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2babycarrots

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Hi-
I need an opinion on this cushion. No pictures yet but will post if I can get ahold of some!

It''s GIA cert. and I''m okay with it being a little long--- I''m thinking it should be 8x8 or 7x7 but this is 8x7. I''ve seen some cushions that are long like this and I thought they looked pretty good. Please correct me if I am wrong. If you think it will look wacky, PLEASE tell me. I appreciate your help!

Weight 1.62

Shape & Cut Cushion
Measurements 8.06x7.13x3.49

Proportions
Depth 49
Table 63
Girdle M-VTK
Culet N

Finish
Polish G
Symmetry G

Clarity Grade VS2

Color Grade H

Fluorescence S
 
Date: 11/21/2008 11:27:15 AM
Author:2babycarrots
Hi-
I need an opinion on this cushion. No pictures yet but will post if I can get ahold of some!

It''s GIA cert. and I''m okay with it being a little long--- I''m thinking it should be 8x8 or 7x7 but this is 8x7. I''ve seen some cushions that are long like this and I thought they looked pretty good. Please correct me if I am wrong. If you think it will look wacky, PLEASE tell me. I appreciate your help!

Weight 1.62

Shape & Cut Cushion
Measurements 8.06x7.13x3.49

Proportions
Depth 49
Table 63
Girdle M-VTK
Culet N

Finish
Polish G
Symmetry G

Clarity Grade VS2

Color Grade H

Fluorescence S
Numbers dont say a lot I am afraid...

Could be gorgeous or not...

Ratio..., is a matter of taste!
 
I''m worried about the fluorescence. Should I be?
 
Date: 11/21/2008 11:45:07 AM
Author: 2babycarrots
I'm worried about the fluorescence. Should I be?
No, rarely strong blue if that is what the S means can make a diamond look hazy in some lights, but you would need to check with the vendor, this effect is rare. Check it is blue fluorescence also.
 
isnt it kind of shallow?
 
Date: 11/21/2008 11:48:35 AM
Author: bgray
isnt it kind of shallow?
Yes..., but it doesnt have to mean negative....
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Definitely not based on the numbers only....

A picture would help....
 
Date: 11/21/2008 11:54:44 AM
Author: DiaGem

Date: 11/21/2008 11:48:35 AM
Author: bgray
isnt it kind of shallow?
Yes..., but it doesnt have to mean negative....
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Definitely not based on the numbers only....

A picture would help....
dia gem--can you tell me about the diamond in your avatar. i have always wanted a stone in that shape
 
The dealer said that it has a blue fluoro. I''ll try to get a picture.
 
Date: 11/21/2008 12:04:07 PM
Author: 2babycarrots
The dealer said that it has a blue fluoro. I''ll try to get a picture.
Pics are essential to be able to judge these shapes BC, so ask him if he can provide some.
 
I''m getting the pictures soon--- will post them asap!

Thanks again for your help!
 
Date: 11/21/2008 3:36:24 PM
Author: 2babycarrots
I''m getting the pictures soon--- will post them asap!

Thanks again for your help!
Most welcome!
 
Date: 11/21/2008 11:55:55 AM
Author: bgray

Date: 11/21/2008 11:54:44 AM
Author: DiaGem


Date: 11/21/2008 11:48:35 AM
Author: bgray
isnt it kind of shallow?
Yes..., but it doesnt have to mean negative....
2.gif


Definitely not based on the numbers only....

A picture would help....
dia gem--can you tell me about the diamond in your avatar. i have always wanted a stone in that shape
Its an octagonal step-cut Diamond...
 
DiaGem: Do you own this stone? If so -how large is it and is it vintage? Where would you find such a stone? Thanks in advance?
 
Numbers are tough to judge by but the depth would be concerning to be. Need to look at it to be sure it isnt losing too much light. You sure you dont have the depth and table reversed?
 
I copied the stats from the info the seller listed. They might have mixed up the numbers. I have to wait until Monday for more pictures and info which is very difficult since patience is not my virtue.
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It''s so confusing and difficult making the right diamond choice. I have large fingers and need a large diamond to cover some space there. My budget is really for a small diamond but I am trying to stretch it by lowering my color and clarity choices. Hopefully I will be able to sort through all of this and find a good size diamond within my budget!
 
Date: 11/22/2008 2:13:25 PM
Author: 2babycarrots
I copied the stats from the info the seller listed. They might have mixed up the numbers. I have to wait until Monday for more pictures and info which is very difficult since patience is not my virtue.
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It''s so confusing and difficult making the right diamond choice. I have large fingers and need a large diamond to cover some space there. My budget is really for a small diamond but I am trying to stretch it by lowering my color and clarity choices. Hopefully I will be able to sort through all of this and find a good size diamond within my budget!

The numbers might very well be right...it''ll all be in the pictures whether it''s a nice stone or not.
 
Date: 11/22/2008 2:15:32 PM
Author: neatfreak

Date: 11/22/2008 2:13:25 PM
Author: 2babycarrots
I copied the stats from the info the seller listed. They might have mixed up the numbers. I have to wait until Monday for more pictures and info which is very difficult since patience is not my virtue.
32.gif



It''s so confusing and difficult making the right diamond choice. I have large fingers and need a large diamond to cover some space there. My budget is really for a small diamond but I am trying to stretch it by lowering my color and clarity choices. Hopefully I will be able to sort through all of this and find a good size diamond within my budget!

The numbers might very well be right...it''ll all be in the pictures whether it''s a nice stone or not.
Based on the measurements that were supplied..., the numbers are correct...
 
