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ruby59|1487531082|4130762 said:
Look up the word terrorist?

I consider what is happening to women in Africa a terrorist attack , and this is no different.

That's not what I was asking, and that's not what he was talking about.
 

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E B|1487532711|4130768 said:
ruby59|1487531082|4130762 said:
Look up the word terrorist?

I consider what is happening to women in Africa a terrorist attack , and this is no different.

That's not what I was asking, and that's not what he was talking about.


But that is what is happening in Germany and Sweden.

But why are you not asking - why is this being covered up?
 

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I can't believe people are still trying to defend this guy.
 

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telephone89|1487533241|4130773 said:
I can't believe people are still trying to defend this guy.



Because he is protecting my daughters and others from being groped and attacked?

Yes he has his faults.

But this is not one of them.
 

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ruby59|1487533404|4130774 said:
telephone89|1487533241|4130773 said:
I can't believe people are still trying to defend this guy.



Because he is protecting my daughters and others from being groped and attacked?

Yes he has his faults.

But this is not one of them.
Do you have any idea what you're talking about? You started talking about Sweden, then Africa, and now apparently this is all happening in your backyard and trump is valiantly, single handedly shielding your daughters from 'it'? You seem very confused today ruby.
 

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ruby59|1487533404|4130774 said:
Because he is protecting my daughters and others from being groped and attacked?

Yes he has his faults.

But this is not one of them.

So wait, your daughters were groped and attacked in Sweden last night?! Is that what Trump was talking about when he said:

You look at what’s happening. We’ve got to keep our country safe. You look at what’s happening in Germany, you look at what’s happening last night in Sweden. Sweden, who would believe this?

BTW, if I had daughters, I personally wouldn't want them alone with or within grabbing distance of Trump considering what he said he likes to do to women. But hey, different strokes for different folks.
 

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telephone89|1487533688|4130778 said:
ruby59|1487533404|4130774 said:
telephone89|1487533241|4130773 said:
I can't believe people are still trying to defend this guy.



Because he is protecting my daughters and others from being groped and attacked?

Yes he has his faults.

But this is not one of them.
Do you have any idea what you're talking about? You started talking about Sweden, then Africa, and now apparently this is all happening in your backyard and trump is valiantly, single handedly shielding your daughters from 'it'? You seem very confused today ruby.


Again, when you cannot confront the topic head on, you resort to insults.

Sweden, Germany, Africa. Women are being raped.

Someone upthread asked why is Trump referring to this as a terrorist attack.

I responded that like in Africa, I find rape a terrorist act when done to try to change the culture of a country. In this case, because they do not like how women are dressing.

Now in addition to blowing things up and shooting people down, one more reason why we need to be careful on who we let into this country.

With me so far -

Question now being posed.

Why is Sweden covering this up?
 

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I didn't insult you, I said you seem confused because you are flitting from topic to topic with no discernible reasoning.

What do you think Sweden is trying to cover up? That women were raped in Africa? Is that what 'happened in sweden', that they are now covering up?
 

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telephone89|1487534284|4130785 said:
I didn't insult you, I said you seem confused because you are flitting from topic to topic with no discernible reasoning.

What do you think Sweden is trying to cover up? That women were raped in Africa? Is that what 'happened in sweden', that they are now covering up?

I will give you the benefit of the doubt that you are not this obtuse.
 

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telephone89|1487533688|4130778 said:
ruby59|1487533404|4130774 said:
telephone89|1487533241|4130773 said:
I can't believe people are still trying to defend this guy.



Because he is protecting my daughters and others from being groped and attacked?

Yes he has his faults.

But this is not one of them.
Do you have any idea what you're talking about? You started talking about Sweden, then Africa, and now apparently this is all happening in your backyard and trump is valiantly, single handedly shielding your daughters from 'it'? You seem very confused today ruby.

