Opinion Please (newbie)

[ezl]

Can someone post an opinion on this stone? While I''m interested in the value (the cost is $14,797) I''m primarily interested in the *impact* - will this get the ''Wow!'' I''m looking for? Also, looking at the GIA report there are inclusions on the table. At VS2 should I worry about them detracting. Note that my g/f isn''t a connoisseur or one to be impressed by the details of the diamond - it''s not like she''s going to pull out a scope to evaluate the stone. My success will be dictated by the impact out of the box, if you know what I mean. Thanks...

Carat weight: 1.70
Cut: Ideal
Color: G
Clarity: VS2
Depth %: 61.7%
Table %: 58%
Symmetry: Very good
Polish: Very good
Girdle: Medium to slightly thick, faceted
Culet: None
Fluorescence: None
Measurements: 7.61 x 7.65 x 4.71 mm

 

[Ellen]

Hi ezl,

Looks good so far.

Can you get the crown and pavillion angles??

Also, any pics?

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 6/21/2007 8:04:35 AM
Author: Ellen
Hi ezl,

Looks good so far.

Can you get the crown and pavillion angles??

Also, any pics?

Ditto with everything, looks as if it might be promising! Is it with a jeweller or online? Regarding the inclusions, a magnified pic will help but usually a VS even in this size should be ok, but to make sure as there are exceptions, check with the vendor. Also an Idealscope Image would be very useful if available.

 

[Ellen]

Date: 6/21/2007 8:16:36 AM
Author: Lorelei

Ditto with everything, looks as if it might be promising! Is it with a jeweller or online? Regarding the inclusions, a magnified pic will help but usually a VS even in this size should be ok, but to make sure as there are exceptions, check with the vendor. Also an Idealscope Image would be very useful if available.

Yes. I forgot to address this, but Lorelei''s right.

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 6/21/2007 8:22:47 AM
Author: Ellen

Date: 6/21/2007 8:16:36 AM
Author: Lorelei

Ditto with everything, looks as if it might be promising! Is it with a jeweller or online? Regarding the inclusions, a magnified pic will help but usually a VS even in this size should be ok, but to make sure as there are exceptions, check with the vendor. Also an Idealscope Image would be very useful if available.

Yes. I forgot to address this, but Lorelei''s right.

*blush*

 

[chrono]

Yup, we''ll need the crown and pavilion angles to be able to tell you more about the "wow" factor of the diamond.

 

[Ellen]

Date: 6/21/2007 8:31:31 AM
Author: Lorelei

Date: 6/21/2007 8:22:47 AM
Author: Ellen

Yes. I forgot to address this, but Lorelei''s right.

*blush*

 

[ezl]

Thanks for all the feedback - its an online vendor with a return policy so if the inclusions are a problem I''d be able to return it. Re: crown an pavillion angles - couldn''t find them listed, but I included a pic from the GIA report, which I assume has them. I also included the diagram showing the inclusions and a sample pic. Thanks a lot!

 

[ezl]

Realized it''s only one pic per post - this is the inclusion diagram:

 

[ezl]

...and the image...

 

[ezl]

...and from the side, for good measure...

Thanks again for all the feedback - as most of you probably know, it''s *really* easy to agonize over this kind of decision (especially as a first time buyer)...

 

[chrono]

The HCA grade came up as 2.5 ; Worth buying if the price is right with VG for all categories of white light, fire, scintillation and spread.

As for the picture of the diamond, the one you posted is a sample image (as stated in small text at the bottom of the picture). It isn't a picture of the actual stone. Ask the vendor for a real pic. Can the vendor take Idealscope pictures? With the HCA slightly over 2, I would not take the stone without further backup tests like an ASET and IS picture.

 

[Lorelei]

This diamond might be what we call a steep deep with the angles, but an Idealscope image would be useful to see how this diamond handles light - ask the vendor for one if you can.

 

[ezl]

Cool! I just realized through a work perk I get 10% off at the store - that brings the price down to $13,317.30 http://www.pricescope.com/idealbb/images/smilies/1.gif
Insert smilie

 

[ezl]

Re: the image - ahhh! I assumed it was a sample just based on the size, not that it was a different stone. Seems kind of pointless to have a pic of a random rock with the diamond info, no?

Also, I've requested an Idealscope image - will post if I can get one...

 

[Lorelei]

Ezl, some sites have sample images commonly, no worries. Excellent for the Idealscope image, that will help tremendously. Post it if you can get one and we will help you with it.