Date: 11/21/2008 11:54:44 AM
Author: DiaGem
Date: 11/21/2008 11:48:35 AM

Author: bgray

isnt it kind of shallow?
Yes..., but it doesnt have to mean negative....
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I agree with your point that it is possible, and a 2+ carat spread for 1.5 carat price is certainly not a negative, but what are the odds that it looks good? Buying a cushion is tough enough even with more typical proportions. Someone with not so much experience may be lured by the spread into spending a fair amount of money for shipping appraisals settings etc. before seeing what this really is. I'd have to be working with a trusted seller with a fair amount of cushion experience and see convincing evidence before investing any time and money at all in a cushion with depth in the 40s. I'm all for due diligence and the unusual proportions suggest more diligence than normal.
 
Date: 11/22/2008 2:13:25 PM
Author: 2babycarrots
I copied the stats from the info the seller listed. They might have mixed up the numbers. I have to wait until Monday for more pictures and info which is very difficult since patience is not my virtue.
32.gif


It''s so confusing and difficult making the right diamond choice. I have large fingers and need a large diamond to cover some space there. My budget is really for a small diamond but I am trying to stretch it by lowering my color and clarity choices. Hopefully I will be able to sort through all of this and find a good size diamond within my budget!
I think you are making a huge mistake trying to buy a shallow stone for more spread. Should you stick to optimal depth stones absolutely............Buy a top quality stone and put it in a fabulous setting. Like a one carat ideal cut round in a double halo or a 1.5 carat cushion in a floating halo.............You could do a one to 1.5 carat EC in a double bezel
 
Date: 11/23/2008 9:44:21 AM
Author: bgray
Date: 11/22/2008 2:13:25 PM

Author: 2babycarrots

I copied the stats from the info the seller listed. They might have mixed up the numbers. I have to wait until Monday for more pictures and info which is very difficult since patience is not my virtue.
32.gif



It's so confusing and difficult making the right diamond choice. I have large fingers and need a large diamond to cover some space there. My budget is really for a small diamond but I am trying to stretch it by lowering my color and clarity choices. Hopefully I will be able to sort through all of this and find a good size diamond within my budget!
I think you are making a huge mistake trying to buy a shallow stone for more spread. Should you stick to optimal depth stones absolutely............Buy a top quality stone and put it in a fabulous setting. Like a one carat ideal cut round in a double halo or a 1.5 carat cushion in a floating halo.............You could do a one to 1.5 carat EC in a double bezel

I have to disagree. If the OP can get pictures or an ASET of this stone and her priority is size, it should absolutely be considered. There's really no loss except a bit of time. If it's horrid she can pass, but on the off chance it's nice there is no reason not to consider it.

A halo is just not the same thing IMO. It might deceive some people from afar into thinking the stone is bigger, but it just isn't the same thing.
 
Date: 11/23/2008 9:56:52 AM
Author: neatfreak




Date: 11/23/2008 9:44:21 AM
Author: bgray




Date: 11/22/2008 2:13:25 PM

Author: 2babycarrots

I copied the stats from the info the seller listed. They might have mixed up the numbers. I have to wait until Monday for more pictures and info which is very difficult since patience is not my virtue.
32.gif



It's so confusing and difficult making the right diamond choice. I have large fingers and need a large diamond to cover some space there. My budget is really for a small diamond but I am trying to stretch it by lowering my color and clarity choices. Hopefully I will be able to sort through all of this and find a good size diamond within my budget!
I think you are making a huge mistake trying to buy a shallow stone for more spread. Should you stick to optimal depth stones absolutely............Buy a top quality stone and put it in a fabulous setting. Like a one carat ideal cut round in a double halo or a 1.5 carat cushion in a floating halo.............You could do a one to 1.5 carat EC in a double bezel

I have to disagree. If the OP can get pictures or an ASET of this stone and her priority is size, it should absolutely be considered. There's really no loss except a bit of time. If it's horrid she can pass, but on the off chance it's nice there is no reason not to consider it.

A halo is just not the same thing IMO. It might deceive some people from afar into thinking the stone is bigger, but it just isn't the same thing.
The stone could be great-- you are right. I think its not likely to look much different than a rose cut. The OP has posted a number of unusually proportioned stones that presumably will offer more face up size. While these stones are cheaper than better cut stones of a similar weight they are proportionally vastly overpriced and are thus a much poorer investment. If this stone is appropriately priced for what it is and it is attractive then great ! Its also much harder to sell or trade these type of stones--
 
Date: 11/23/2008 6:53:01 AM
Author: elmo

Date: 11/21/2008 11:54:44 AM
Author: DiaGem

Date: 11/21/2008 11:48:35 AM

Author: bgray

isnt it kind of shallow?
Yes..., but it doesnt have to mean negative....
2.gif
I agree with your point that it is possible, and a 2+ carat spread for 1.5 carat price is certainly not a negative, but what are the odds that it looks good? Buying a cushion is tough enough even with more typical proportions. Someone with not so much experience may be lured by the spread into spending a fair amount of money for shipping appraisals settings etc. before seeing what this really is. I''d have to be working with a trusted seller with a fair amount of cushion experience and see convincing evidence before investing any time and money at all in a cushion with depth in the 40s. I''m all for due diligence and the unusual proportions suggest more diligence than normal.
True!!!

Thats why I see the shallow ones fall into the same statistics...
It doesnt matter if its shallow or typical proportioned..., odds are still against you finding a cushion cut in the right fashion
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But I must admit that based on my experience..., cutters who decide to fashion a Cushion cut out shallow rough material vs. other more suitable shapes like pears etc, etc..., usually know their skill
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It would be easier to cut other shapes...
 
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