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Green with Envy

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First off you may want to reserve them or put a hold on them before a lurker reads this thread and decides that one or both of the stones would be good for them. Has happened before. Or maybe just by chance someone orders one of them.

OK now I''ll go look at them.
 
reserved.
 
Do you mean the tiny smudges visible at 11 o'clock under 40 power magnification? I wouldn't ever think about those!

#1 Looks very very sharp and crisp to me.

#2 Looks nice.

I'm sure that they'll be stunning.

Let's see if there are any RB experts available and they'll tell you more.

ETA: They look very well matched all the specs are almost identical! Amazing this came up for you now!
 
Would you consider dropping down from VS2 to SI1? With the money saved, you could easily swing the LM settings. I believe that Leon''s are handmade, while the $375 martini settings at WF are not. WF used to have a handmade 3-prong setting, but I couldn''t find it on their website just now, so I don''t know if they stopped offering that one.

Back to the original question... For earrings, I think that eye-clean SI1s are perfect. They are well-priced, and rarely is anyone staring that closely at your ear anyway.

I bought beautiful SI1 stones from WF for my pair of 2.25 cttw earrings (an E and an F). I put them in WF''s platinum w-prong setting with heart prong tips (which were almost $600). I love them, but my dream pair is 3 cttw, so I''m hoping one day to be able to upgrade them (long, long time from now).

Anyway, just a thought if you were still hoping to get Leon''s martini setting...
 
You will not find a more perfect pair.
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Gorgeous!

And VS2 shouldn''t present any problems.
 
Both look beautiful. VS2 G color is my sweet spot.
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I know SI1 is cheaper and probably ok. however- I seriously have now gone to at least 3 B&m''s and have been told these are "SI1" and I can see tiny clouds or tiny tiny things under the table, etc. etc. etc. I do completely trust WF to tell me if eye clean or not- but just playing it safe. $1000 for settings is too much when $2000 can get you started with basic ring setting from LM. I saw in that "show me your studs" thread that SOMEONE had handmade WF settings so I will ask if they can do something thinner.
 
I was just answering one of your other threads and recommended ACA''s because they are easier to match up! But now I see you have already found a terrific pair! I love these! I look at the table size and the diameter. These are very close and well matched.
 
I had WF check inventory coming in next month and told in size range I wanted- more were lower color (H-I) and I don''t want to go lower than G. Sooooo- they don''t have good match right now in SI1.
 
I will tell you that mine are H and they sincerely face up bright and white. ACA''s are really appear white because of the excellent cut. I love the pair you chose, but here is an H pair that is well matched if you wanted to consider an alternative (around $13,000. with wire/pricescope discounts):

http://www.whiteflash.com/diamonds/Compare_Diamonds.aspx?idnos=312252,312253

Mine are VS2 and I have no regrets.
 
Date: 8/10/2007 7:11:01 PM
Author: Skippy123
Both look beautiful. VS2 G color is my sweet spot.
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We both have the same sweet spot
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Beautiful pair! If you are going for well matched, ideal cut, just over 1 ct each, G VS2s, I don''t know how it could get any better.
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I dont know much about earings, but I will say that I dont think you are going to find any that match up better than this, though this is probably more of a match than you need. In regards to total diameter, table size, crown angles, pavilion angle, star, LGF, they are both newline ACA, everything matches within a margin of error of any measurement that would have been taken. I believe they shoudl both have bassically the exact same light performance in addition to the exact match in both color, clarity and ct. I really dont think it gets any more matchy than that
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Just to check- I emailed the pair of H back to Wf to ask their opinion. I was aiming for a bit larger than 2 tcw. I fell in love with 2 .34 tcw at a store so trying to get biggest I can afford without compromising my overly picky taste. If anyone else views link above with the H pair in post --- please look and give me feedback!!! Thanks!
 
There won''t be that much difference in 1.04 and 1.08. I think the key factor is whether you prefer $13,000 or $16,000 for your studs. Or if you want larger, you could wait on some H earrings closer to 1.1 cts. Those H stones are an excellent match and I am sure WF will tell you so. But if the G''s are in your budget, then they are great!
 
Date: 8/11/2007 2:17:10 AM
Author: Green with Envy
Just to check- I emailed the pair of H back to Wf to ask their opinion. I was aiming for a bit larger than 2 tcw. I fell in love with 2 .34 tcw at a store so trying to get biggest I can afford without compromising my overly picky taste. If anyone else views link above with the H pair in post --- please look and give me feedback!!! Thanks!
Another great pair!