 

[ezl]

Hey Lorelei - I wasn't worried - it just seems a little silly. Like 'Here's what a diamond looks like in case you've never, ever seen a picture of one one before.' *chuckles to self*

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 6/21/2007 1:08:55 PM
Author: ezl
Hey Lorelei - I wasn''t worried - it just seems a little silly. Like ''Here''s what a diamond looks like in case you''ve never, ever seen a picture of one one before.'' *chuckles to self*

 

[ezl]

Hey Chrono...

"The HCA grade came up as 2.5 ; Worth buying if the price is right with VG for all categories of white light, fire, scintillation and spread."

Where can I find that info (white light, fire, scintillation and spread.). Assuming I need to get it from the vendor what specifically should I ask for? Just the rating for those categories?

 

[Lorelei]

In case Chroni has logged off, here is the link for you - the Holloway Cut Advisor https://www.pricescope.com/cutadviser.asp

Ezl, enter your depth, table, crown angle and pavillion angle into the boxes, hit Go and your results will come up with the scores you want and info.

 

[chrono]

ezl,
I''m not sure if I understand your question. The reason why we all asked for all the #s is so that we can plug it into the HCA calculator. This tool helps us eliminate the badly cut stones; aim for a score under HCA 2 and you''ll most likely have a great looking stone.

Here''s the HCA calculator:
https://www.pricescope.com/cutadviser.asp

 

[neatfreak]

Date: 6/21/2007 2:26:45 PM
Author: ezl
Hey Chrono...


'The HCA grade came up as 2.5 ; Worth buying if the price is right with VG for all categories of white light, fire, scintillation and spread.'


Where can I find that info (white light, fire, scintillation and spread.). Assuming I need to get it from the vendor what specifically should I ask for? Just the rating for those categories?

You need an idealscope image to determine whether there is light leakage. The HCA rated those things for you in terms of your stone already.

 

[chrono]

Date: 6/21/2007 2:35:20 PM
Author: Lorelei
In case Chroni has logged off, here is the link for you - the Holloway Cut Advisor http://www.pricescope.com/cutadviser.asp

Ezl, enter your depth, table, crown angle and pavillion angle into the boxes, your results will come up with the scores you want and info.

I have no life: PS is always running in the background.

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 6/21/2007 2:37:23 PM
Author: Chrono

Date: 6/21/2007 2:35:20 PM
Author: Lorelei
In case Chroni has logged off, here is the link for you - the Holloway Cut Advisor http://www.pricescope.com/cutadviser.asp

Ezl, enter your depth, table, crown angle and pavillion angle into the boxes, your results will come up with the scores you want and info.

I have no life: PS is always running in the background.

Me too!

 

[Ellen]

Date: 6/21/2007 2:38:08 PM
Author: Lorelei

Date: 6/21/2007 2:37:23 PM
Author: Chrono


I have no life: PS is always running in the background.

Me too!

Me 3.

 

[ezl]

Hey Chrono...

Thanks - now that I used the tool I understand your post. I though you were *advising* that I check the fire, brilliance, etc. rating from somewhere and if they were ''very good'' then the stone was worth buying. I didn''t realize you were *giving* me that information...

Duh.

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 6/21/2007 5:02:09 PM
Author: ezl
Hey Chrono...

Thanks - now that I used the tool I understand your post. I though you were *advising* that I check the fire, brilliance, etc. rating from somewhere and if they were ''very good'' then the stone was worth buying. I didn''t realize you were *giving* me that information...

Duh.

In case Chroni has left the building

, you got it!

 

[chrono]

Date: 6/21/2007 5:06:54 PM
Author: Lorelei

Date: 6/21/2007 5:02:09 PM
Author: ezl
Hey Chrono...

Thanks - now that I used the tool I understand your post. I though you were *advising* that I check the fire, brilliance, etc. rating from somewhere and if they were ''very good'' then the stone was worth buying. I didn''t realize you were *giving* me that information...

Duh.

In case Chroni has left the building

, you got it!

Yes, I had left the building but I''m BACK...

ezl,
Yes, that''s what I meant.

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 6/22/2007 8:09:25 AM
Author: Chrono

Date: 6/21/2007 5:06:54 PM
Author: Lorelei

Date: 6/21/2007 5:02:09 PM
Author: ezl
Hey Chrono...

Thanks - now that I used the tool I understand your post. I though you were *advising* that I check the fire, brilliance, etc. rating from somewhere and if they were ''very good'' then the stone was worth buying. I didn''t realize you were *giving* me that information...

Duh.

In case Chroni has left the building

, you got it!

Yes, I had left the building but I''m BACK...

ezl,
Yes, that''s what I meant.

Good morning to you!