niceice.com doesn''t have 58% Table

[cqdiep]

Hey guys, the people at Niceice.com say that they don''t carry any round diamonds with a 58% Table. Does that mean that a 58% Table diamond is necessarily bad? I know it depends on other factors too, such as crown and pav. angles. I also think that AGS allow the Table to go up to 60% for their Ideal cuts. The reason this caught my eye is because I just bought a 1 ct round diamond with the following specs:

Table - 58%
Depth - 61.4%
Crown - 33.5 deg.
Pav. - 43.7%
Pol/Sym - VG/VG

Based on these info, I would guess that the stone is about an AGS1 grade, and I don''t think the 58% table throws it off by that much. What do you guys think????

 

[belle]

what are the dimensions on your stone?

 

[JohnQuixote]

The traditional AGS ideal parameters (pre 2005) allowed tables between 53-57%. Anything larger was not allowed a 0 grade.

Recently AGS has updated to a performance-based rather than proportions-based system and tables including and above 60% may qualify for the ideal grade, depending on other particulars and how they perform in the new metric. This is fair because it allows for a greater range of taste while rewarding actual performance over 'blind' numbers. Dealers won't necessarily adjust what they consider 'elite' and proven merely as a result of new lab approaches.

Nice Ice has a very high standard for what they carry. Todd is quite discriminating and the goods he stocks fall within a narrow range that he considers the best. This is the same with many of the vendors on PS. We have similar tolerances we stay with for our top goods - with slight variations - based on experience and preference.

 

[cqdiep]

here are the dimensions for my stone:

6.59 X 6.64 X 4.06

I know that niceice.com carries only the best diamonds, so that''s why they''re so strict. I guess I would rather pay $5K for an AGS1 (this stone) than $12K for an AGS0 because I''m still a poor student. Would you guys classify this stone as an AGS1?

 

[valeria101]

Date: 8/17/2005 4:11:39 PM
Author: cqdiep
here are the dimensions for my stone:

I would rather pay $5K for an AGS1 (this stone) than $12K for an AGS0

Heck, so would I! How come the difference is that large !!! Are the other grades the same ?

If this other stone looks good, sure that. There is no reason in those numbers to reject it (try the CutAdviser under 'Tools' on top of this page for a reason). Now, of course the numbers are not everything and what not, but at least this is a start. If the seller can provide picture or there is some return policy allowing for a reality check ... there isn't much more left to talk about. Aside the story of the 7k price gap ? That is quite a bit.