Obama infomercial

[strmrdr]

He talks a good game.
Was interesting and informative.
Well produced.
Some things I agreed with some I don't.
I still don't think he can do what he says and also don't trust his party to do it.
I don't trust him to leave my 2nd amendment rights alone is a deal breaker.
So while maybe I respect him a bit more he is not a candidate I can support.

 

[trillionaire]

I wasn''t entralled or anything, but thought the live closing was good. I liked hearing how families are doing across the country, and I liked seeing pictures of him with folks on the campaign trail. He''s already got my vote, so I was just curious in watching tonight, but it was nice. Maybe better for people who were less comfortable with him?

 

[luckystar112]

I didn't watch it. I didn't see the point, since there is nothing that he could say to get me to change my mind. I'm blindly devoted to the other guy.

ETA: I'm watching news coverage of it right now.

 

[goobear78]

Date: 10/29/2008 8:58:01 PM
Author: luckystar112
I didn''t watch it. I didn''t see the point, since there is nothing that he could say to get me to change my mind. I''m blindly devoted to the other guy.

ETA: I''m watching news coverage of it right now.

Where? On Fox? LOL.

 

[goobear78]

I watched in on channel 4 (NBC) . I thought it was very good. He already has my vote, but I watched in anyway. I was very proud of Senator Obama. I am also proud of our country. I feel he is what we need right now and he will get us through this mess that we''ve been in for the last 8 years. This is a very exciting time either way.

 

[luckystar112]

Date: 10/29/2008 9:03:38 PM
Author: goobear78

Date: 10/29/2008 8:58:01 PM
Author: luckystar112
I didn''t watch it. I didn''t see the point, since there is nothing that he could say to get me to change my mind. I''m blindly devoted to the other guy.

ETA: I''m watching news coverage of it right now.

Where? On Fox? LOL.

I''m actually watching Larry King Live, no mention of the informercial. I might catch it later.

 

[Kaleigh]

Well he interrupted the pre game show for the Phillie''s I was PO''D.

But will watch it later...


Go Phillie''s!!!

 

[goobear78]

If anyone is interested, you can catch the full thing at the link below. This is to Obama''s page on You Tube.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtREqAmLsoA&eurl=http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/28/obamas-prime-time-tv-comm_n_138767.html

 

[AGBF]

He already had my vote, and I saw no startling new policy announcements (nor did I expect to). I was moved and saddened by the real stories of real middle class Americans struggling, however. Seeing the different trays in the refrigerator in the home where the mother had each child''s snacks for the week made me sad. She didn''t say her children were going hungry. We saw her at what looked like football practice. On the other hand, each chilld had a limited number of snacks for a week and had to decide how to use them. My daughter doesn''t have to limit her snacks. She would find it hard to believe that anyone in the middle class in the United States did.

I was also saddened to see the 72 year-old black man go back to work as his wife rubbed her arthritic hands. The containers of medications reminded me of those that had once been in the home of my grandmother and disabled aunt. Arthritis can be so painful. And this elderly woman''s husband was soldiering on, even though he had once retired, because he couldn''t, otherwise, afford her medicines. As she rubbed cream (I assumed a Bengay) on her hands, I wanted to cry. Old age should not be so hard.

Sometimes life is just too tough.

Deborah

 

[strmrdr]

Date: 10/29/2008 9:19:06 PM
Author: AGBF
On the other hand, each child had a limited number of snacks for a week and had to decide how to use them. My daughter doesn''t have to limit her snacks. She would find it hard to believe that anyone in the middle class in the United States did.

I know several families that can afford all the snacks they can eat that does the same thing.
It teaches responsibility and good nutrition by limiting snacks and makes them resposible for them.
Growing up we had junk food snacks maybe 5 days a month and ice cream was available most of the time.
I would have rather had a selection for a week.
They didnt say they were doing it for budget reasons either it was just implied in the infomercial.

 

[swimmer]

I actually just got back from watching it with NH voters. They seemed positive about it. More positive about the free soda and snacks, but so was I. Baked goods and politics! my element. But I''m so tired of driving to NH to talk with voters there...but what can a MA voter do? We weren''t even swing in 88. Of course I loved the infomercial and was moved by the people who shared their lives with us. The FLA live feed was fabulous on a huge screen TV. Love that Obama filled it! I was scared that it would be boring, can you imagine what Gore would have done with that time? But if Storm thought it wasn''t bad, must have been pretty darn good!