No. There is no logic, and there never will be. This is a desperate attempt to defend someone who is not defensible. Don't even try to find the logic--I've long stopped because there just never is any. The jumping around in topics, the random statements with no facts--all par for the course (unfortunately). :roll:
 

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lovedogs|1487534746|4130791 said:
telephone89|1487533688|4130778 said:
ruby59|1487533404|4130774 said:
telephone89|1487533241|4130773 said:
I can't believe people are still trying to defend this guy.



Because he is protecting my daughters and others from being groped and attacked?

Yes he has his faults.

But this is not one of them.
Do you have any idea what you're talking about? You started talking about Sweden, then Africa, and now apparently this is all happening in your backyard and trump is valiantly, single handedly shielding your daughters from 'it'? You seem very confused today ruby.

No. There is no logic, and there never will be. This is a desperate attempt to defend someone who is not defensible. Don't even try to find the logic--I've long stopped because there just never is any. The jumping around in topics, the random statements with no facts--all par for the course (unfortunately). :roll:


What random statements are you referring to?

Or do you mean the debunking of the statement that obviously something did happen in Sweden and for some reason it is being covered up.

Why won't you address this specific question?
 

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ruby59|1487534894|4130796 said:
lovedogs|1487534746|4130791 said:
telephone89|1487533688|4130778 said:
ruby59|1487533404|4130774 said:
telephone89|1487533241|4130773 said:
I can't believe people are still trying to defend this guy.



Because he is protecting my daughters and others from being groped and attacked?

Yes he has his faults.

But this is not one of them.
Do you have any idea what you're talking about? You started talking about Sweden, then Africa, and now apparently this is all happening in your backyard and trump is valiantly, single handedly shielding your daughters from 'it'? You seem very confused today ruby.

No. There is no logic, and there never will be. This is a desperate attempt to defend someone who is not defensible. Don't even try to find the logic--I've long stopped because there just never is any. The jumping around in topics, the random statements with no facts--all par for the course (unfortunately). :roll:


What random statements are you referring to?

Or do you mean the debunking of the statement that obviously something did happen in Sweden and for some reason it is being covered up.

Why won't you address this specific question?
In case it wasn't clear: we've all addressed it. NOTHING HAPPENED IN SWEDEN! Trump lied (shocking!) Somehow you've convinced yourself that there's some secret terrorist plot in Sweden that magically didn't happen and Trump heard about it and told a rally in FL. Somehow you decided it was related to rape happening in Africa I (and I assume others) can't follow how that happened, hence the confusion. I'm sorry you continue spinning yourself in circles in order to defend this idiot. It seems like way too much work, especially for someone who doesn't deserve it.
 

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Dee*Jay|1487529419|4130741 said:
ruby59|1487528248|4130738 said:
Could he possibly be referring to an incident that was ultimately thwarted by authorities.

I'm sure that's EXACTLY what happened!

A HUUUUUUGE band of marauding Muslims were going to ride in on their unicorns wielding light sabers and overtake Stockholm! But the authorities found out about it and put the kibosh on the planned attack! And it was all kept totally mum! SO MUM that not even the people involved knew about it!!!

It's so impressive how far and fast unicorn detection technology has advanced. How I wish the same would happen with bullshit detection. Maybe then statements from the Trump administration wouldn't require such extreme vetting. A Truth-O-Meter on the screen while Trump and his representatives are speaking would be both ideal and entertaining. I would suggest a related drinking game but I have neither the time nor tolerance to be that drunk.
 

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Dee*Jay|1487529419|4130741 said:
ruby59|1487528248|4130738 said:
Could he possibly be referring to an incident that was ultimately thwarted by authorities.

I'm sure that's EXACTLY what happened!

A HUUUUUUGE band of marauding Muslims were going to ride in on their unicorns wielding light sabers and overtake Stockholm! But the authorities found out about it and put the kibosh on the planned attack! And it was all kept totally mum! SO MUM that not even the people involved knew about it!!!

DeeJay I love you so much.
 

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lovedogs|1487534746|4130791 said:
telephone89|1487533688|4130778 said:
ruby59|1487533404|4130774 said:
telephone89|1487533241|4130773 said:
I can't believe people are still trying to defend this guy.



Because he is protecting my daughters and others from being groped and attacked?

