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I really need some help from all of the knowledgeable people on the forum. I am looking at a 1.557ct AGS stone with specs below. The purchase is a stretch for me, but I am willing to put in the huge OT at work to make it happen for my GF. (She doesn''t know she is getting a ring yet) I want to make sure that I ask all the right questions and feel good that I did the necessary research to be making a wise investment. Price is $14,940 If anymore information is need, please ask & I can try to provide it. Thanks for anyone input, it is much appreciated... Please also feel free to make suggestions on other sizes, colors, clarity, if it makes sense, I just dont want it to look yellowish.. I assume bigger is always better to most woman, I may be wrong though???

Specs:
AGS cut: Ideal 0 1.557ct
Color: G
Clarity: VS1
Depth: 60.1
Table: 55.7
Polish: Ideal
Symmetry: Ideal
Girdle: Thin to Med.
Culet: none
Fluorescence: Neglible
Measures: 7.55-7.61x4.56
Crown Angle: 32.4
Pavilion Angle: 41.1
 
Hi there and welcome to pricescope. Hopefully someone will chime in on the stone. I have a G colored stone and I do not see yellow at all nor any warmth; it is plenty white
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Can anyone offer some insight?? I have been learning a lot on this site and other online sites but I am no expert..

Can you anyone give an opinion on an H color stone.. I am wondering if you anyone on that is not an expert could tell this difference between a G and an H. The only thing I am concerned about, is it the stone appearing yellow in anyway.

Thanks
 
Date: 7/20/2008 11:42:28 PM
Author: SuperSport
Can anyone offer some insight?? I have been learning a lot on this site and other online sites but I am no expert..

Can you anyone give an opinion on an H color stone.. I am wondering if you anyone on that is not an expert could tell this difference between a G and an H. The only thing I am concerned about, is it the stone appearing yellow in anyway.

Thanks
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You should not be able to tell the difference between a G and H. I have a 3 stone ring with a G center stone and H side stones and it looks fine, no yellow at all. This might help you with color http://www.goodoldgold.com/4Cs/Color/NearColorless/ mounted you will not see color.

Also, here is how the stone performed on the HCA https://www.pricescope.com/cutadviser.asp It looks like a nice stone. Do you have a picture of the stone?


Factor Grade
Light Return Excellent
Fire Excellent
Scintillation Very Good
Spread
or diameter for weight Excellent
Total Visual Performance 1.1 - Excellent
within BIC range
 
Seems like a pretty good deal to me, given the color and clarity of the stone. The spread is nice for a 1.5 ct as well, not to shallow or too deep. Have you checked with the prices from the vendors from this site for comparison? Also, please examine idealscope/ASET/Gemex results and post them if available. I wouldn''t by any diamond without first seeing the idealscope image, minimum.
 
It looks to be a promising diamond, but an Idealscope image would be good if you can get one please.
 
Here is the idealscope image the jeweler says goes with the above diamond.

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Can someone guide me on what questions to ask about AGS certificate?? Should I be interested in dates, or any other information that links the diamond to the cert.?? Thanks
 
After looking at that GOG comparison, I almost what to get an I color diamond... LOL
 
TTT. I just want to get some input on the idealscope and the other questions above. It looks like it has some inconsistancy in the cut in the southeast quadrent (dark triangular shapes are not uniform).
Can anyone please comment on that.. Thanks
 
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Anyone else have some input to help out. Thanks
 
I recently got a 1.5 carat Ideal cut I-SI stone from JA and we really happy with it. The color of the I is very white face up and only in a certain few lighting conditions do we see the hint of a yellow body color. This could bother some people, so if you think she''ll be sensitive to it, I would go with at least H. G color will be very white in my opinion.
 
Date: 7/24/2008 12:35:32 AM
Author: SuperSport
TTT. I just want to get some input on the idealscope and the other questions above. It looks like it has some inconsistancy in the cut in the southeast quadrent (dark triangular shapes are not uniform).
Can anyone please comment on that.. Thanks
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Yeah, that does look like a problem. One of the shadow arrows is missing in that area.
 

