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Aeromax

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Sorry for the rant, I know this place is swamped with young, nervous, inexperienced people like myself asking stupid questions over and over because they''re about to drop more cash than they ever have before in their life. Doing this takes some of the edge off.

Over the past week or two, I''ve been here educating, browsing, thinking.

My tax return came in today. It''s time to get down to serious business. The event is happening in mid-April, so the purchase will probably happen sometime in march, or even early april depending on how long I can put off while my glass nerves vomit into a virtual toilet. I''m comparing prices starting today, but my head is simply swimming with diamonds. I''m literally thinking about them in my sleep. Comparing prices is proving difficult, because there are just so many factors. However, I know what I want. I would like something in the neighborhood of .8ct, no less than H color, VS2 clarity, and the cut should be absolutely top notch, H&A''s stuff. I don''t want to spend any more than $4000 on the rock. I would like to see the diamond in person if possible, which is leading me to believe I should take a trip down to GoG on long island (I''m in CT) for a day and see what they have. Should I even bother stopping into the local small stores? I''m not even sure the stores here deal in loose diamonds, but then again I''ve never bought an expensive peice of jewelery in my life. But I don''t want to rule out the other reputable vendors on here with good prices, that I can purchase from online. Should I start by going to local places to compare them, or is it not even worth it? The problem with doing that, is they all close at like 5 or 6, and I can''t get to them after work. There aren''t really any convenient to where I work either.

I''m not really sure what I''m trying to get at here, and reading other people''s threads that are just like mine has only helped a little. Guess I just had to start one of my own.
 

Oh my... your post really made me smile! *hugs*


Welcome to PS anyway... and don''t worry, you''re off to a great start!


You know what you want in terms of size, colour and clarity - and you already know that you need to focus on getting an awesome cut.


That''s more than 99% of people ever figure out!


Cut down your options to begin with and just do a bit of price research at the main online vendors PSers tend to use: Whiteflas, Good Old Gold & James Allen.


A visit to GOG is a fantastic idea, to allow you to see some stones in real life. :)


It might be worth visiting B&Ms as well, if only to investingate different setting styles, if you haven''t figured this part out yet. In terms of prices & actually buying from them, you''ll find they are wayyy more expensive, and generally with far inferior quality diamonds.


BTW, GOG has this stone, which fits your criteria perfectly.

We are all here to help you and to make this experience as painless and vomit-free as possible.

x x x

 
lol Your post had me smiling too. I sympathize.
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Like Cleo said, you are off to a great start. I''d personally skip going to the trouble (it sounds) of looking locally. I just don''t think they''ll carry the caliber of stones at the prices GOG does. You have the cream of the crop at your finger tips.
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I would recommend calling and speaking with Jon, who you may know is the head honcho. He''s a great person to work with, and he can get some stones ready for you to look at, by appt. I would ask to see some eyeclean SI1''s also. That would allow you to go a bit bigger if you liked. You might be surprised at what you don''t see.
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Date: 2/22/2008 11:39:42 AM
Author: Ellen
lol Your post had me smiling too. I sympathize.
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Like Cleo said, you are off to a great start. I''d personally skip going to the trouble (it sounds) of looking locally. I just don''t think they''ll carry the caliber of stones at the prices GOG does. You have the cream of the crop at your finger tips.
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I would recommend calling and speaking with Jon, who you may know is the head honcho. He''s a great person to work with, and he can get some stones ready for you to look at, by appt. I would ask to see some eyeclean SI1''s also. That would allow you to go a bit bigger if you liked. You might be surprised at what you don''t see.
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Ditto and welcome!
 
Hey there,

I''m not one of the long-time "experts" you''ll find around here, but I just wanted to say a few things...

I have to back Cleo up on everything -- B & M stores are great for seeing and touching settings...and I know that occasionally B & M''s may have special deals that are worth looking into..but just to save you a LOT of time and frustration...my hubby and I spent a lot of time researching and price-shopping for my 10th anniversary upgrade diamond recently and none of the B & M prices could come close to those offered by the online dealers here on PS. Of course, we compared apples to apples (same GIA or AGS certification, same color, same clarity, cut grade, etc) to really understand the price difference...and the PS online vendors won every single time! You can spend time doing this also -- or if you''d rather cut-to-the-chase, just feel confident that when comparing equivalent stones (same color, cut grade, clarity, carat weight, shape, grading lab, etc) you''ll virtually always do better with one of the respected online dealers Cleo mentioned. So..I wouldn''t spend a whole lot of time pricing diamonds with B & Ms, but focus on settings when you''re there.