Yes he has his faults.

But this is not one of them.
Do you have any idea what you're talking about? You started talking about Sweden, then Africa, and now apparently this is all happening in your backyard and trump is valiantly, single handedly shielding your daughters from 'it'? You seem very confused today ruby.

No. There is no logic, and there never will be. This is a desperate attempt to defend someone who is not defensible. Don't even try to find the logic--I've long stopped because there just never is any. The jumping around in topics, the random statements with no facts--all par for the course (unfortunately). :roll:
Now I'm confused lol. So she thinks that trump KNOWS something happened in Sweden, and now Sweden is covering it up. Because that makes more sense than believing trump is an idiot and said something stupid. Insanity
 

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t-c|1487533927|4130781 said:
ruby59|1487533404|4130774 said:
Because he is protecting my daughters and others from being groped and attacked?

Yes he has his faults.

But this is not one of them.

So wait, your daughters were groped and attacked in Sweden last night?! Is that what Trump was talking about when he said:

You look at what’s happening. We’ve got to keep our country safe. You look at what’s happening in Germany, you look at what’s happening last night in Sweden. Sweden, who would believe this?

BTW, if I had daughters, I personally wouldn't want them alone with or within grabbing distance of Trump considering what he said he likes to do to women. But hey, different strokes for different folks.


So you would rather have them at a musical festival where they are being groped. Or on the streets of Germany where they are being violated?
 

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telephone89|1487535268|4130801 said:
lovedogs|1487534746|4130791 said:
telephone89|1487533688|4130778 said:
ruby59|1487533404|4130774 said:
telephone89|1487533241|4130773 said:
I can't believe people are still trying to defend this guy.



Because he is protecting my daughters and others from being groped and attacked?

Yes he has his faults.

But this is not one of them.
Do you have any idea what you're talking about? You started talking about Sweden, then Africa, and now apparently this is all happening in your backyard and trump is valiantly, single handedly shielding your daughters from 'it'? You seem very confused today ruby.

No. There is no logic, and there never will be. This is a desperate attempt to defend someone who is not defensible. Don't even try to find the logic--I've long stopped because there just never is any. The jumping around in topics, the random statements with no facts--all par for the course (unfortunately). :roll:
Now I'm confused lol. So she thinks that trump KNOWS something happened in Sweden, and now Sweden is covering it up. Because that makes more sense than believing trump is an idiot and said something stupid. Insanity



http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/768980/Sweden-cover-up-migrant-rape-violent-crime

Telephone, did you even bother reading this link posted on page 1.
 

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telephone89|1487535268|4130801 said:
lovedogs|1487534746|4130791 said:
telephone89|1487533688|4130778 said:
ruby59|1487533404|4130774 said:
telephone89|1487533241|4130773 said:
I can't believe people are still trying to defend this guy.



Because he is protecting my daughters and others from being groped and attacked?

Yes he has his faults.

But this is not one of them.
Do you have any idea what you're talking about? You started talking about Sweden, then Africa, and now apparently this is all happening in your backyard and trump is valiantly, single handedly shielding your daughters from 'it'? You seem very confused today ruby.

No. There is no logic, and there never will be. This is a desperate attempt to defend someone who is not defensible. Don't even try to find the logic--I've long stopped because there just never is any. The jumping around in topics, the random statements with no facts--all par for the course (unfortunately). :roll:
Now I'm confused lol. So she thinks that trump KNOWS something happened in Sweden, and now Sweden is covering it up. Because that makes more sense than believing trump is an idiot and said something stupid. Insanity

Because not believing Trump would be difficult, and require being wrong. And that's hard, so it's easier to make up a string of implausible theories rather than admitting Trump is a liar.
 

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lovedogs|1487535527|4130806 said:
telephone89|1487535268|4130801 said:
lovedogs|1487534746|4130791 said:
telephone89|1487533688|4130778 said:
ruby59|1487533404|4130774 said:
telephone89|1487533241|4130773 said:
I can't believe people are still trying to defend this guy.



