Need some help with authentification

[mrs-b]

Hallo all

I helped my niece buy a ring via LT a while back. It was advertised as 14kt yellow, rose cut diamonds, and opal. She decided to buy a matching band and took it to local jewelers recently, where they told her the ring was plated and the diamonds were actually rose cut CZs. They arrived at the 'plated' decision because the ring had the initials P&S stamped on the inside.

Has anyone heard of this? P&S standing for plated? Here's a photo of the ring - does anyone see any immediate red flags? I've seen the ring in person, and I agree that the diamonds had no light return whatsoever. The opal does also look like a Welo, which seem much more current of late. Also, I can't see how it's being held in place; could it be...glued?

 

[Rfisher]

Do you happen to have picture from underside of ring looking up at the opal?
I can’t zoom in enough to see if there’s little tiny bits of gold holding in the opal or not.
It wouldn’t be unheard of, over the years, for a jeweler to put glue on a real opal, so I wouldn’t rule out genuine opal due to if indeed there is glue. They could have been just a lazy repair?
As for the local jeweler telling your niece it’s plated and cz, theres a chance they could be just as lazy. Wouldn’t be unheard of where I am.
Unfortunately you’ll either need to get with the LT seller and ask for more history/documentation maybe? I’m sure chances are slim on that though. Or find a jeweler who is willing to actually do a gold test and take a closer look at those rose cuts.
Don’t fret just yet. But understandable.

 

[Paisley2628]

I did some quick research on the P&S hallmark. That is a makers mark used in vintage rings. I have attached a link to a ring currently for sale that has P&S stamped on the inside.

https://www.etsy.com/listing/566802302/vintage-solitaire-rosy-pink-ruby-stone

 

[Paisley2628]

Here is another:

https://www.etsy.com/listing/602371965/antique-seed-pearl-ruby-rose-gold-ring

If you google:

Rubylane P&S ring

Etsy P&S ring

and look at images - there are examples of rings with that hallmark

 

[mrs-b]

Thank you SO much ladies - you are very helpful! And @Paisley2628 - thank you for looking all that up! Has set my mind at rest considerably.

 

[YadaYadaYada]

FWIW I had a very reputable jeweler in business for 80 years tell me single cut diamonds in a ring I had were cz's. Sometimes I think they are just not used to seeing the older cuts and immediately right them off as fake.

 

[ForteKitty]

A Kee gold tester will tell whether it's gold or gold plated. They're great to have.

 

[mrs-b]

This is all great advice - thank you so much, @Rfisher, @Paisley2628, @StephanieLynn and @ForteKitty!

I think it *is* authentic - just to be clear. The people telling my niece it was faux jewelry were gem traders, so how they'd know to recognize a Victorian setting is beyond me. And @StephanieLynn, as you said, single cuts would be well outside their realm of experience.

 

[mrs-b]

Is this the sort of thing you mean, @ForteKitty?

https://www.amazon.com/KEE-GOLD-ANA...8&s=gateway&sprefix=kee+gold+,aps,202&sr=8-10

 

[ForteKitty]

Is this the sort of thing you mean, @ForteKitty?

https://www.amazon.com/KEE-GOLD-ANALYZER-TESTING/dp/B06Y1DSYSN/ref=sr_1_10?crid=2R0C4RAWN6MM6&keywords=kee+gold+tester&qid=1569444298&s=gateway&sprefix=kee+gold+,aps,202&sr=8-10

Yes, but I got mine from this dude. I liked his tutorials. https://www.shrefining.com/kee-gold-tester/

 

[mrs-b]

Yes, but I got mine from this dude. I liked his tutorials. https://www.shrefining.com/kee-gold-tester/

Thank you!