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bava

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I''ve been reading/lurking for awhile and have learned a lot (although I realize I still have a ways to go). I''ve found a stone that I''m seriously considering. I was hoping to get some advice on its cut. I know it''s not ideal (though I''d be interested in reactions given the discussion in a post below on ideal cuts), but is the depth a concern? From GIA:

Measurements: 7.19 - 7.36 x 4.65
Weight: 1.51
Depth: 63.9%
Table: 54%
Girdle: Thin to Thick, Faceted
Culet: None
Polish: VG
Symmetry: Good
Clarity: VS1
Color: F
Flourescence: none

Price is in the 13k range. I don''t have more precise numbers at the moment, but any advice on what''s there would be welcome.
 
It has a chance of having a good combination of crown and pavilion angles (because it has a thick girdle, but smaller spread) - but you would need to get those angles from the vendor.
Or you could ask for ideal-scope / ASET photo''s too, which are more valuable
 
The stone has a diameter of a well-cut 1.30-ish diamond. That is what the depth is causing. In round brilliants, this is a rather straightforward phenomenon.

Now, a super-ideal cut 1.30 would be around the same price.

What would you prefer?
 
Paul makes a point that I would want to seriously consider.

What are you paying for this 1.50c stone that looks like a 1.30c stone? That is a concern. If you are paying the price that a 1.50c would cost, then why settle for a stone like this?

I always say to people that there are TONS of diamonds out there. Don't settle for something...find what you really want and what fits your budget. Don't know what you are paying for this, but honestly...I'd rather have a 1.30c stone that is ideal cut that is optimized to look like a beautiful 1.30c than a too-deep 1.50c that is going to leak light like a sieve. What is the benefit of a stone like this? So it can be said that it's a 1.50c stone? I'd take that well-cut 1.30c anyday.


Edited to add I see you are paying in the 13's for this stone.

Personally in this situation, I'd rather have this 1.36c F VS1 stone H&A stone:

http://www.goodoldgold.com/1_366ct_f_vs1_h&a.htm

for less than 13k and it's a cherry cut as well.
 
This stone is severely "out of round". The difference between the max and min diameter is 0.17mm (7.36mm-7.19mm). Ouch. This stone is more oval than round. Acceptable tolerance for a 1ct stone is 0.10mm and for a 2ct stone is 0.12mm. This stone was cut to make the 1.50 -1.99 carat pricing range. Cut properly this stone would be worth 15-20% less as it would fall into the 1.00-1.49 carat pricing grid. This cutter was more concerned about maximizing his/her wholesale value than cutting an ideal stone. I wouldn''t pay a premium for this stone, it''s about average.
 
Drop ten and punt.

The stone swing in mm is not great for the symmetry. It''s deep & has a smaller face up appearance for it''s carat weight. And, the price isn''t a deal.
 
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