Dan, to be brutally honest this is a diamond forum and we are here to give advice about diamonds. Our job is to help him pick a great stone within the parameters of what he is looking for. He is looking for a 1.5 carat diamond and we are here to help him find it. His relationship is irrelevant to the discussion. If he wanted advice about his relationship he would have asked for it.Date: 9/18/2006 2:29:51 PM
Author: DapperDan
I''ll take your word that you can afford the 1.5 (even though your quest for a diamond started with a budget of 7K max).
You don''t have to justify anything to me. I''m just pointing out that you should beware of a girl who is making demands for luxuries based on an arbitray number like 1.5 carats. And if her friends would be impressed by such a number then you should really question what type of person your girlfriend is. Just because people such as Cehrabehra are caught up in the numbers game as well doesn''t make it sensible to play along.
And Dapper those comments are the types of comments that could help someone in their pursuit of a quality stone for their intended. But, you crossed the line of helpful and offered commentary about the future life Tlow might be headed for and that was just wrong...........Date: 9/18/2006 4:53:53 PM
Author: DapperDan
kcoursolle, to be brutally honest, tlow did not state simply that he is looking for a 1.5 ct. diamond. He said he is trying to decide between 1.3 and 1.5 and would like to stay under 10K but will go over if necessary. He also states that he only wants a 1.5 because that is what his girlfriend wants. Yet his girlfriend has no basis for wanting a 1.5 other than to tell people it is a 1.5.
Therefore, his girlfriend''s motivation for wanting a 1.5 is material to tlow''s decision on whether to dip below a 1.5 in his search. I think tlow could get the best diamond for his money if he explained to his girlfriend that no one would be able to tell a 1.3 from a 1.5.
What a find mrss!!!!Date: 9/18/2006 5:08:12 PM
Author: mrssalvo
tlow,
what type of setting does your gal want? Pearlmans has this 1.5 AGS0 H VS2 on consignment in a gorgeous Michael b setting for 15K. don''t know if you budget included the setting or not but the setting alone retails for almost 8k.
link to ring
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tem: 061PO1 - A perfect condition Michael B 3 sided pave ring set with a 1.50ct diamond. The diamond is a AGS000 VS2 H ideal cut. Cert included. The ring is set with 100 diamonds weighing 1.31ct of E_F VVS quality diamonds. Proceeds will be given to the customers Church. Size 5 3/4
Price: $15,000.00
Mrss!!! I think he WAS looking at this setting!Date: 9/18/2006 5:08:12 PM
Author: mrssalvo
tlow,
what type of setting does your gal want? Pearlmans has this 1.5 AGS0 H VS2 on consignment in a gorgeous Michael b setting for 15K. don''t know if you budget included the setting or not but the setting alone retails for almost 8k.
link to ring
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tem: 061PO1 - A perfect condition Michael B 3 sided pave ring set with a 1.50ct diamond. The diamond is a AGS000 VS2 H ideal cut. Cert included. The ring is set with 100 diamonds weighing 1.31ct of E_F VVS quality diamonds. Proceeds will be given to the customers Church. Size 5 3/4
Price: $15,000.00
Please don''t make assumptions about me or use me to make a point I am not a part of.Date: 9/18/2006 2:29:51 PM
Author: DapperDan
I''ll take your word that you can afford the 1.5 (even though your quest for a diamond started with a budget of 7K max).
You don''t have to justify anything to me. I''m just pointing out that you should beware of a girl who is making demands for luxuries based on an arbitray number like 1.5 carats. And if her friends would be impressed by such a number then you should really question what type of person your girlfriend is. Just because people such as Cehrabehra are caught up in the numbers game as well doesn''t make it sensible to play along.
ITA. I blew my un-discussed budget out of the water and I can assure you my husband still loves me and doesn''t resent me for it LOL He thinks I''m beyond silly but every time he sees me gazing in a goofy trance at that rock I know he thinks it was worth every pennyDate: 9/18/2006 2:41:51 PM
Author: tlow
This brings up and interesting point of what people should and shouldn''t bring up about money. For me, it shouldn''t matter why I want to spend more, I just am willing. Buy maybe other people on this board think otherwise.
Things change in life when it comes to money, ie raises, pay cuts, inheritance, job loss, etc. Who''s business is it to say who spends what or changes their mind about how much they want to spend? Just my 2 cents.
the only real way to save money is to avoid dating and love and marriage and kids etc in the first place!! lol!Date: 9/18/2006 4:20:16 PM
Author: angeline
Hey Dan, maybe you are honestly trying to help tlow and save him some money. But you''re not! Lose the personal attacks on his fiance!
