Opinions on this 2.3

[wi w8]

Greetings everyone. I have been hanging out on this forum for many months just absorbing all the great knowledge all of you have!!

Thank you for this site and everyone''s willingness to share!

Here is the diamond that I am looking at. I have a budget of 25,000 so would appreciate any other thoughts of potential stones that would fit.

Weight: 2.3 Cts Round
Measurements: 8.42 8.35 5.23mm
Total Depth: 62.4%
Table Width: 57%
Crown Height: 15%
Pavilion Depth: 43%
Girdle Thickness: Medium, faceted
Polish: Good to very good
Symmetry: Excellent
Culet: None
Clarity: VS1
Color: G
Fluorescence: None

Thank you all for your input!

 

[stone-cold11]

EGL stone. So be prepared to have a lower color/clarity grade then as stated in the cert. From the numbers, looks promising in terms of cut but as crown and pavilion depth are given instead of angles, there might be inaccuracy in the HCA results.

Any chance to get a IS of the stone?

 

[snoopy0414]

Date: 10/26/2008 8:08:11 PM
Author: Stone-cold11
EGL stone. So be prepared to have a lower color/clarity grade then as stated in the cert. From the numbers, looks promising in terms of cut but as crown and pavilion depth are given instead of angles, there might be inaccuracy in the HCA results.

Any chance to get a IS of the stone?

Hi,

Why "be prepared to have a lower color/clarity grade then as stated in the cert?
I am also new here, and still trying to learn as much as I can about diamonds.

 

[Regular Guy]

Date: 10/26/2008 8:08:11 PM
Author: Stone-cold11
EGL stone. So be prepared to have a lower color/clarity grade then as stated in the cert. From the numbers, looks promising in terms of cut but as crown and pavilion depth are given instead of angles, there might be inaccuracy in the HCA results.

Any chance to get a IS of the stone?

Looks like.

Snoopy...read here (doing a search at upper right)...as this is the pattern with diamonds certified by the various EGLs...(though EGL USA seems better than others).

You might consider this one. Based on Pricescope pricing...it's like $25,280...but why this vendor classifies it as a good cut...I could only guess (though if you did ask them, I'd be interested to know what they say...).

But...if your selection reflects your requirements...it's a tough standard to fill with the usual culprits on this board...with in-house goods.

 

[kelpie]

You could consider this one. it is a true ideal and will face up larger than your current pick. Plus all the info you could want is there, including video. Besides, the EGL "G VS1" could very well be the similiar color/clarity as an AGS "I SI1" because the grading standards of AGS are widely regarded to be stricter than EGL. I think I read here you should be prepared for your stone to appraise approximately 2 color and clarity grades lower with an EGL stone than an AGS or GIA certed stone. I'm not sure whether that was said of the USA or Israel office of EGL.

 

[neatfreak]

Date: 10/26/2008 9:24:24 PM
Author: kelpie
You could consider this one. it is a true ideal and will face up larger than your current pick. Plus all the info you could want is there, including video. Besides, the EGL ''G VS1'' could very well be the similiar color/clarity as an AGS ''I SI1'' because the grading standards of AGS are widely regarded to be stricter than EGL. I think I read here you should be prepared for your stone to appraise approximately 2 color and clarity grades lower with an EGL stone than an AGS or GIA certed stone. I''m not sure whether that was said of the USA or Israel office of EGL.

EGL-Israel is one of the more notorious labs for it...but it doesn''t mean it couldn''t happen with EGL USA too.

 

[wi w8]

Thank you all for your input.

I will certainly take your recommendations to heart and tread carefully, while continuing to look for the right stone!

Thank you
Thank you
Thank you!!

 

[Ellen]

Date: 10/26/2008 9:24:24 PM
Author: kelpie
You could consider this one. it is a true ideal and will face up larger than your current pick. Plus all the info you could want is there, including video. Besides, the EGL ''G VS1'' could very well be the similiar color/clarity as an AGS ''I SI1'' because the grading standards of AGS are widely regarded to be stricter than EGL. I think I read here you should be prepared for your stone to appraise approximately 2 color and clarity grades lower with an EGL stone than an AGS or GIA certed stone. I''m not sure whether that was said of the USA or Israel office of EGL.

This one gets my vote, that''s a great stone!

 

[stone-cold11]

Looks like Ira''s choice is a good one if you want to go for a graded G VS stone. Really interesting to see why it is rated a good cut by the vendor but it also means you will get a good deal for the stone. :p AGS0 stone is light performance graded and they are one of the stricter labs in clarity and color, so you will definitely be getting what is stated by the cert.

 

[Ellen]

Date: 10/27/2008 7:05:57 AM
Author: Stone-cold11
Looks like Ira''s choice is a good one if you want to go for a graded G VS stone. Really interesting to see why it is rated a good cut by the vendor but it also means you will get a good deal for the stone. :p AGS0 stone is light performance graded and they are one of the stricter labs in clarity and color, so you will definitely be getting what is stated by the cert.

I''m thinking it must be a typo. I just looked at the report, which I didn''t see listed before, it says Ideal.

 

[stone-cold11]

Yap, the report listed it as ideal. But Idjewelry listed it''s cut as Good and their price listing seems to confirm that, it is cheaper than all the GIA 3Ex stones even a GIA Ex, VG, VG stone...

Very interesting. hope the link works Link

 

[Regular Guy]

Something undefined may be whack.

Seems like a vendor, without regard to how they "mislabel," must price based on some logic of proportionality to how each individual diamond was priced when they paid for it. I can't believe they would dis-aggregate that source info when setting pricing...take a fresh start when they post a batch, and set pricing new based on their characterization of a diamond.

 

[stone-cold11]

It looks like an in-house stone, not listed by any other vendor. The only thing I see that is out of the AGA 1A range is the 35 crown angle. but that is only a 1B grade instead of 1A and should not have cause the stone to be graded as a good cut.

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 10/27/2008 7:58:09 AM
Author: Regular Guy
Something undefined may be whack.

Seems like a vendor, without regard to how they 'mislabel,' must price based on some logic of proportionality to how each individual diamond was priced when they paid for it. I can't believe they would dis-aggregate that source info when setting pricing...take a fresh start when they post a batch, and set pricing new based on their characterization of a diamond.

That is an excellent selection RG, probably some sort of misunderstanding concerning ' Good Cut.'