Online Shopping: how can you tell it faces up white

[ShoppingForARing]

I'm now looking at color J diamonds and was wondering via online if I can tell if it faces up white?

I know mara found a J diamond that faced up white really well and she also found it online. how does one know looking at specs if it would face up white?

 

[HariSeldon]

Online shopping is great but I think somethings you just have to see in person to make a basis for a decision esp one as pricey as a diamond. And judging a color is one of them

 

[ShoppingForARing]

thank you

 

[Miranda]

I don''t have a J stone, but I have pciked up a few things here. First off, if you are looking at a round go for an ideal cut. If you are looking at a fancy you may very well see some warmth. Warmth is defined different ways by different people. Find what is acceptable to you. Second, if you find a good vendor they will be honest with you about the color. And last, buy somewhere with a good return policy so you can easily return the stone if has too much color for you.

A trusted appraiser can be helpful in this arena. The vendor can ship the stone directly to an appraiser where you can go to view the stone in person without buying the stone.

 

[justjulia]

I guess one of my questions for you would be why J?
Are you trying to get a larger stone? If you know about Mara''s ring, then you are probably familiar with many other threads here, such as how diamond shape affects the appearance of size. Are you set on round? If you go with another shape, like pear, oval, or marquis, your diamond will appear larger for the same weight as its equal in round. A better cut diamond will always offer better light return and affect the appearance by giving the allusion of better spread. Some more poorly cut diamonds will be bottom heavy with poor light return--making it look smaller. Step cuts tend to look slightly smaller with these generally being cut deeper. Some "off white" or "winter white" stones are quite lovely--not yellow, just linen white-I had a K that was beautiful this way. I would call the vender and ask them to guide and advise you (i.e., describe a stone as they eye it), given your concerns. Keep in mind, no matter how excellent the cut, a J will still not ever exactly mimic a colorless rock. It will nevertheless be a potentially wonderful stone as all stones have their own personality. Sometimes a little natural blue flourescence helps mask color--ask your vendor about this.

 

[ShoppingForARing]

Date: 8/28/2008 9:19:02 PM
Author: justjulia
I guess one of my questions for you would be why J?

Are you trying to get a larger stone? If you know about Mara's ring, then you are probably familiar with many other threads here, such as how diamond shape affects the appearance of size. Are you set on round? If you go with another shape, like pear, oval, or marquis, your diamond will appear larger for the same weight as its equal in round. A better cut diamond will always offer better light return and affect the appearance by giving the allusion of better spread. Some more poorly cut diamonds will be bottom heavy with poor light return--making it look smaller. Step cuts tend to look slightly smaller with these generally being cut deeper. Some 'off white' or 'winter white' stones are quite lovely--not yellow, just linen white-I had a K that was beautiful this way. I would call the vender and ask them to guide and advise you (i.e., describe a stone as they eye it), given your concerns. Keep in mind, no matter how excellent the cut, a J will still not ever exactly mimic a colorless rock. It will nevertheless be a potentially wonderful stone as all stones have their own personality. Sometimes a little natural blue flourescence helps mask color--ask your vendor about this.

`this appears to be well cut and has a great ideal scope image.. I'm still new so this is what i think. I would like yours and other expert opinions

to answer your question, I am sacrificing the better color grade to get a larger stone hoping to find a diamond in a platinum setting appear whiter.


http://www.whiteflash.com/hearts_arrows/A-Cut-Above-H-A-cut-diamond-58927.htm

 

[LGK]

Well, I'd say an ACA would be a great choice as far as a whiter-appearing J.

I'd think you could easily drop the clarity though, to either get an even larger stone or a whiter color grade. If your priority (after cut) is to try to maximize size, VS1 is probably a bit of overkill- most SI1s would be the same to the naked eye (eyeclean, that is) and some SI2s too. I'm sure WF would be totally honest about eyecleanliness. (Though of course make sure you're both on the same page about it- what distance and if you can see any inclusions from the bottom/side etc.)

I'd go and look at some Hearts on Fire or other ideal cut (like AGS0) J color diamonds in the general size you're shopping for though. Color is a very subjective thing. Personally, I'd take an ACA J in a heartbeat to get a larger stone. However, I'd drop the clarity before the color though. (OK, I'd probably be looking for an eyeclean SI2 J or K, but that's just me!) You can see color but not the difference between an eyeclean SI2 or a VS1.

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 8/29/2008 3:26:09 AM
Author: LittleGreyKitten
Well, I'd say an ACA would be a great choice as far as a whiter-appearing J.

I'd think you could easily drop the clarity though, to either get an even larger stone or a whiter color grade. If your priority (after cut) is to try to maximize size, VS1 is probably a bit of overkill- most SI1s would be the same to the naked eye (eyeclean, that is) and some SI2s too. I'm sure WF would be totally honest about eyecleanliness. (Though of course make sure you're both on the same page about it- what distance and if you can see any inclusions from the bottom/side etc.)

I'd go and look at some Hearts on Fire or other ideal cut (like AGS0) J color diamonds in the general size you're shopping for though. Color is a very subjective thing. Personally, I'd take an ACA J in a heartbeat to get a larger stone. However, I'd drop the clarity before the color though. (OK, I'd probably be looking for an eyeclean SI2 J or K, but that's just me!) You can see color but not the difference between an eyeclean SI2 or a VS1.

Ditto - the ACA you are considering is gorgeous, make sure you reserve it if you are seriously considering it. As to the J colour, WF will be able to describe how well it faces up to you. A fabulous cut such as the ACA will help any colour grade face up to it's best advantage.

 

[HariSeldon]

Date: 8/29/2008 3:26:09 AM
Author: LittleGreyKitten
Well, I''d say an ACA would be a great choice as far as a whiter-appearing J.

I''d think you could easily drop the clarity though, to either get an even larger stone or a whiter color grade. If your priority (after cut) is to try to maximize size, VS1 is probably a bit of overkill- most SI1s would be the same to the naked eye (eyeclean, that is) and some SI2s too. I''m sure WF would be totally honest about eyecleanliness. (Though of course make sure you''re both on the same page about it- what distance and if you can see any inclusions from the bottom/side etc.)

I''d go and look at some Hearts on Fire or other ideal cut (like AGS0) J color diamonds in the general size you''re shopping for though. Color is a very subjective thing. Personally, I''d take an ACA J in a heartbeat to get a larger stone. However, I''d drop the clarity before the color though. (OK, I''d probably be looking for an eyeclean SI2 J or K, but that''s just me!) You can see color but not the difference between an eyeclean SI2 or a VS1.

ShoppingForARing indicated in a previous post that, in her culture, inclusions are bad luck and therefore wanted to go pretty high in clarity. Judging from her other posts, I''d say theyve already come down a lot in clarity. They were originally looking at VVS stones.

 

[stone_seeker]

Hard to judge round color face up. In cushsions and other fancies it will be easier to tell. If you are looking at rounds, an excellent/ideal cut round J will face up more like an H.

 

[risingsun]

I think you really need to see it in person to decide if the J is right for you. Some people are more sensitive to color than others.