And about SI1''s, I have WF studs and one is an SI1 that I haven''t even seen the inclusions with a loupe. Also, one is G, one H, and I cannot tell the difference.
 
HHHmmmm-

I know 1.04 and 1.08 is pretty close- but the actual dimensions of these stones seem different enough to tell maybe?

1.08 G VS2 are 6.67-6.69

1.04 H VS2 are 6.48 -6.50.

I tried on 2 ct in store and 2.21 and 2.31. I liked the size of the ones over 2 ct so this is why 1.08 each seemed to work.

But... to wait for larger pair in H.... what to do? WF said can''t tell difference between color of G vs. H stones.
 
I think that any of the pairs that have been posted would make fabulous earrings. To me H is perfect for studs and that is the color of my own 2.5 carat total weight studs. Those last two are a terrific size and I can't imagine that you would notice that minimal difference in the dimensions. You can always get an opinion from Whiteflash.
 
One more thing, be sure you ask for the wire and Pricescope discounts. That will take 5% off the price of ACA''s.
 
I am having Wf check on those larger H VS2''s. They are still cheaper than the G''s 1.08 and they are 1.2''s! Luckily WF is closed now so I don''t think I need to stress about not yet being reserved.
 
I think that would be a terrific pair!!! Just in case, you might want to try calling and see if you can leave a message on their machine to hold them until you call Monday morning.
 
I spoke to WF this am before they closed so they know i am trying to decide between pairs. I am just waiting for someone to open the safe and say- " By george- she''s got it! The 1.2''s dimensions look great together and they have lots of personality with sparkle sparkle sparkle!"

i spent an hour reading about new line vs classic so i understand how the pairs are different and I hope to just go with the bigger ones. Since they are all VS2- do i need to worry at all about the little clouds right in the center of table? I know someone else said "no" regarding similar issues in G''s- but I am paranoid!

i am also a tad nervous with H instead of G- since really I would want F, but that just doesn''t make financial sense. Cut nut said somewhere that in 1 ct stones- about 50% people can tell difference in color between D and H -I think. Or maybe it was 50/50 between D and G? I better go check again! I want them to be white white white!

I don''t want to get ones and then think a month later I could have found better within the same price range! No buyers remorse possible when such a $$$ purchase!
 
No, you shouldn''t have any worries with VS2. Those photos are magnified, I believe, about 40x. So if you can''t see the inclusions in the diamond photo, it''s very unlikley you''ll see them in the diamond itself! Mine are also the classic H VS2. I just can''t see any color in them at all when I am wearing them. Now be aware that incandescent light in your house can even make an F diamond look like it has color. But if you put them on and go into the natural daylight, I do not think you''d perceive that they were H. But the great thing is, if you ever want something different in the future, WF will allow the full amount you paid toward an upgrade. It just has to cost like a dollar more than the old diamonds. Indecisive people like me LOVE nice trade-in policies!!!
 
I am not sure exactly how it works, but the lighting at 40X mag can mask inclusions--after all, if it was graded as a VS2 or SI1 it has to be visible at 10Xmag, so 40X larger and it absolutely, under proper grading lighting, would have to be visible to any of us here on PS. supposedly the magnification lighting, can go a long way to hide the inclusions, from what strmdr was saying in another thread anyway. Not sure about it all myself though.

However, with a VS2 you shouldn't have to worry, especially from a face up view, and especially not if WF is looking at it for you in addition to the VS2 grade. I have a VS2 with a cloud, and it took me about 3 weeks to actually find it. Now I know where to look and how to find it, but in order to find it you have to hold it at just the right angle or it will disappear in the lighting. And in most lighting it would be totally impossible to find. So, I imagine you are probably ok too.
 
Ok- ok- I have to keep telling myself that I am NOT looking at stones under a microscope ever! VS2''s will be fine!

H should be fine, too! Take a deep breath...
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I get that people really can''t tell difference between new line and classic ACA- but I found one thread about some women who did not think her newline ACA sparkled enough so folks recommended her to return for classic ACA instead. So now I have it stuck in mind that I will be happier with this cut too- and that is the larger pair!
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I think the 1.2 H VS2''s will make magnificent earrings! And like you, I just decided not to look at mine with a loupe! VS2 HAS to be good enough for earrings for sure!!!
 
One the H VS2 has a cloud in middle and I am worried I will see it since you can see no lighht return in little spot near center of idealscope pic. What do ya think?

1.20 H VS2.jpg
 
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