 

[Skippy123]

Date: 10/29/2008 9:19:06 PM
Author: AGBF


He already had my vote, and I saw no startling new policy announcements (nor did I expect to). I was moved and saddened by the real stories of real middle class Americans struggling, however. Seeing the different trays in the refrigerator in the home where the mother had each child's snacks for the week made me sad. She didn't say her children were going hungry. We saw her at what looked like football practice. On the other hand, each chilld had a limited number of snacks for a week and had to decide how to use them. My daughter doesn't have to limit her snacks. She would find it hard to believe that anyone in the middle class in the United States did.

Me too. I agree with Swimmer; I thought it was going to be boring and it wasn't. In fact I found it to be a bit of a tear jerker and quite moving.

 

[strmrdr]

Date: 10/29/2008 9:19:06 PM
Author: AGBF
I was also saddened to see the 72 year-old black man go back to work as his wife rubbed her arthritic hands. The containers of medications reminded me of those that had once been in the home of my grandmother and disabled aunt. Arthritis can be so painful. And this elderly woman''s husband was soldiering on, even though he had once retired, because he couldn''t, otherwise, afford her medicines. As she rubbed cream (I assumed a Bengay) on her hands, I wanted to cry. Old age should not be so hard.

That was sad, the medical situation in this country is a disgrace and getting medication is a huge problem for a lot of people not just the retired.
I know a ton of people that don''t take all the medication they are supposed to because they cant afford it. I am one of them. When I can get samples I take it when I cant I don''t because it is $250 a month.

But the government programs are just as bad.
The new government prescription drug system is a total mess!
I know several people that cant take the best drug for them because the plan they have don''t cover it and to switch plans would mean another would not be covered.
They wont even give them a list of all the drugs covered to give to their doctors and it ends up taking 4-5 prescriptions before something is found that the insurance will cover and that is even close to what they need.
Often they are much older less effective drugs.

 

[Elmorton]

Deborah, I did cry during that section - seeing the woman's gnarled fingers and her husband walking out the door, adjusting his Wal-mart badge, after he'd had a good career already was heartbreaking (not to mention the scene that preceded it, with the elderly man talking about how his company spent his retirement money) - and then that feeling was only followed up by Obama's story about his mother and her insurance problems when she was dying. I think politicians can be very out of touch with their constituents, but I felt like those scenes were not only moving but evidence that Obama gets exactly how bad this is for many Americans.

As a rhetor, I understand that this thing was very much playing to our emotions (sadness and hope) just like the McCain ads and strategy have been catered to our emotions (fear/trust/knowing the average joe). But, I also thought the thing was presented well. The plan was clearly outlined, and I think Obama addressed a lot of doubts/fears that undecided voters have brought up. But, I still wonder who the intended audience was - at this point, one would hope that most minds are made up (shoot, I've already voted as have most of my friends!), so I wonder if that money was spent simply to be a democrat rally, yanno?

 

[AGBF]

Date: 10/29/2008 9:31:57 PM
Author: strmrdr

I know several families that can afford all the snacks they can eat that does the same thing.
It teaches responsibility and good nutrition by limiting snacks and makes them resposible for them.
Growing up we had junk food snacks maybe 5 days a month and ice cream was available most of the time.
I would have rather had a selection for a week.
They didnt say they were doing it for budget reasons either it was just implied in the infomercial.

It was not having snacks for financial reasons, and the idea that the kids therefore might also not be able to eat a piece of fruit to assuage hunger between meals, that got to me.

I have trouble relating to problems with kids eating junk food since my daughter never did that. As all of Pricescope knows by now, I have almost every problem known to man with my daughter. One of them is even that she is too thin. She is, however, a healthy eater and she always has been! Her favorite food is salad. She doesn''t like either cake or ice cream and never eats either. When she was two I took her to the home of the parents of a college friend. They politely asked her what she would like for dinner that night. She said, "spinach". They asked me if she liked it raw or cooked, and I said either way. So they made a spinach salad and some boiled spinach and she was delighted.

Given the way my own child eats, I do not have a problem with snacks. She is very happy with an apple a day.

Deborah

 

[strmrdr]

Date: 10/29/2008 9:43:30 PM
Author: AGBF

Date: 10/29/2008 9:31:57 PM

Author: strmrdr


I know several families that can afford all the snacks they can eat that does the same thing.

It teaches responsibility and good nutrition by limiting snacks and makes them resposible for them.

Growing up we had junk food snacks maybe 5 days a month and ice cream was available most of the time.

I would have rather had a selection for a week.

They didnt say they were doing it for budget reasons either it was just implied in the infomercial.

It was not having snacks for financial reasons, and the idea that the kids therefore might also not be able to eat a piece of fruit to assuage hunger between meals, that got to me.

