Pear diamond help

[vita123]

Hi! Just wondering what you guys think about this pear from James Allen? I’m after a pear for a double halo split shank ring.

0.73 Carat pear diamond

This pear shaped 0.73 carat I color vs2 clarity has a diamond grading report from GIA

www.jamesallen.com

That black band across the stone, is that a bow tie or its not something bad?

Thanks in advance!

 

[KKJohnson]

Hi! Just wondering what you guys think about this pear from James Allen? I’m after a pear for a double halo split shank ring.

0.73 Carat pear diamond

This pear shaped 0.73 carat I color vs2 clarity has a diamond grading report from GIA

www.jamesallen.com

That black band across the stone, is that a bow tie or its not something bad?

Thanks in advance!

the black is very noticeable bow tie.

What do you think of these? Because you are going to be putting this in a double halo I dont think you should go lower than a G-H unless you know the intended wearer is not color sensitive, Pears tend to show more body color.

0.74 Carat pear diamond

This pear shaped 0.74 carat H color vs2 clarity has a diamond grading report from GIA

www.jamesallen.com

0.73 Carat pear diamond

This pear shaped 0.73 carat D color vs2 clarity has a diamond grading report from GIA

www.jamesallen.com

0.72 Carat pear diamond

This pear shaped 0.72 carat F color vs2 clarity has a diamond grading report from GIA

www.jamesallen.com

0.80 Carat pear diamond

This pear shaped 0.8 carat D color vs2 clarity has a diamond grading report from GIA

www.jamesallen.com

0.82 Carat pear diamond

This pear shaped 0.82 carat I color vvs2 clarity has a diamond grading report from GIA

www.jamesallen.com

Odd Ball Shape, very elongated but would look nice in a double halo

0.73 Carat pear diamond

This pear shaped 0.73 carat H color vs2 clarity has a diamond grading report from GIA

www.jamesallen.com

 

[ariel144]

Yes, that is a bad bow tie. Also see all the gray mush below the bow tie...not good either. You want the facet pattern emanating from the bow tie to reach down to the point of the table as the stone moves.

The good thing about pear diamonds they hide inclusions very well. Also with fancy cuts you want to stay within the D-G color range. As below G you will see color in the bottom point of the stone.

Here are some nice ones on JA ....find a clean SI1 or SI2 in an higher color. Look at the 2nd stone and see how the facets are going all the way to the point of the table as the stone turns. Nice faceting on that one...also on the first stone which is a "fat" pear.

https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/pear-shaped/0.74-carat-f-color-si1-clarity-sku-7040125

https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/pear-shaped/0.70-carat-e-color-si1-clarity-sku-7275648

https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/pear-shaped/0.70-carat-d-color-si1-clarity-sku-7573424

https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/pear-shaped/0.72-carat-e-color-si2-clarity-sku-7958774

Good luck with your search. You have some pretty nice pears to choose from in your price range. JA will call in several pears for you and tell you which one is the best to the gemologists eye and also do ASETS.

 

[vita123]

I thought so! I’ll look at all the other options you’ve sent me and let you know which one I’ve decided on.

 

[vita123]

Thank you so much for your input!

 

[vita123]

I’m just looking at the diamonds and the higher colors indeed look better! I’m currently loving the D SI1 0.7! I love the fat pear and the elongated one. Decisions decisions!

 

[AV_]

I would always vote for D,E/SI as a happy combination & the unusual proportions - both very long & very short, catch my eye. I think that a long pear makes for particularly elegant halo rings & the size is great for one [I am thinking of a particular ring with a Fancy vivid Yellow pear from around here, but cannot find the relevant posts right now]

2p

 

[AV_]

This could be my choice: WWW - nothing worth mentioning regarding its clarity characteristics (some smudges under star facets), not small 8.3 X 5 mm versus the usual 7 X 5 for the .7 weight, nice proportions & bright (judge this against the gray of the background - within a small range of motion around the straight face-up position, the diamond may appear whiter than the background, with a few very bright refections turning black - hopefully not all arranged as a large area, that in pears tends to form that bow-tie; here those flickers are spread out enough for me).

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I must have mentioned elsewhere around here that sometimes shallow pears (depth less than 60%) with small tables (less than 60%) may be very beautiful - I think this is one such pear... they are not common at all.

