Opinions on This Diamond-Take 2!

[bbmustang]

http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut/1.02-carat-g-color-vs2-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-382385

I really like this diamond, after talking with a James Allen rep they really loved it (image that ).

What do you guys think? Falls close to Ideal ranges definitely should be a excellent stone. I just don't have the confidence to add it to a three to get ideal scopes.

Can you guys find 2 more stones from James Allen that are this good or better under $8k(or slightly over).

Or can you find me a stone from one of the other vendors in the range that is better.

I think at this point I am just nitpicking but I just don't have the confidence to pull the trigger on a stone.


Thanks for any help guys and gals.

 

[diamondseeker2006]

This one is AGS Ideal cut:

http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3016678.htm?source=pricescope

This one has good numbers and is worth having in your list of three even though it is $200 over.

http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut/1.07-carat-g-color-vs2-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-387135

It is tedious looking through their stones because you can't set angles in the advanced search. It means you have to click on every stone and many don't have the angles listed on the main diamond page which means clicking on the GIA report. I find so many of their "ideal" cut stones are not, so I wish they'd separate out the stones a little better.

 

[bbmustang]

This one is AGS Ideal cut:

http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3016678.htm?source=pricescope

This one has good numbers and is worth having in your list of three even though it is $200 over.

http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut/1.07-carat-g-color-vs2-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-387135

It is tedious looking through their stones because you can't set angles in the advanced search. It means you have to click on every stone and many don't have the angles listed on the main diamond page which means clicking on the GIA report. I find so many of their "ideal" cut stones are not, so I wish they'd separate out the stones a little better.

I have been looking at that exact stone from White Flash. Do you believe it is a great stone?

 

[bbmustang]

I also know what you mean on the JA stones, I have looked at them until my eyes are crossed.

Here are two more that I had on the list what do you think about these?

http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut/1.03-carat-g-color-vs2-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-471002

http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut/1.01-carat-g-color-vs1-clarity-sku-428042

 

[diamondseeker2006]

I also know what you mean on the JA stones, I have looked at them until my eyes are crossed.

Here are two more that I had on the list what do you think about these?

http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut/1.03-carat-g-color-vs2-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-471002

http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut/1.01-carat-g-color-vs1-clarity-sku-428042

This one has more potential than the other, but I don't see the AGS report there:

http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut/1.01-carat-g-color-vs1-clarity-sku-428042

The WF stone is very nice and I would definitely keep it on the short list. Once you have your final 3-4 to decide between, I'd be looking at things like diameter to see which ones face up larger and that kind of thing. None of these is superideal cut, but they appear to be well cut and should be beautiful stones. We will know more once you get the JA images.

 

[bbmustang]

I also know what you mean on the JA stones, I have looked at them until my eyes are crossed.

Here are two more that I had on the list what do you think about these?

http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut/1.03-carat-g-color-vs2-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-471002

http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut/1.01-carat-g-color-vs1-clarity-sku-428042

This one has more potential than the other, but I don't see the AGS report there:

http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut/1.01-carat-g-color-vs1-clarity-sku-428042

The WF stone is very nice and I would definitely keep it on the short list. Once you have your final 3-4 to decide between, I'd be looking at things like diameter to see which ones face up larger and that kind of thing. None of these is superideal cut, but they appear to be well cut and should be beautiful stones. We will know more once you get the JA images.

So you believe the Whiteflash stone is the better than any of the JA Stones?

 

[RockyRacoon]

I have been looking at that exact stone from White Flash. Do you believe it is a great stone?

One point about the WF stone - it has the note 'The clarity grade of this diamond is based on clouds that are not shown.'

With VS2 clarity, this should not be a problem, but it's worthwhile to check with them prior to finalizing anything.

If no issues with the clouds, this would be a great pick!

 

[bbmustang]

I have been looking at that exact stone from White Flash. Do you believe it is a great stone?

One point about the WF stone - it has the note 'The clarity grade of this diamond is based on clouds that are not shown.'

With VS2 clarity, this should not be a problem, but it's worthwhile to check with them prior to finalizing anything.