Because he is protecting my daughters and others from being groped and attacked?

Yes he has his faults.

But this is not one of them.
Do you have any idea what you're talking about? You started talking about Sweden, then Africa, and now apparently this is all happening in your backyard and trump is valiantly, single handedly shielding your daughters from 'it'? You seem very confused today ruby.

No. There is no logic, and there never will be. This is a desperate attempt to defend someone who is not defensible. Don't even try to find the logic--I've long stopped because there just never is any. The jumping around in topics, the random statements with no facts--all par for the course (unfortunately). :roll:
Now I'm confused lol. So she thinks that trump KNOWS something happened in Sweden, and now Sweden is covering it up. Because that makes more sense than believing trump is an idiot and said something stupid. Insanity

Because not believing Trump would be difficult, and require being wrong. And that's hard, so it's easier to make up a string of implausible theories rather than admitting Trump is a liar.


Another one who missed the article and those like it asking why is Sweden covering these attacks up?
 

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ruby59|1487528248|4130738 said:
Could he possibly be referring to an incident that was ultimately thwarted by authorities.

Don't you think here in the US there are potential tragedies that are ultimately averted that we never hear about.
Ruby this post was what I was referring to. You think something happened (or was going to) and that's what trump was talking about.

So is it this, or is it the cover up you're on about? Can you please clarify WHAT you believe trump was talking about?
 

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telephone89|1487535998|4130817 said:
ruby59|1487528248|4130738 said:
Could he possibly be referring to an incident that was ultimately thwarted by authorities.

Don't you think here in the US there are potential tragedies that are ultimately averted that we never hear about.
Ruby this post was what I was referring to. You think something happened (or was going to) and that's what trump was talking about.

So is it this, or is it the cover up you're on about? Can you please clarify WHAT you believe trump was talking about?


Telephone, the thread has progressed from there. You need to keep reading.
 

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telephone89|1487535998|4130817 said:
ruby59|1487528248|4130738 said:
Could he possibly be referring to an incident that was ultimately thwarted by authorities.

Don't you think here in the US there are potential tragedies that are ultimately averted that we never hear about.
Ruby this post was what I was referring to. You think something happened (or was going to) and that's what trump was talking about.

So is it this, or is it the cover up you're on about? Can you please clarify WHAT you believe trump was talking about?

Ok, I figured out where the rabbit hole goes. She's referring to an article in express.co.uk (which she posted). The article says that 1 fox news commentator (Ami Horowitz) said in an interview on Fox that terrorism is happening in Sweden and it's being covered up. He had no proof for this whatsoever. Interestingly, this interview happened on the 17th (Friday), and Trump's moronic comment happened on Saturday. SURPRISE! TRUMP WATCHES FOX NEWS AND GETS ALL OF HIS MISINFORMATION FROM THERE! There is no "conspiracy" here. Someone said something dumb on fox (SHOCK!), and Trump (who has nothing better to do than watch Fox), regurgitates the info in front of lots of people who don't know better than to question him. YAY for investigative googling!
 

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ruby59|1487536174|4130819 said:
telephone89|1487535998|4130817 said:
ruby59|1487528248|4130738 said:
Could he possibly be referring to an incident that was ultimately thwarted by authorities.

Don't you think here in the US there are potential tragedies that are ultimately averted that we never hear about.
Ruby this post was what I was referring to. You think something happened (or was going to) and that's what trump was talking about.

So is it this, or is it the cover up you're on about? Can you please clarify WHAT you believe trump was talking about?


Telephone, the thread has progressed from there. You need to keep reading.
I repeat my question.

Can you please clarify what you believe the incident was that trump mentioned? Or do you not know?
 

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lovedogs|1487536247|4130820 said:
telephone89|1487535998|4130817 said:
ruby59|1487528248|4130738 said:
Could he possibly be referring to an incident that was ultimately thwarted by authorities.

Don't you think here in the US there are potential tragedies that are ultimately averted that we never hear about.
Ruby this post was what I was referring to. You think something happened (or was going to) and that's what trump was talking about.