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pffft I quadrupled my budget, I should let you talk to my husband! LOLDate: 9/18/2006 5:57:21 PM
Author: DapperDan
Wow. You have taken this guy who initially wanted to spend $7000 max and now are encouraging him to spend more than double that amount.![]()
Date: 9/18/2006 5:57:21 PM
Author: DapperDan
Wow. You have taken this guy who initially wanted to spend $7000 max and now are encouraging him to spend more than double that amount.![]()
I thought it was a brilliant suggestion, not only because it is perfect in every way, but because it''s a no-brainer in that he doesn''t have to think about it any more LOL Of course if she doesn''t wear a 5.5 ring it could be a problem.... lolDate: 9/18/2006 6:23:42 PM
Author: mrssalvo
that is and incredible deal for that stone and setting. It''s a suggestion, nothing more nothing less, he can take or leave it, people do it hear all the time...
Date: 9/18/2006 6:27:12 PM
Author: Cehrabehra
Date: 9/18/2006 6:23:42 PM
Author: mrssalvo
that is and incredible deal for that stone and setting. It''s a suggestion, nothing more nothing less, he can take or leave it, people do it here all the time...
I thought it was a brilliant suggestion, not only because it is perfect in every way, but because it''s a no-brainer in that he doesn''t have to think about it any more LOL Of course if she doesn''t wear a 5.5 ring it could be a problem.... lol
Date: 9/18/2006 11:48:54 AM
Author:tlow
To start with, I am trying to keep the budget for the stone under $10K. My girlfriend really wants a 1.5 carat centerstone. I would like to keep the grade AGS000 or an equivalent and keep the color at H (preferably G) or lower. (When we go shopping, she notices color a lot more than clarity). I have found some really nice 1.25-1.3carats that are AGS000 f-g si1 for 8500-9500. Everything that I have looked at, if I go up to 1.5 carats and keep the budget down, one of the first things I will sacrafice is cut. My girlfriend has no idea what diamonds costs and how it is not easy just to simply jump up to 1.5.
What do you guys think? First will she noticed a difference between 1.3 and 1.5 (Any comparison pics?) Second, should I get her the bigger stone and sacrafice some cut and maybe clarity? Lastly, I can afford to up my budget, (but I''d rather not) and then just buy her a great 1.5 carat stone for around 13-15K?
There are 4 Cs in the diamond; cut, color, clarity, carat. People tend to put different weights on each factor. Some think carat is the most important and some prefer cut. I believe just like everything else in life, one should try to strike a balance and moderation for each factor is required. Personally I wouldn''t go down on a I1; pique stones will have a problem in resale.The first thing that everyone is going to notice is the size, then the sparkle. I have two white diamonds that were given to me: the first one is a 1.0 carat, D color IF , Ideal cut, given to me by my mother in law on our wedding. The second one I inherited from my mom: it is a 1.8 carat, K color, SI2, ok cut diamond. I''ve never gotten any compliments on the smaller 1.0 ct even though I think it is gorgeous and really sparkles. On the other hand, a lot more people notice my 1.8 carat and complimented on it. Honestly, even though you might have to sacrifice somewhat in cut, if you stay within the very good to excellent range, I doubt if any of her friends will really notice that the diamond sparkles less. Sometime, everything is just a mind game. It is claimed that no one can tell the difference between a D and a H, or between a 1.3 ct and 1.5 ct, or a IF and I1. Following the same logic, I wonder if anyone can tell a AGS000 from a GIA excellent or very good.
Dan, Tlow's not wasting our time... you are... now leave the poor man alone!Date: 9/18/2006 6:52:34 PM
Author: DapperDan
Well, tlow, then you should stop wasting everyone's time because it seems like you've decided to pay 11K-13K for a 1.5 ct. They are a dime a dozen. Go into any respected B&M or use the diamond search function on this website. Have fun, good luck, and please post some pictures!
Date: 9/18/2006 6:38:39 PM
Author: tlow
By the way, that setting is awesome! I would definetly think about that one, however, we went ring shopping again she really wants a halo setting. I have been working with the guys at Quest to get an idea of what to make. Been very happy so far with their service.
In other words, he''d be better off doing EXACTLY what you did. Well .. seems HE doesn''t see things that way, thankfully (IMO)!Date: 9/18/2006 4:53:53 PM
Author: DapperDan
I think tlow could get the best diamond for his money if he explained to his girlfriend that no one would be able to tell a 1.3 from a 1.5.