.2MM.+/- in diameter,this one is on the deep side that's why it's lacking the right diameter.


other than that it is a nice stone