One last question about a princess.....help!!!

[seanp3ga]

First, let me say thank you to all who have given advice and answered my earlier posts.....

Ok, so my search is down to two choices:

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/4756/

My other choice is a GIA certified, 1.23 ct, G color, VS1 clarity (personally verified eye clean), with Very good polish and symmetry.

I know everyone usually wants all the data to compare the two choices, but what I''m basically having to decide between is an I color stone with GEMEX report that is off the charts, AGS Ideal grades in cut, polish, and symmetry.....versus a stone that is two color grades higher (G). I can probably get the GIA data if really needed to get good advice.

I know the GOG diamond will face up white, and the only way I''d be able to tell is if it side by side with a color higher on the scale or if it were face down against a white background.....but once it is set, how would that even be possible?

Any advise will be helpful. Thank you!

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 8/12/2008 3:33:51 PM
Author:seanp3ga
First, let me say thank you to all who have given advice and answered my earlier posts.....

Ok, so my search is down to two choices:

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/4756/

My other choice is a GIA certified, 1.23 ct, G color, VS1 clarity (personally verified eye clean), with Very good polish and symmetry.

I know everyone usually wants all the data to compare the two choices, but what I''m basically having to decide between is an I color stone with GEMEX report that is off the charts, AGS Ideal grades in cut, polish, and symmetry.....versus a stone that is two color grades higher (G). I can probably get the GIA data if really needed to get good advice.

I know the GOG diamond will face up white, and the only way I''d be able to tell is if it side by side with a color higher on the scale or if it were face down against a white background.....but once it is set, how would that even be possible?

Any advise will be helpful. Thank you!

Well we know the GOG diamond is of excellent cut quality, the GIA is an unknown quantity to a certain extent...I take it you have actually seen the GIA stone? The I Princess should face up beautifully, what you could do is contact Jon and ask him to set up some comparison pics or maybe even a video which might help your decision.

 

[MaxPow3r]

I was weary about purchasing an I color just like you, however I just purchased an I color, AGS000 princess cut diamond. I saw it first hand and compared it to a G color that was also AGS000 and I honestly couldn't tell a difference, they both faced up very white. I did a blind pick and actually chose the I color diamond too.

 

[seanp3ga]

Date: 8/12/2008 3:59:35 PM
Author: Lorelei

Date: 8/12/2008 3:33:51 PM
Author:seanp3ga
First, let me say thank you to all who have given advice and answered my earlier posts.....

Ok, so my search is down to two choices:

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/4756/

My other choice is a GIA certified, 1.23 ct, G color, VS1 clarity (personally verified eye clean), with Very good polish and symmetry.

I know everyone usually wants all the data to compare the two choices, but what I''m basically having to decide between is an I color stone with GEMEX report that is off the charts, AGS Ideal grades in cut, polish, and symmetry.....versus a stone that is two color grades higher (G). I can probably get the GIA data if really needed to get good advice.

I know the GOG diamond will face up white, and the only way I''d be able to tell is if it side by side with a color higher on the scale or if it were face down against a white background.....but once it is set, how would that even be possible?

Any advise will be helpful. Thank you!

Well we know the GOG diamond is of excellent cut quality, the GIA is an unknown quantity to a certain extent...I take it you have actually seen the GIA stone? The I Princess should face up beautifully, what you could do is contact Jon and ask him to set up some comparison pics or maybe even a video which might help your decision.

Yes, I did see the GIA stone, and it looked very nice, and compared it to a larger J color stone, and I could see the difference. But obviously the GOG stone has a higher cut quality, and the BrillianceScope is off the charts, which my contact at GOG said is very rare for a princess. I guess I just need to get my mind around the difference between G and I in color. Outside of that, I think the GOG diamond looks awesome from the photos.

 

[seanp3ga]

Date: 8/12/2008 4:00:03 PM
Author: MaxPow3r
I was weary about purchasing an I color just like you, however I just purchased an I color, AGS000 princess cut diamond. I saw it first hand and compared it to a G color that was also AGS000 and I honestly couldn''t tell a difference, they both faced up very white. I did a blind pick and actually chose the I color diamond too.

Wow....so you actually compared two stones of equal cut and couldn''t really tell a difference? That makes me feel a little better. I guess I just need to go and do the same thing to set my mind at ease. Thanks for sharing your experience!

 

[jstarfireb]

I color can really be a great deal! There''s a substantial price jump up from I to H. I have an AGS000 I princess (an ACA from WF), and I couldn''t tell the difference side by side with my future SIL''s F princess.

 

[seanp3ga]

Date: 8/12/2008 8:53:09 PM
Author: jstarfireb
I color can really be a great deal! There''s a substantial price jump up from I to H. I have an AGS000 I princess (an ACA from WF), and I couldn''t tell the difference side by side with my future SIL''s F princess.