The snacks were all junk food.

 

[Haven]

Date: 10/29/2008 9:19:06 PM
Author: AGBF

He already had my vote, and I saw no startling new policy announcements (nor did I expect to). I was moved and saddened by the real stories of real middle class Americans struggling, however. Seeing the different trays in the refrigerator in the home where the mother had each child''s snacks for the week made me sad. She didn''t say her children were going hungry. We saw her at what looked like football practice. On the other hand, each chilld had a limited number of snacks for a week and had to decide how to use them. My daughter doesn''t have to limit her snacks. She would find it hard to believe that anyone in the middle class in the United States did.

I was also saddened to see the 72 year-old black man go back to work as his wife rubbed her arthritic hands. The containers of medications reminded me of those that had once been in the home of my grandmother and disabled aunt. Arthritis can be so painful. And this elderly woman''s husband was soldiering on, even though he had once retired, because he couldn''t, otherwise, afford her medicines. As she rubbed cream (I assumed a Bengay) on her hands, I wanted to cry. Old age should not be so hard.

Sometimes life is just too tough.

Deborah

I had a similar reaction, AGBF. The elderly man who went back to work at age 72 really saddened me.

Storm--I agree that limiting snacks teaches responsibility and good nutrition (well, I''d say that providing healthy, fresh alternatives to packaged snacks teaches good nutrition) but I still found that family''s situation sad. The snack issue was just a symptom of the family''s larger problems, and it always hurts to see the kids being affected by financial hardship.

I liked the piece. It moved me.

 

[miraclesrule]

I was looking for it, but still haven't seen it, but I will tell you that the demographics of employees for the company I work for are very sad.

Over 60% of our 8000+ part time work force are between the ages of 60 and 90. Many of them do it to get out of the house and to socialize, but the majority work because they absolutely have to work to survive and pay their bills. It's very sad when we have to tell someone that they can't work anymore because they are physically unable to do so...such as working with an oxygen tank...and they cry. It's very sad and many times...disgusting to think that an 87 year old HAS to work in this country.

Blech...

 

[goobear78]

Date: 10/29/2008 9:50:37 PM
Author: strmrdr

Date: 10/29/2008 9:43:30 PM

Author: AGBF

Date: 10/29/2008 9:31:57 PM


Author: strmrdr



I know several families that can afford all the snacks they can eat that does the same thing.


It teaches responsibility and good nutrition by limiting snacks and makes them resposible for them.


Growing up we had junk food snacks maybe 5 days a month and ice cream was available most of the time.


I would have rather had a selection for a week.


They didnt say they were doing it for budget reasons either it was just implied in the infomercial.

It was not having snacks for financial reasons, and the idea that the kids therefore might also not be able to eat a piece of fruit to assuage hunger between meals, that got to me.

The snacks were all junk food.

I didn''t see that. I thought some of the "snacks" were eggs and cheese. I''ll have to rewatch it to be sure. I''ll let you know...

 

[trillionaire]

my brother was equally unimpressed as I was. My mom was going on and on about how people on CNN were raving. I don't have cable, so I have no idea.

Plus, I voted Obama on 10/22, for my dad's birthday!

 

[Elmorton]

Uh yeah, with the snacks, I saw a bag of apples and the couple had some salad dressing on their shelf.

 

[strmrdr]

Date: 10/29/2008 11:19:10 PM
Author: Elmorton
Uh yeah, with the snacks, I saw a bag of apples and the couple had some salad dressing on their shelf.

The adult shelf was different than the kids shelf its on about the 2min point in the youtube vid.

 

[Ellen]

Date: 10/29/2008 9:37:24 PM
Author: Skippy123

Date: 10/29/2008 9:19:06 PM
Author: AGBF


He already had my vote, and I saw no startling new policy announcements (nor did I expect to). I was moved and saddened by the real stories of real middle class Americans struggling, however. Seeing the different trays in the refrigerator in the home where the mother had each child''s snacks for the week made me sad. She didn''t say her children were going hungry. We saw her at what looked like football practice. On the other hand, each chilld had a limited number of snacks for a week and had to decide how to use them. My daughter doesn''t have to limit her snacks. She would find it hard to believe that anyone in the middle class in the United States did.

Me too. I agree with Swimmer; I thought it was going to be boring and it wasn''t. In fact I found it to be a bit of a tear jerker and quite moving.

Ditto.

Another part that made me cry was when he was talking to the man in the audience who had retired from his company expecting 1500.00 a month, only the #@&*! company had spent millions of retirement funds, and now he only gets 300.00. The greed in this country has taken over, and I don''t know how you fix that, but something''s got to be done, at least with situations like this.