Supersport,


I''m not an expert but I''ll share some thoughts and maybe the experts can correct me if I spread miss info. I like your size. She''ll love it. I bought a 1.53ct for my wife and the size shows well. Yours definitely has a great spread.


You could save some money by considering a VS2 or eyeclean SI1. we have a G SI1 AGS000 and its beautiful. The idealscope looks a bit painted but some seem to think this is fine. I really don''t know. The crown angle is shallow and the pavilllion was steep but the idealscope seems to indicate they complimet each other well as does the HCA score.

Have you seen the stone and who are you getting it from? Good luck. Go for it. Your girl friend will be blown away.
 
Date: 7/18/2008 6:37:41 PM
Author:SuperSport
PS,

I really need some help from all of the knowledgeable people on the forum. I am looking at a 1.557ct AGS stone with specs below. The purchase is a stretch for me, but I am willing to put in the huge OT at work to make it happen for my GF. (She doesn''t know she is getting a ring yet) I want to make sure that I ask all the right questions and feel good that I did the necessary research to be making a wise investment. Price is $14,940 If anymore information is need, please ask & I can try to provide it. Thanks for anyone input, it is much appreciated... Please also feel free to make suggestions on other sizes, colors, clarity, if it makes sense, I just dont want it to look yellowish.. I assume bigger is always better to most woman, I may be wrong though???

Specs:
AGS cut: Ideal 0 1.557ct
Color: G
Clarity: VS1
Depth: 60.1
Table: 55.7
Polish: Ideal
Symmetry: Ideal
Girdle: Thin to Med.
Culet: none
Fluorescence: Neglible
Measures: 7.55-7.61x4.56
Crown Angle: 32.4
Pavilion Angle: 41.1
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SuperSport -- you should have no problems with it looking yellowish. I have compared my own D vs. G AGS stones, and I can tell you that once mounted in a ring, and in most normal lighting conditions, it is very hard to tell the difference. G-H are very good choices -- you should not see any yellow in them at all.

There are many ways you can get a brilliant diamond but still save yourself a little money though. Eg, no need to get a VS1 -- if you can find a VS2 or eyeclean SI1, you will still have a gorgeous stone at a lower price.

Also, you may want to look and see if there is anything just under 1.5 carats. I think there is a big price jump at 1.5 cts, and if you look for diamonds in the 1.30 - 1.49 range, you''ll avoid the premium and still get the size you''re looking for.

Eg, you may want to look into something along these lines (this one doesn''t have a picture up yet -- you''d have to request one and an IS image if interested):
http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/G-VS2-Ideal-Cut-Round-Diamond-1184964.asp

Happy hunting!
 
Just realized you''re looking at a James Allen stone, and wanted to comment that their prices are extremely competitive, even compared to other price-competitive internet vendors. I have earrings from them that are beautiful.

You should definitely ask for suggestions from them though re other stones roughly in that size that are maybe a little lower clarity wise and see if there are any better deals among the stones they have.
 
The idealscope looks nice, hopefully others will chime in.
 
Hi SuperSport,

Have you looked at many stones in person? That is a must when referring to color. Personally I find I colored stones to be very white and see no need for anything "better" than an H, but differant strokes. I also agree with others that you could get away with a 1.45ct (ish) and really not tell any differance in size but be able to save some $$.

That being said your stone looks great and if you want a perfectly white stone with almost no inclusions then that is a great choice. If you drop your color down to an H or I and your clarity down to a VS2 or SI1 you could spend the same and get a 1.75ct stone or spend less and get a 1.5ct.

examples:

1.58 G SI1 from GOG for $13,455 (with PS discount)
http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/4639/

1.73 I VS2 from GOG for $14,433 (with PS discount)
http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/4496/
 
Hi SS,

It would most likely be a very bright stone, with a tendancy towards white light return, instead of a nice mix of white light and fire. The reason for this is the lower crown angle. While it is within the accepted range, it''s not what most would recommend. If I were looking, I would suggest a crown angle closer to 34, and up to 35, with the appropriate pavilion angle. That would give you a nicer mix of light return.
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I really appreciate everyones advice... As I am reading, I am really listening to everyones input and suggestions.. Thanks PS..

If anyone else wants to chime in please do... I am still looing through a lot of stone online.
 
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