Delighted!

 

[rockysalamander]

Because you are going to be putting this in a double halo

If the halo is custom, its pretty easy to pick a stone. But, if the halo will be a stock setting, you need to pay attention to the size and shape of the setting area to be sure it will look symmetrical once set.

 

[Ally T]

I’m just looking at the diamonds and the higher colors indeed look better! I’m currently loving the D SI1 0.7! I love the fat pear and the elongated one. Decisions decisions!

Nice problem to have!

 

[mrs-b]

@KKJohnson's D VS2, @ariel144's E SI1 or D SI1 are my best bets, leaning most strongly towards the D SI1

Last week I bought a .8ct pear:

0.80-Carat Pear Shaped Diamond | Blue Nile

www.bluenile.com

It's to match another G colored pear, but you'll see it comes up white, as the faceting is more distinct in the tip, reducing the mush effect, and keeping the concentration of color to a minimum.

I always look for a table under 60% as, in my experience, it tends to be associated with better faceting and less bow tie and just rather more interest. Since you can't see the table stats on diamonds on James Allen, I tend to stay with Blue Nile, even tho I did buy a pear through JA last month also. I called them to get the certificate - which is a pain, but did in the end go forward with it. Again, it had a 58% table.

Here's another pear I bought last month as well; same deal - small table, no bow tie - again through Blue Nile.

0.32-Carat Pear Shaped Diamond | Blue Nile

www.bluenile.com

I would strongly recommend you cross the very fat pear off your list. Once it's double halo'd it will look like a circle slightly out of whack. Haloing softens the tip of a pear and if you take that away from a very squat pear, then tend to look like wonky circles.

I agree that keeping it very white is a good way to negate - or at least disguise - the color and general drabness that comes from mushy faceting.

Please don't proceed without seeing the GIA certificate. Good luck!

 

[mrs-b]

By the way - here's a beauty from BN - zero bowtie, lovely elegant classic pear shape, good faceting at the tip. Table, unsurprisingly, 58%.

0.70-Carat Pear Shaped Diamond | Blue Nile

www.bluenile.com

Equally gorgeous:

0.70-Carat Pear Shaped Diamond | Blue Nile

www.bluenile.com

But here's the best one I found. You don't mention your budget, so this may be way over, but here's all the things you should be looking for in a pear:

0.70-Carat Pear Shaped Diamond | Blue Nile

www.bluenile.com

Can you see what looks like a bit of a 'waterfall' effect? There is -zero- bowtie, and the facets seem to cascade from the very center of the pear down to the tip. There's an optical illusion of curved faceting down the sides, which adds to this effect, making your pear look like a diamond waterfall. There's no bowtie, no mushiness, no dead spots (very common in pears). And it looks CLEAN - which I think is a bonus. The problem with haloing a pear is that halos tend to be very twinkly, sparkly things (if they're made with good melee). If the pear isn't up to snuff, the halo will make the pear look dead.

To my own discredit, here's a photo of my double halo'd pear pendant with a very dead looking pear I bought some years ago in the center. It's a .79 I colored pear and you can see, when you look at the melee, that there is a huge disparity in light return:



You can see it's dead from the center up, and even the head (the round part, as opposed to the point) looks pretty flat. The halo makes it look worse. (Can I just say the new pear I recently bought is to replace this horror? Hopefully this will be looking better shortly!)

So all that to say, pears in halos can be gorgeous, but it takes care.

I hope you get the ring of your dreams!

 

[vita123]

From all the options you guys have provided me, I am leaning towards..

1 - @ariel144's D SI1 (good compromise against budget)
2 - @AV_'s E SI1 (very good for budget plus I like the slim line)
3 - @KKJohnson's D VS2 (higher end of budget)

This is going to be a custom setting. I have a local jeweller who is brilliant but diamonds are way overpriced and I can choose (with all your help) something better for their price. My budget is $2000 max for the stone.

@mrs-b, I think you are right about the fat pears! For this one, I think I prefer the normal shaped pears or the slim, elongated ones. I think its class when its a little bit elongated on a double halo setting. I know what you mean about the dullness on the tip It's a very nice pendant!!

 

[Swirl68]

From all the options you guys have provided me, I am leaning towards..