I wish they could have thrown more shots in of him being himself (happy), to "humanize" him a bit more.

The wheat fields shot at the beginning was neat.

 

[luckystar112]

The AP did some fact checking, for anyone who is interested.

Link

 

[strmrdr]

Date: 10/30/2008 11:50:41 AM
Author: luckystar112
The AP did some fact checking, for anyone who is interested.


Link

yep like I said...
"I still don''t think he can do what he says and also don''t trust his party to do it."

 

[Skippy123]

Date: 10/30/2008 6:36:49 AM
Author: Ellen

Date: 10/29/2008 9:37:24 PM
Author: Skippy123

Date: 10/29/2008 9:19:06 PM
Author: AGBF


He already had my vote, and I saw no startling new policy announcements (nor did I expect to). I was moved and saddened by the real stories of real middle class Americans struggling, however. Seeing the different trays in the refrigerator in the home where the mother had each child's snacks for the week made me sad. She didn't say her children were going hungry. We saw her at what looked like football practice. On the other hand, each chilld had a limited number of snacks for a week and had to decide how to use them. My daughter doesn't have to limit her snacks. She would find it hard to believe that anyone in the middle class in the United States did.

Me too. I agree with Swimmer; I thought it was going to be boring and it wasn't. In fact I found it to be a bit of a tear jerker and quite moving.

Ditto.

Another part that made me cry was when he was talking to the man in the audience who had retired from his company expecting 1500.00 a month, only the #@&*! company had spent millions of retirement funds, and now he only gets 300.00. The greed in this country has taken over, and I don't know how you fix that, but something's got to be done, at least with situations like this.

I wish they could have thrown more shots in of him being himself (happy), to 'humanize' him a bit more.

The wheat fields shot at the beginning was neat.

Do you think they didn't humanize him a bit because of the seriousness of what is going on with our economy and tough situations many Americans are facing? I thought the same thing too Ellen but thought that they probably did that because it is not a happy time? I don't know; I am just guessing here.

The wheat fields were pretty.

eta: Karl, I only saw eggs, I didn't see junk food either.

 

[Ellen]

Date: 10/30/2008 12:01:59 PM
Author: Skippy123

Do you think they didn''t humanize him a bit because of the seriousness of what is going on with our economy and tough situations many Americans are facing? I thought the same thing too Ellen but thought that they probably did that because it is not a happy time? I don''t know; I am just guessing here.

The wheat fields were pretty.

eta: Karl, I only saw eggs, I didn''t see junk food either.

Maybe. I wouldn''t have wanted them to make it one big happyfest, that''s for sure, as it wouldn''t have been appropriate. But I think most people like to see the "other" side, like at that dinner he was at with McCain. I think we all enjoyed seeing them (both) in that light, it made them more "real", yanno? But maybe it just wasn''t doable, or they felt it wasn''t the right time.

 

[HollyS]

It was pointless campaign fluff, in a pretty package. He''s all about the package.

There was nothing new presented in his ''informercial''. Should we be selling the U.S. Presidency as a consumer commodity?

Is anyone really swayed at this late date? If so, where the heck have they been? If they can get to the last few hours prior to an election and still not have a clue, should they even be voting?

 

[zhuzhu]

Date: 10/30/2008 6:39:09 PM
Author: HollyS
It was pointless campaign fluff.......


There was nothing new presented in his . Should we be the U.S. as a ?


Is anyone really swayed at this late date? If so, where the heck have they been? If they can get to the last few hours prior to an election and still not have a clue, should they even be voting?

Please see above in <>, which I would have said about McCain''s interview with Larry King last night. But I did not, because I think being bitter about the situation is not going to help anyone. It is the nation, that will decide the fate of our country. We should all cherish our freedom instead of feeling annoyed by how each candidate is putting out their last effort to win.

 

[zhuzhu]

Date: 10/30/2008 6:39:09 PM
Author: HollyS
It was pointless campaign fluff.......


There was nothing new presented in his "interview". Should we be "unfairly slamming" the U.S. "President candidacy" as a "dirty strategy to win votes while offering nothing substantially effective in policy"?


Is anyone really swayed at this late date? If so, where the heck have they been? If they can get to the last few hours prior to an election and still not have a clue, should they even be voting?

Please see above in "", which I would have said about McCain''s interview with Larry King last night. But I did not, because I think being bitter about the situation is not going to help anyone. It is the nation, that will decide the fate of our country. We should all cherish our freedom instead of feeling annoyed by how each candidate is putting out their last effort to win.