Novice- need help choosing which rock...

[webnetxpress]

I''m getting ready to take the plunge and buy a ring. She wants a full bezel in 14kt white gold, with a relatively thick band. I''ve been working with www.abazias.com on the ring & stone (comments/reviews?). We''ve settled on a really nice looking ring design. Now I''m trying to decide on the stone. From what I''ve read and what I''ve been told, when using the full bezel, you can get away with a stone with some imperfections, that the table is the only important aspect for a full bezel stone.

Having said that, what would you choose:
1.01 ct,G, SI1, Ideal/Excellent, $4760
1.02 ct,G, SI1, Very Good, $4800
1.09 ct,H, SI1, Ideal/Excellent, $4780
1.15 ct,I, VS2, Good, $4820
1.18 ct,I, SI1, Ideal/Excellent, $4820
1.19 ct,I, SI1, Ideal/Excellent, $4760

I like the idea of a bigger stone for the budget (<$5k). Just not sure if an "I" color will be noticeably yellower? Or if an SI1 is going to be less perfect than a VS2??

Comments, suggestions, recommendations, help all appreciated! Thanks.

 

[stone-cold11]

Inclusion, eye-clean is ok. But definitely not scrimp on cut, bezel will make a average cut less lively.

For cut advice, assuming these are round stone, we will need the crown and pavilion angles.

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 5/22/2009 11:02:01 AM
Author:webnetxpress
I'm getting ready to take the plunge and buy a ring. She wants a full bezel in 14kt white gold, with a relatively thick band. I've been working with www.abazias.com on the ring & stone (comments/reviews?). We've settled on a really nice looking ring design. Now I'm trying to decide on the stone. From what I've read and what I've been told, when using the full bezel, you can get away with a stone with some imperfections, that the table is the only important aspect for a full bezel stone.

Having said that, what would you choose:
1.01 ct,G, SI1, Ideal/Excellent, $4760
1.02 ct,G, SI1, Very Good, $4800
1.09 ct,H, SI1, Ideal/Excellent, $4780
1.15 ct,I, VS2, Good, $4820
1.18 ct,I, SI1, Ideal/Excellent, $4820
1.19 ct,I, SI1, Ideal/Excellent, $4760

I like the idea of a bigger stone for the budget (<$5k). Just not sure if an 'I' color will be noticeably yellower? Or if an SI1 is going to be less perfect than a VS2??

Comments, suggestions, recommendations, help all appreciated! Thanks.

Actually that is not so, ALL the proportions are important and how they work together, the table is only part of the story. With the diamonds listed can you post the report numbers if they are all GIA graded please, alternatively post the following info.

depth%
table%
crown and pavilion angles
girdle thickness
polish and symmetry grades
diameter measurement
fluorescence if applicable

SI1 can be an excellent choice if verified eyeclean by a trusted vendor and is reliably graded ( GIA or AGS). An I colour is in no way yellow, if you aren't sure see if you can see some in person of similar size and lab grade, that way you will see where your colour preferences lie.

 

[stone-cold11]

Ya, sorry... forgot the tables and depth too at the least. Thought he had those numbers listed.

Anyway, here is a video on diamond color, see where is your comfort zone. But also note that your display might have an effect on your color perception. http://vimeo.com/3288695

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 5/22/2009 11:16:28 AM
Author: Stone-cold11
Ya, sorry... forgot the tables and depth too at the least. Thought he had those numbers listed.

Anyway, here is a video on diamond color, see where is your comfort zone. But also note that your display might have an effect on your color perception. http://vimeo.com/3288695

No worries SC, its hard to remember and check everything all the time!

 

[webnetxpress]

sorry, i didn''t know to post any of the other details... i''m a true novice to this world!

here you go:

(yes, they are all GIA cert''d & round)

1.01 ct,G, SI1, Ideal/Excellent, $4760 #2105711348
1.02 ct,G, SI1, Very Good, $4800 1106595772
1.09 ct,H, SI1, Ideal/Excellent, $4780 depth 61.7,table 56,symm EX, Polish EX, girdle m-stk,measurements 6.60-6.62-4.08
1.15 ct,I, VS2, Good, $4820 2107255674
1.18 ct,I, SI1, Ideal/Excellent, $4820 depth 61.9, table 58,summ EX, Polish VG, girdle M, measurements 6.74-6.79-4.19
1.19 ct,I, SI1, Ideal/Excellent, $4760 depth 62.2, table 54, symm VG, Polish EX, girdle TN-M, measurements 6.80-6.83-4.24

