OMG! That missing sub!

[kenny]

June 22, 2023 - Missing Titanic sub crew killed after 'catastrophic implosion'

The Titanic-bound submersible that went missing on Sunday with five people on board suffered a "catastrophic implosion," killing everyone on board, officials said Thursday.

www.cnn.com

Dang, how sad.
If he survives (which now looks unlikely) CEO of OceanGate Stockton Rush will be in a world of trouble ... that is if he his four paying customers aren't doomed.
All five are crammed like sardines into a tiny can that doesn't even have room for seats.






Four 1-percenters each paid Rush $250,000 for passage to a freezing cold watery Hell, and now with oxygen running out they seem likely join the other 1,500+ Titanic victims.

The wreck of the Titanic rests at a depth near 13,000 feet, or 2.5 miles.
IIRC the world has ten submersibles capable of venturing that deep, which requires a vessel that can withstand mind-boggling water pressure of over 6,500 psi.

Nine of those ten submersibles were designed and built following the industry's rigid safety regulations and reviewed by independent experts.
Rush blew off all that safety nonsense and just "innovated", using off the shelf cheap stuff - like modifying an X-Box game controller to pilot his vessel.

This wouldn't be as tragic if he was the only one down there, but four others paid him big bucks to see the Titanic in person.
So, Darwin's probably taking out Rush, and four daredevil risk takers who should have been more skeptical and have done more homework.

Penny for your thoughts.

 

[dk168]

This may sound very cold and non-compassionate, however, they knew the risks involved before they embarked on this trip.

No doubt some form of indemnity agreement would be in place, and each person should have taken adequate life insurance for such a trip to cover themselves.

I do not like to engage in extremely dangerous events/trips with unproven or limited safety records when failures can result in certain death, such as trips to space and deep sea diving etc...

I wish they could be found alive, however, my heart sank when I first heard the news as I believed their chances of survival were very remote.

DK

 

[Dandi]

Speaking of skeptical, another British gent had put a deposit down on the tour, only to withdraw due to safety concerns and the belief the company was cutting corners. This is the stuff of nightmares.

 

[kenny]

From "America's best news source", The Onion.




BOSTON, MA—Ramping up search and rescue efforts to locate the missing OceanGate tourist vessel, the U.S. Coast Guard told reporters Tuesday they sent out another submersible full of billionaires after the first one. “We’ve enlisted another team of wealthy explorers to take part in a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to travel the depths of the ocean looking for their fellow billionaires,” said Rear Admiral Philip Ballard, a commander of the U.S. Coast Guard, adding that these rich tourists, familiar with how the lost billionaires think, were the best chance for finding the Titan.

“These six new affluent explorers jumped at the chance to get into a smaller submersible equipped with even less oxygen to do what no one else has done: rescue other rich people who spent exorbitant amounts of money to participate in dangerous escapades for kicks.

The second submersible will also feature no toilet and a more basic controller that can only make the vessel move left and right as incentive for the wealthy, thrill-seeking travelers.” At press time, the U.S. Coast Guard was reportedly regretting not collecting the $250,000 fees from the billionaires on the search mission after losing contact with their submersible.

 

[Tartansparkles]

I feel for the father and son who are onboard and will likely die together. I don't even want to imagine how that plays out.

 

[MissGotRocks]

It truly is a tragedy but what were any of them thinking? A knock off Playstation video control for steering? We have seen pictures and video of the Titanic on the ocean floor. What would have been accomplished about their trip other than to look at some of the wreckage through a small port hole? Just to say you had done so? For 250k? I had hoped against hope that they could somehow be found and rescued but I guess it just wasn't to be. It would just not be my jam to take on adventure such as that. Every time they show that sub on the news, I begin to feel like I can't breathe. So claustrophobic was that little metal bean - I just can't imagine!

 

[Niel]

so after watching this it seems to me the hull was breached.

and yea the narrative oh we only care because they’re rich is out there but I don’t think it’s just that. The concept of being trapped under water in pitch black with your child waiting to die I think is quite possibly most people’s worst nightmare. I think that’s probably why this story so so compelling. Plus obviously our gross fascination with the titanic.

if you were down there with your child facing the likelihood of suffocating to death- the real ethical question comes up of would you try to take out the Ceo for 1/5th more of the oxygen for your child. When you’re dying from their malfeasance? a thought that definitively would cross my mind.
but this looks very bleak, and I hope if it got them it was quick and not agonizing.