If no issues with the clouds, this would be a great pick!

What issues with the clouds would I need to look for?

 

[RockyRacoon]

I have been looking at that exact stone from White Flash. Do you believe it is a great stone?

One point about the WF stone - it has the note 'The clarity grade of this diamond is based on clouds that are not shown.'

With VS2 clarity, this should not be a problem, but it's worthwhile to check with them prior to finalizing anything.

If no issues with the clouds, this would be a great pick!

What issues with the clouds would I need to look for?

Sometimes when this note is included on the cert, there is a transparency or other issue with the stone.

For the most part, this is only seen in SI1 and lower stones.

However, any time I see that note, I would want to check with the vendor to ensure it does not suffer any negative transparency/performance issues from the clouds.

With VS2, it should not be an issue, but you just want to be completely comfortable with your purchase, so it's a worthwhile question to ask.

 

[bbmustang]

I have been looking at that exact stone from White Flash. Do you believe it is a great stone?

One point about the WF stone - it has the note 'The clarity grade of this diamond is based on clouds that are not shown.'

With VS2 clarity, this should not be a problem, but it's worthwhile to check with them prior to finalizing anything.

If no issues with the clouds, this would be a great pick!

What issues with the clouds would I need to look for?

Sometimes when this note is included on the cert, there is a transparency or other issue with the stone.

For the most part, this is only seen in SI1 and lower stones.

However, any time I see that note, I would want to check with the vendor to ensure it does not suffer any negative transparency/performance issues from the clouds.

With VS2, it should not be an issue, but you just want to be completely comfortable with your purchase, so it's a worthwhile question to ask.

Thank you for the info.

I have not been able to see a stone that meets the ideal cut proportions. I live about 5 hours away from Solomon Brothers and I am thinking about taking a trip down there to see some stones in person that meet these criteria. Since I am so indecisive do you think this would be a good thing for me to do? That way I could view some diamonds with great proportions to see what I am really trying to decide between.

 

[bbmustang]

Here is the setting that we have picked out (don't mind my horrible pics)

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9X5VhNkTA5YdE9scjdEMkJ5OGFUZjBxRERZS09BODNqNkdr/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9X5VhNkTA5YZTVNQWlhWjN6VlNLamgwaGVuSk1qWWU4bzBJ/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9X5VhNkTA5YQkJQQkhoTmJLa2d5UVVsakx3enhkRDlNaklN/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9X5VhNkTA5YSHhhMDF4cjhIbFVoVjJOU3B0QjlTa0d6YnBR/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9X5VhNkTA5YY1NKSGpuR3N5Qnl5S29jemFJR0Q1VGJFOVhN/view?usp=sharing

The last four pictures are with a .9 carat diamond which we determined set too low so that is why I had to step up to a 1 carat. She really loved this setting. It's the only one she kept coming back to.

The first picture is taken with a stone that is 1.01, does that look like the right size to you all?

 

[RockyRacoon]

I have been looking at that exact stone from White Flash. Do you believe it is a great stone?

One point about the WF stone - it has the note 'The clarity grade of this diamond is based on clouds that are not shown.'

With VS2 clarity, this should not be a problem, but it's worthwhile to check with them prior to finalizing anything.

If no issues with the clouds, this would be a great pick!

What issues with the clouds would I need to look for?

Sometimes when this note is included on the cert, there is a transparency or other issue with the stone.

For the most part, this is only seen in SI1 and lower stones.

However, any time I see that note, I would want to check with the vendor to ensure it does not suffer any negative transparency/performance issues from the clouds.

With VS2, it should not be an issue, but you just want to be completely comfortable with your purchase, so it's a worthwhile question to ask.

Thank you for the info.

I have not been able to see a stone that meets the ideal cut proportions. I live about 5 hours away from Solomon Brothers and I am thinking about taking a trip down there to see some stones in person that meet these criteria. Since I am so indecisive do you think this would be a good thing for me to do? That way I could view some diamonds with great proportions to see what I am really trying to decide between.

Looking at well-cut stones would be the best way to figure out what your preferences/tolerances happen to be.