Another time and frustration-saving tip: just look for diamonds graded by GIA or AGS laboratories. Many of the other grading labs come into question often around here, so I''d avoid those if I were you.

We purchased my new diamond from James Allen. It''s a G color, SI1 AGS Triple 0 Ideal cut stone and when we received it, we had the oldest, most respected jewelry business in town have their appraiser appraise the stone and he gave it the highest marks, agreed with everything on the AGS cert and valued the diamond, if they were selling it in their store, at nearly 40% more than what we paid for it through James Allen. My husband about croaked when he heard that! I agree with Cleo that you''d do well with Whiteflash, Good Old Gold or James Allen online.

And I also back Cleo up that the stone she linked you to at Good Old Gold looks like a winner! And it is even a G color -- one color grade higher than you were aiming for. You may wanna call Good Old Gold about that one asap and even possibly put a hold on it & go see it! Plus it sneaks in at just under your budget and you can''t beat that!

Good luck & have fun!
 
I did see some SI1''s in another post a couple of days ago, and was dissapointed at the inclusions on a couple of diamonds I saw in some pictures, so I decided to step up to VS2. Should I take another look? If it can''t be seen by the naked eye, then it''s good enough for me. It only needs to sparkle.
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Date: 2/22/2008 11:52:30 AM
Author: Aeromax
I did see some SI1''s in another post a couple of days ago, and was dissapointed at the inclusions on a couple of diamonds I saw in some pictures, so I decided to step up to VS2. Should I take another look? If it can''t be seen by the naked eye, then it''s good enough for me. It only needs to sparkle.
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Absolutely. EACH diamond has to inspected. There are some that aren''t eyeclean, and somer that are. It is most definitely a case by case basis. I have an SI1 .58 earring stud, that I can''t even see the inclusions with a loupe.
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Wow - thanks Ellen & 3shebabes :) *blush*

I went with VS2... totally through inexperience & nervousness about seeing inclusions in my stone.

I now wish I had considered SI1 - which LOADS of PSers have. If a vendor confirmed it was totally eye clean from about 10cm away, from the top and from every side (which is MY idea of eye clean), I'd be delighted to buy it.

A lot of vendors have their own definitions of eye clean, so be sure to specify EXACTLY what you mean when you ask if a stone is eye clean.

I'm with you - if I can't SEE it, then that's fine by me. :)

Bear in mind, if you were seeing inclusions on diamonds posted on PS, the chances are that you were looking at photos taken at probably something like 40x magnification. This is wayyyy more than you will ever see through a 10x loupe and you don't stand a chance of seeing that well with your eyes!

It's amazing what you can't see with your naked eye, to be honest.

Also, don't be put off by the markings on a grading report.

If I showed you my AGS grading report, the markings on the plot of inclusions would probably make you run ten miles... yet my stone is a VS2. The inclusions in my diamond are clouds, and although the plot looks terrifying, I even struggle to find them with a loupe and I'm a real hawkeye!

x x x

*ETA* I looked at some uncerted diamonds in my local B&M the other day, purely for amusement. The jeweller told me they were 'SI' clarity. To me, they were more like I3.... FULL of brown dusty speckles, visible with the naked eye. One of the advantages of choosing GIA/AGS certed stones & avoiding B&Ms I'd say!!
 
Well, I appreciate all your input. It''s made me reconsider SI1''s, maybe SI2''s. I definetly am going to get to some B&M''s to look at settings, but I don''t plan on buying a diamond at one. I think I will make an appointment to go to GoG, and compare what I find to other online vendors. Chances are though, that what I get to see with my own eyes I will buy, but only if the price disparity is not too great.
 
I think that''s a great way to go about it Aeromax. Let us know how it goes!
 
Good plan! Call up Jon and ask him to have a selection of stone for you to look at within your price range, all eye-clean. Then just buy what you like from GOG. There are some stones you could *maybe* find for a better price, but you get a 100% trade-up policy at GOG and they seem so nice and friendly there! They can also get you a setting from lots of designers.

DD
 
Hi there. You budget sounds totally do-able IMO. I recently bought a D VS 2 0.8ct ACA from Whiteflash (their branded ideals, H&A stones) for about $4500 I think, before discount. So, based on that you could easily get something with a lower colour for $4000 I think. A few others around here will be able to suggest particular stones, but my partner is in the car in the garage, yelling for me to get into it! Oops, now he is beeping to, gotta go!
 
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