 

[stone-cold11]

Date: 5/22/2009 2:19:50 PM
Author: webnetxpress
sorry, i didn't know to post any of the other details... i'm a true novice to this world!

here you go:

(yes, they are all GIA cert'd & round)

1.01 ct,G, SI1, Ideal/Excellent, $4760 2105711348
1.02 ct,G, SI1, Very Good, $4800 1106595772
1.09 ct,H, SI1, Ideal/Excellent, $4780 depth 61.7,table 56,symm EX, Polish EX, girdle m-stk,measurements 6.60-6.62-4.08
1.15 ct,I, VS2, Good, $4820 2107255674
1.18 ct,I, SI1, Ideal/Excellent, $4820 depth 61.9, table 58,summ EX, Polish VG, girdle M, measurements 6.74-6.79-4.19
1.19 ct,I, SI1, Ideal/Excellent, $4760 depth 62.2, table 54, symm VG, Polish EX, girdle TN-M, measurements 6.80-6.83-4.24

http://www2.gia.edu/reportcheck/index.cfm?fuseaction=home.showReportVerification&reportno=2105711348&weight=1.01

http://www2.gia.edu/reportcheck/index.cfm?fuseaction=home.showReportVerification&reportno=1106595772&weight=1.02

http://www2.gia.edu/reportcheck/index.cfm?fuseaction=home.showReportVerification&reportno=2107255674&weight=1.15

All 3 with the report numbers are too steep in the pavilion, light leakage, will be ugly in a bezel setting.

Do you have the angles data for the other 3?

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 5/22/2009 2:30:39 PM
Author: Stone-cold11

Date: 5/22/2009 2:19:50 PM
Author: webnetxpress
sorry, i didn't know to post any of the other details... i'm a true novice to this world!

here you go:

(yes, they are all GIA cert'd & round)

1.01 ct,G, SI1, Ideal/Excellent, $4760 2105711348
1.02 ct,G, SI1, Very Good, $4800 1106595772
1.09 ct,H, SI1, Ideal/Excellent, $4780 depth 61.7,table 56,symm EX, Polish EX, girdle m-stk,measurements 6.60-6.62-4.08
1.15 ct,I, VS2, Good, $4820 2107255674
1.18 ct,I, SI1, Ideal/Excellent, $4820 depth 61.9, table 58,summ EX, Polish VG, girdle M, measurements 6.74-6.79-4.19
1.19 ct,I, SI1, Ideal/Excellent, $4760 depth 62.2, table 54, symm VG, Polish EX, girdle TN-M, measurements 6.80-6.83-4.24

http://www2.gia.edu/reportcheck/index.cfm?fuseaction=home.showReportVerification&reportno=2105711348&weight=1.01

http://www2.gia.edu/reportcheck/index.cfm?fuseaction=home.showReportVerification&reportno=1106595772&weight=1.02

http://www2.gia.edu/reportcheck/index.cfm?fuseaction=home.showReportVerification&reportno=2107255674&weight=1.15

All 3 with the report numbers are too steep in the pavilion, light leakage, will be ugly in a bezel setting.

Do you have the angles data for the other 3?

Yes indeed and once you start getting steep pavilions like those, in I colour and lower, colour entrapment is a possibility and leakage issues. Try to keep pavilion angles around 41 degrees or less, the cut advisor will be of assistance there.

 

[webnetxpress]

No, their website doesn''t list the angles anywhere (that I could find).

See, this is the reason why I went here- you guys rock.

I will contact the vendor again and basically cut/paste your responses and see what their second wave of choices are.

Any other recommendations for a website/wholesaler for the stone?

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 5/23/2009 1:15:50 AM
Author: webnetxpress
No, their website doesn''t list the angles anywhere (that I could find).

See, this is the reason why I went here- you guys rock.

I will contact the vendor again and basically cut/paste your responses and see what their second wave of choices are.

Any other recommendations for a website/wholesaler for the stone?

Glad to help!

Here are some popular vendors.

www.highperformancediamonds.com

www.briangavindiamonds.com

www.goodoldgold.com

www.whiteflash.com

 

[stone-cold11]

Good luck with your search. If you need any help with the search online, just ask.