You may want to start another thread, indicating the general area of where you're located, so folks can give you some names of jewelers worth visiting. This might also be able to help: https://www.pricescope.com/jewelers

 

[bbmustang]

I have been looking at that exact stone from White Flash. Do you believe it is a great stone?

One point about the WF stone - it has the note 'The clarity grade of this diamond is based on clouds that are not shown.'

With VS2 clarity, this should not be a problem, but it's worthwhile to check with them prior to finalizing anything.

If no issues with the clouds, this would be a great pick!

What issues with the clouds would I need to look for?

Sometimes when this note is included on the cert, there is a transparency or other issue with the stone.

For the most part, this is only seen in SI1 and lower stones.

However, any time I see that note, I would want to check with the vendor to ensure it does not suffer any negative transparency/performance issues from the clouds.

With VS2, it should not be an issue, but you just want to be completely comfortable with your purchase, so it's a worthwhile question to ask.

Thank you for the info.

I have not been able to see a stone that meets the ideal cut proportions. I live about 5 hours away from Solomon Brothers and I am thinking about taking a trip down there to see some stones in person that meet these criteria. Since I am so indecisive do you think this would be a good thing for me to do? That way I could view some diamonds with great proportions to see what I am really trying to decide between.

Looking at well-cut stones would be the best way to figure out what your preferences/tolerances happen to be.

You may want to start another thread, indicating the general area of where you're located, so folks can give you some names of jewelers worth visiting. This might also be able to help: https://www.pricescope.com/jewelers

Sounds great thanks.

 

[diamondseeker2006]

Solomon Brothers just wouldn't be the place to do that. I'd say yes if you were close to a vendor like GOG or WF who could show you superideals versus ideal cut, etc., but SB doesn't really specialize in cut quality and might not even have ASETs, etc. and probably not an in stock inventory sufficient to do this. I do not think you need to do that. I have ordered all my stones from vendors far away with no problem. The diamonds we will help you narrow down will be beautiful stones and far better than what you see in the typical jewelry stores.

 

[bbmustang]

Solomon Brothers just wouldn't be the place to do that. I'd say yes if you were close to a vendor like GOG or WF who could show you superideals versus ideal cut, etc., but SB doesn't really specialize in cut quality and might not even have ASETs, etc. and probably not an in stock inventory sufficient to do this. I do not think you need to do that. I have ordered all my stones from vendors far away with no problem. The diamonds we will help you narrow down will be beautiful stones and far better than what you see in the typical jewelry stores.

Ok that sounds good. I am just going crazy trying to decide.

 

[diamondseeker2006]

Solomon Brothers just wouldn't be the place to do that. I'd say yes if you were close to a vendor like GOG or WF who could show you superideals versus ideal cut, etc., but SB doesn't really specialize in cut quality and might not even have ASETs, etc. and probably not an in stock inventory sufficient to do this. I do not think you need to do that. I have ordered all my stones from vendors far away with no problem. The diamonds we will help you narrow down will be beautiful stones and far better than what you see in the typical jewelry stores.

Ok that sounds good. I am just going crazy trying to decide.

Don't go crazy! You have three now to ask JA for idealscopes or ASET images. Then you have the WF stone. If you want to stop now, you could certainly call WF and verify that this stone does not have diminished light performance because of the clouds (and I doubt it in VS2) and just go with that one!

 

[bbmustang]

http://www.gia.edu/cs/Satellite?pagename=GST%2FDispatcher&childpagename=GIA%2FPage%2FReportCheck&c=Page&cid=1355954554547&reportno=2165136701

 

[bbmustang]

My local jewler got this diamond in for me, measurements look great, I have not seen it in person yet, what should I expect? Also is there anything I should look for?

 

[bbmustang]

Well I went to check this diamond out and it defiantly beats any diamonds that I have seen in person. They don't have an ideal scope or asset. I though about ordong the starter kit myself before ordering. The think is they said they heavily discount this stone from 9300 to 7800 so it would fit closer to my budget. But I still have to pay local taxes. For that money I could get a WF ACA and know that I am getting a great stone from someone more trained then myself. I really would like to stay under 7500 for the total stone if possible.