 

[missy]

What a horrible horrible way to die

 

[dk168]

I hope they could be rescued in time, however, the possibility of them being found alive is fading fast!

DK

 

[Rfisher]

I think
“they died doing what they loved“ said with a smile
applies here.

 

[autumngems]

I do not believe they will be found alive, if at all. I don't understand how someone with common sense would even dare knowing all this is not an approved vessel and things like the video game controller for controls. Who is this dumb?
I read another place a couple paid to go on a trip and have not been yet and the company won't return their money.

 

[telephone89]

I read some pretty glib tweets about it like "woke up and found out a bunch of billionaires are at the bottom of the ocean... my monday is great, hows yours going" or something. But its also quite astounding that at the same time as this, a boat with 500 migrants went missing and no one GAF. But 5 people are getting international attention and also millions/billions spent on their rescue? It's very very clear what's important to people. Money talks.

I don't really have any thoughts on this. Do I wish that these 5 people DIDN'T sign up for something so stupid, unsafe and insane? Sure. But am I sad that a few dumbass billionaires are gone? Not really.

 

[Madam Bijoux]

The ego of a businessman doomed the Titanic. I'm afraid that the egos of the businesspeople at OceanGate also doomed this submersible. They will never learn.

 

[Lookinagain]

I think it is horribly sad and must be very frightening. Yes, they knew the risks, but I'm guessing none of them thought the worst would happen. I doubt you'd take your child along if you really believed that the risk was real.
And of course the capsized boat with migrants is also a tragedy since so many have died, many bodies not yet recovered and so few rescued. I don't think we need to belittle one tragedy or another. Both are tragic.

 

[autumngems]

They found debris, it has imploded, they found the landing frame and rear cover so far

 

[yssie]

I read some pretty glib tweets about it like "woke up and found out a bunch of billionaires are at the bottom of the ocean... my monday is great, hows yours going" or something. But its also quite astounding that at the same time as this, a boat with 500 migrants went missing and no one GAF. But 5 people are getting international attention and also millions/billions spent on their rescue? It's very very clear what's important to people. Money talks.

I don't really have any thoughts on this. Do I wish that these 5 people DIDN'T sign up for something so stupid, unsafe and insane? Sure. But am I sad that a few dumbass billionaires are gone? Not really.

+100.
Race, class, and money.
Again.

 

[pearlsngems]

Death from implosion would be immediate. They wouldn't even know what hit them.

 

[RMOO]

I have to admit that over the last 4 days I had to kind-of stop listening to the story, even though I was hoping that the snippets I did hear would be hopeful, because I could only imagine the fear one would have waiting and hoping for rescue. For their sake, I hope the implosion was at the time of the loss of communication, two hours after launch, so that they didn't suffer the last couple of days.

 

[dk168]

Death from implosion would be immediate. They wouldn't even know what hit them.

Yes, a quick death was certain, rather than slowly dying due to lack of oxygen.

When I read about carbon fibre being used for part of the submersible, it sent chills down my spine.

R.I.P..

DK

 

[missy]

Life lost is a tragedy. I don’t hate someone just because they’re wealthy. A little boy died. Some of the comments here are not ok imo

 

[telephone89]

Life lost is a tragedy. I don’t hate someone just because they’re wealthy. A little boy died. Some of the comments here are not ok imo

There were no kids on the sub. A 19 year old man acknowledged the risks and went ahead with it.

In other news, the step son of one of the deceased sounds like absolute trash. Posting about going to concerts, hitting up OF models and widely spreading how single he is (now that he will likely become very very rich). Now THAT is not ok.

 

[Lookinagain]

There were no kids on the sub. A 19 year old man acknowledged the risks and went ahead with it.

19 year old brains are not fully developed from what I've read. And most 19 year olds have no idea of their own mortality. Granted, he wasn't a little boy, but he wasn't what I would consider a MAN. He couldn't even buy a beer at his age.