So is it this, or is it the cover up you're on about? Can you please clarify WHAT you believe trump was talking about?

Ok, I figured out where the rabbit hole goes. She's referring to an article in express.co.uk (which she posted). The article says that 1 fox news commentator (Ami Horowitz) said in an interview on Fox that terrorism is happening in Sweden and it's being covered up. He had no proof for this whatsoever. Interestingly, this interview happened on the 17th (Friday), and Trump's moronic comment happened on Saturday. SURPRISE! TRUMP WATCHES FOX NEWS AND GETS ALL OF HIS MISINFORMATION FROM THERE! There is no "conspiracy" here. Someone said something dumb on fox (SHOCK!), and Trump (who has nothing better to do than watch Fox), regurgitates the info in front of lots of people who don't know better than to question him. YAY for investigative googling!
Did you see the 'last week tonight' from last week? Hilarious
 

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ruby59|1487534041|4130782 said:
Someone upthread asked why is Trump referring to this as a terrorist attack.

I did no such thing. I asked why Trump would be referring to something that had nothing to do with what he was in the middle of speaking about. Something you said it may have been about. The whole point is that we're not talking about our drunk, Fox-watching uncle screaming about conspiracies around the Thanksgiving dinner table, and hey, let's tune him out but still love him because he's our blood, we're talking about the POTUS. And it's far past unacceptable.
 

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telephone89|1487536362|4130821 said:
ruby59|1487536174|4130819 said:
telephone89|1487535998|4130817 said:
ruby59|1487528248|4130738 said:
Could he possibly be referring to an incident that was ultimately thwarted by authorities.

Don't you think here in the US there are potential tragedies that are ultimately averted that we never hear about.
Ruby this post was what I was referring to. You think something happened (or was going to) and that's what trump was talking about.

So is it this, or is it the cover up you're on about? Can you please clarify WHAT you believe trump was talking about?


Telephone, the thread has progressed from there. You need to keep reading.
I repeat my question.

Can you please clarify what you believe the incident was that trump mentioned? Or do you not know?


Read my post again.

All I said is that things happen around us that ordinary citizens are not privy to. I speculated that maybe that was what Trump was referring to - an incident in Sweden that was kept quiet.

But it was an increased incident if rape that they were trying to shove under the rug.
 

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telephone89|1487536458|4130824 said:
lovedogs|1487536247|4130820 said:
telephone89|1487535998|4130817 said:
ruby59|1487528248|4130738 said:
Could he possibly be referring to an incident that was ultimately thwarted by authorities.

Don't you think here in the US there are potential tragedies that are ultimately averted that we never hear about.
Ruby this post was what I was referring to. You think something happened (or was going to) and that's what trump was talking about.

So is it this, or is it the cover up you're on about? Can you please clarify WHAT you believe trump was talking about?

Ok, I figured out where the rabbit hole goes. She's referring to an article in express.co.uk (which she posted). The article says that 1 fox news commentator (Ami Horowitz) said in an interview on Fox that terrorism is happening in Sweden and it's being covered up. He had no proof for this whatsoever. Interestingly, this interview happened on the 17th (Friday), and Trump's moronic comment happened on Saturday. SURPRISE! TRUMP WATCHES FOX NEWS AND GETS ALL OF HIS MISINFORMATION FROM THERE! There is no "conspiracy" here. Someone said something dumb on fox (SHOCK!), and Trump (who has nothing better to do than watch Fox), regurgitates the info in front of lots of people who don't know better than to question him. YAY for investigative googling!
Did you see the 'last week tonight' from last week? Hilarious

Yup, it was awesome.

Also, found the original "source" for this nonsense. It was about sexual assault/rape that happened at music festivals over the summer. Essentially there was misinformation at the beginning about the description of the perpetrators, and it was retracted. But by then, people who wanted to blame "foreigners" had already gotten hold of the foolishness.

https://www.theguardian.com/music/musicblog/2016/jul/06/swedish-festival-rapes-migrants-wrong-dangerous
 

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Why are they not saying who committed them, then?
 
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