1 - @ariel144's D SI1 (good compromise against budget)
2 - @AV_'s E SI1 (very good for budget plus I like the slim line)
3 - @KKJohnson's D VS2 (higher end of budget)

The bowtie on the D SI1 would be a dealbreaker for me. Which D VS2 are you considering? Is it the .73 or .80?

 

[vita123]

@Swirl68 Oh gosh! You’re right! I didn’t even notice that. I was looking at the 0.73 one.

 

[natasha-cupcake]

I love the stone found by @mrs-b. This is a beautiful pear diamond. Nice clear facets, no bowtie, beautiful shape--not too chubby, not too long. If this is in budget, it gets my vote over all the others.

0.70-Carat Pear Shaped Diamond | Blue Nile

www.bluenile.com

 

[Swirl68]

@Swirl68 Oh gosh! You’re right! I didn’t even notice that. I was looking at the 0.73 one.

While not quite as prominent as the one in the D SI 1, the bowtie on this one would be a dealbreaker for me as well.



My favorites close to budget posted so far are the first two by @mrs-b.

 

[mrs-b]

While not quite as prominent as the one in the D SI 1, the bowtie on this one would be a dealbreaker for me as well.



My favorites close to budget posted so far are the first two by @mrs-b.

Thanks, @Swirl68. I'm with you on this - I hate bow ties on pears.

 

[vita123]

Wow! I thought I might just get one of those stone that @mrs-b recommended and when I logged in, they are all sold!!

 

[mrs-b]

Wow! I thought I might just get one of those stone that @mrs-b recommended and when I logged in, they are all sold!!

What a shame! That's the problem with putting up good stones on PriceScope - if they really *are* good, they fly out the door!

 

[vita123]

I think so! Back to the drawing board again. Now I feel like kicking myself for not being faster!

 

[Swirl68]

You might try branching out from Blue Nile and James Allen. Yadav, for instance, has some interesting possibilities. Although their videos are not near as telling as BN and JA, and they take forever to load.
I thought the first one here was particularly interesting.
The second one seemed nice for the price.
The third one has a decent aset, but has an etch channel which I'm not sure I'd want.
The other two look nice.

Shop Pear 0.71-1.21 carat Loose Diamonds at Yadavjewelry.com -

Shop wholesale natural loose diamonds at Yadav Jewelry. As jewelers and diamonds wholesalers since 1983, you can trust Yadav to bring you fine quality, prompt service, and excellent prices.

www.yadavjewelry.com

Shop Pear 0.7-1.2 carat Loose Diamonds at Yadavjewelry.com -

Shop wholesale natural loose diamonds at Yadav Jewelry. As jewelers and diamonds wholesalers since 1983, you can trust Yadav to bring you fine quality, prompt service, and excellent prices.

www.yadavjewelry.com

Yadav Diamonds and Jewelry | Natural & Lab Diamonds

Yadav Diamonds and Jewelry - https://www.yadavjewelry.com

www.yadavjewelry.com

Shop Pear 0.7-1.2 carat Loose Diamonds at Yadavjewelry.com -

Shop wholesale natural loose diamonds at Yadav Jewelry. As jewelers and diamonds wholesalers since 1983, you can trust Yadav to bring you fine quality, prompt service, and excellent prices.

www.yadavjewelry.com

Shop Pear 0.7-1.2 carat Loose Diamonds at Yadavjewelry.com -

Shop wholesale natural loose diamonds at Yadav Jewelry. As jewelers and diamonds wholesalers since 1983, you can trust Yadav to bring you fine quality, prompt service, and excellent prices.

www.yadavjewelry.com

Also, the ones @mrs-b posted may just be on hold and not actually purchased. If you keep watching, they may get released back into inventory.

 

[vita123]

I haven’t really looked into yadav. I like the last 2 you’ve posted @Swirl68. Although its hard to see the diamond perform. What do you think about the last 2?

 

[vita123]

Hi guys! After kicking myself for missing out and stalking blue nile, I finally got my chance! The diamond @mrs-b recommended became available again! So this it! I’ve put it on hold and will organise buying it tomorrow! Wee!

0.70-Carat Pear Shaped Diamond | Blue Nile

www.bluenile.com

Just wanting that confirmation I’m doing the right thing. I’ve more than stretched my budget for this one so hopefully worth it!

Let me know what you guys think!