Thanks jstar. The engineer in me is struggling with choice. I agree that an I can be a great diamond, especially when it is well cut, like the one I''m looking at or an ACA. I had viewed an I rated stone in person before (that I had not mentioned in this post) and it looked perfectly white to me, but I had nothing to compare it to, and it had a cert by a lab no one had ever heard of. I have seen some J colors, and I can see the difference in a J versus an I or anything above that. I will have the GIA certification on the G colored stone in the morning, so I will post that to see what everyone thinks.

 

[jstarfireb]

Date: 8/12/2008 9:10:39 PM
Author: seanp3ga

Date: 8/12/2008 8:53:09 PM

Author: jstarfireb

I color can really be a great deal! There''s a substantial price jump up from I to H. I have an AGS000 I princess (an ACA from WF), and I couldn''t tell the difference side by side with my future SIL''s F princess.

Thanks jstar. The engineer in me is struggling with choice. I agree that an I can be a great diamond, especially when it is well cut, like the one I''m looking at or an ACA. I had viewed an I rated stone in person before (that I had not mentioned in this post) and it looked perfectly white to me, but I had nothing to compare it to, and it had a cert by a lab no one had ever heard of. I have seen some J colors, and I can see the difference in a J versus an I or anything above that. I will have the GIA certification on the G colored stone in the morning, so I will post that to see what everyone thinks.

You may be more color sensitive than I am, but it''s also kind of logarithmic (or exponential? Not sure which is the right term), meaning that the difference between J-K is greater than I-J, which is greater than H-I, etc. The differences in color get wider as you go lower down the scale.

In addition to the GIA cert, I''d also ask for IS/ASET images and a detailed photo if possible. My guess is that the GIA diamond isn''t cut to AGS000 standards like the I diamond, and I would definitely take an ideal cut I over a mediocre cut G any day.

 

[seanp3ga]

Date: 8/12/2008 9:41:40 PM
Author: jstarfireb

Date: 8/12/2008 9:10:39 PM
Author: seanp3ga

Date: 8/12/2008 8:53:09 PM

Author: jstarfireb

I color can really be a great deal! There''s a substantial price jump up from I to H. I have an AGS000 I princess (an ACA from WF), and I couldn''t tell the difference side by side with my future SIL''s F princess.

Thanks jstar. The engineer in me is struggling with choice. I agree that an I can be a great diamond, especially when it is well cut, like the one I''m looking at or an ACA. I had viewed an I rated stone in person before (that I had not mentioned in this post) and it looked perfectly white to me, but I had nothing to compare it to, and it had a cert by a lab no one had ever heard of. I have seen some J colors, and I can see the difference in a J versus an I or anything above that. I will have the GIA certification on the G colored stone in the morning, so I will post that to see what everyone thinks.

You may be more color sensitive than I am, but it''s also kind of logarithmic (or exponential? Not sure which is the right term), meaning that the difference between J-K is greater than I-J, which is greater than H-I, etc. The differences in color get wider as you go lower down the scale.

In addition to the GIA cert, I''d also ask for IS/ASET images and a detailed photo if possible. My guess is that the GIA diamond isn''t cut to AGS000 standards like the I diamond, and I would definitely take an ideal cut I over a mediocre cut G any day.

I definitely agree. I had asked before about ASET images on the G colored stones, and the person I was dealing with had not heard of an IdealScope or ASET scope, they maintained that they only deal with quality stones, and to some degree I believe that, but I''m also a lot smarter than I was before I found PS.

One other question, I read another thread here that warned against a table % below 62, but the stone I''m interested in is 58.7%, and rated Ideal. Anyone care to comment on that as well?

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 8/12/2008 9:53:13 PM
Author: seanp3ga

One other question, I read another thread here that warned against a table % below 62, but the stone I''m interested in is 58.7%, and rated Ideal. Anyone care to comment on that as well?

I don''t see why that would be a problem, especially with an AGS0 Princess, can you link the thread or post where that was said please?

 

[seanp3ga]

Date: 8/13/2008 5:41:02 AM
Author: Lorelei

Date: 8/12/2008 9:53:13 PM
Author: seanp3ga

One other question, I read another thread here that warned against a table % below 62, but the stone I''m interested in is 58.7%, and rated Ideal. Anyone care to comment on that as well?

I don''t see why that would be a problem, especially with an AGS0 Princess, can you link the thread or post where that was said please?

Lorelei - I wish I could....I was reading a thread about another topic but someone had commented about table % in that thread....but I''ve read so many I can''t remember where it was, and I can''t find it, but I will keep trying, because I''m curious.

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 8/13/2008 3:16:20 PM
Author: seanp3ga

Date: 8/13/2008 5:41:02 AM
Author: Lorelei

Date: 8/12/2008 9:53:13 PM
Author: seanp3ga

One other question, I read another thread here that warned against a table % below 62, but the stone I''m interested in is 58.7%, and rated Ideal. Anyone care to comment on that as well?

I don''t see why that would be a problem, especially with an AGS0 Princess, can you link the thread or post where that was said please?

Lorelei - I wish I could....I was reading a thread about another topic but someone had commented about table % in that thread....but I''ve read so many I can''t remember where it was, and I can''t find it, but I will keep trying, because I''m curious.

No worries, I would be curious to read it also if you could dig it up!