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nutterbutter79

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Good Evening everyone!

My boyfriend is thinking very seriously about this stone for me. I have been doing some reading on pricescope and I was wondering if you feel that this diamond is good? I was worried about the Symmetry being just good. Is that going to affect the stone? How about the color of H will I notice any yellow? We have this priced around 6,000. Anything you think or suggest would be extremely helpful!


round brilliant
measurements: 6.58-6.62X4.07
weight: 1.07 carat
depth 61.7%
Table 57%
Girdle: very thin to medium, faceted
Cutlet: none
Polish: very good
symmetry: good
clarity: vs1
color: H
Fluorescence: none

Being new at this I could really use any help from the pricescope experts!
Thank you so much!=
 
In order to try and help we need some more information. Do you have the crown and pavilion angles? And is it certified by anyone?

If you have this info, you can plug it in here:

https://www.pricescope.com/cutadviser.asp

If the score is under 2 it is worth considering. Over 2 and I would pass.
 
Welcome to Pricescope!

Having a grading report associated and identified (preferably AGS or GIA) and the additional crown & pavilion angles noted are things that are helpful to also know.

Personally, I''d pass without it. This sort of info should be available. With lesser grading reports, color & clarity are difficult to know apples to apples for value purposes (other graders tend to be more lax), and without data about crown & pavilion, or images based on reflector images designed to show faults in leakage, one can''t comment on cut...which is what much of the focus on this board is about.
 
Hey,

I know most people are going to want to get a little bit more info before chiming in w/ their final opinions. Some of things that would be good to know are the Cut grade and which lab assigned that grade (GIA/AGL vs EGL/IGI) and the crown/pavilion angle measurements.

To answer some of the questions you had... Yes, the symmetry will affect the stone as it won''t allow as much light to be reflected back. Also the H color grade, the answer to that is a bit more subjective. You may or may not notice any yellow depending on some other factors such as if its set in gold or platinum/white gold.
 
Thanks for the responses!

It''s GIA certified and we''re waiting for the crown and pavilion angles.

Can you give me any more input using the current information? Are there any red flags that I''m not noticing?

Thanks so much for you help!
 
The open field of comps runs from $5200 - $7600 here...for GIA options with similar weights, colors & clarities. So...that yours is on the lower end of internet pricing & GIA is favorable.

Less favorable are the very thin girdle and good symmetry...but I''m not sure that they''re killers or not.
 
Thanks for all the help, I now have further info:

Crown angle: 35.4 degrees
Pavilion depth percentage: 43.4%

Is there any new information or possible red flags you can glean from having this other info? Are there any red flags I need to be on the lookout for?

Thanks again!
 
Though Lorelei gave you good advice on your other thread...you can use your current data to run the numbers through the HCA yourself...to find a) a result of 3.3, and b) a location of cross hairs near an unfriendly territory.

It's possible you can secure still better data...not sure why you'd have % for pavilion, when a) pavilion info is most important, and b) angles are better...but it may be an older GIA certificate, with data missing from that as your friend's source, and with data yielded from a utility that outputs percents instead.

Given the general availability of options more easily coming in under 2 on the HCA...it's hard to look for reasons not to keep looking.

Except of course...that you might like to agree with the likely choice of your boyfriend.

Your best consultative approach will be to share with him the link I shared with you above. Have him screen with the HCA. Or better, tell his source to run the numbers themselves before he's introduced to an option. Not all options 0 - 2 in the HCA are necessarily the one you ultimately want...but...given the availability of this tool, it does become easy to use the rubric...if it doesn't comply, let if fly.
 
Definitely check out some of the similar diamonds posted on here in that price range. Just perform the simple search and see what you can find. Always better to give up a little color/clarity for a lot more shine that will come with a better cut to get a real "WOW" factor. Also, a symmetry rating of "good" isn't going to look "good" next to the kind of hearts and arrows "fantastic" cuts that you will find in your search here...
 
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