 

[telephone89]

19 year old brains are not fully developed from what I've read. And most 19 year olds have no idea of their own mortality. Granted, he wasn't a little boy, but he wasn't what I would consider a MAN. He couldn't even buy a beer at his age.

He sure could buy beer, he didn't live in the states.
I'm just correcting the record, no "little boy" died. 5 men, who signed a waver that mentioned "Death" multiple times on the first page, passed. If we could stop sharing fake news that'd be great.

 

[monarch64]

This makes me sick.

19-year-old passenger ‘terrified’ to go on Titan submersible, NBC News reports

Just hours after officials presumed the five missing people dead, the NBC News Channel reported the 19-year-old passenger was “terrified” to go on the trip.

www.wfla.com

 

[Rfisher]

Unless there was total misrepresentation or outright lies to the ones who paid their fees and signed the waivers to participate -
this is no different than John Denver, Steve Irwin, Ayrton Senna, anyone who free climbs or attempts Mt. Everest. What risks they take, willingly.

it doesn’t mitigate the tragedy nor the pain their friends and family feel.

my comment “with a smile“ was sincere. Not in gilb.

 

[telephone89]

This makes me sick.

19-year-old passenger ‘terrified’ to go on Titan submersible, NBC News reports

Just hours after officials presumed the five missing people dead, the NBC News Channel reported the 19-year-old passenger was “terrified” to go on the trip.

www.wfla.com

But the teen ended up going on the submersible since the trip fell over Father’s Day weekend and he allegedly didn’t want to upset his dad.

That is really terrible.
If old rich billionaires want to risk their lives that's one thing. As harsh as my previous replies were (perhaps cold, but facts), I do think the loss of a young college student is tragic. Especially if he felt coerced to go out of familial obligation.

 

[telephone89]

Unless there was total misrepresentation or outright lies to the ones who paid their fees and signed the waivers to participate -
this is no different than John Denver, Steve Irwin, Ayrton Senna, anyone who free climbs or attempts Mt. Everest. What risks they take, willingly.

it doesn’t mitigate the tragedy nor the pain their friends and family feel.

my comment “with a smile“ was sincere. Not in gilb.

The french explorer has famously said he isn't afraid to die, but to be fair he was 77. Absolutely the definition of dying doing what you love. And as I stated above, the waver mentioned death 3x on the front page according to previous participants.
"In a 2020 interview with France Bleu radio, he spoke of the dangers of deep diving, saying: "I am not afraid to die, I think it will happen one day." "

 

[Petalouda]

The people on board were well educated. One was an experienced explorer who had traveled to the Titanic several times. The CEO believed in his shoddy product so much he was on it himself. It shows smart people can make poor and misinformed decisions.

The submersible had been to the Titanic before. The CEO was willing to travel in it. I can see how the others may of thought it would be safe and not done more due diligence, especially if the lawsuits were not public. One passenger was sold on it to the point he brought his son. Tragic and terrible. For me the red flag would of been how the CEO repeatedly eschewed regulation openly. He believed regulation killed innovation and thought his product to be superior and just as safe, if not safer, without needing rigorous testing and certification.

 

[Daisys and Diamonds]

19 year old brains are not fully developed from what I've read. And most 19 year olds have no idea of their own mortality. Granted, he wasn't a little boy, but he wasn't what I would consider a MAN. He couldn't even buy a beer at his age.

i thought about that young chap all day
at 19 you have your whole life ahead of you
i read somewhere an aunty said that he didnt really want to go

 

[Daisys and Diamonds]

The people on board were well educated. One was an experienced explorer who had traveled to the Titanic several times. The CEO believed in his shoddy product so much he was on it himself. It shows smart people can make poor and misinformed decisions.

The submersible had been to the Titanic before. The CEO was willing to travel in it. I can see how the others may of thought it would be safe and not done more due diligence, especially if the lawsuits were not public. One passenger was sold on it to the point he brought his son. Tragic and terrible. For me the red flag would of been how the CEO repeatedly eschewed regulation openly. He believed regulation killed innovation and thought his product to be superior and just as safe, if not safer, without needing rigorous testing and certification.

education doesnt always equate to common sense

there is a reason you cant drive a car on the road you knock together yourself or heaverly modify without it going through cetification