Need some advice (Tiffany''s or not...or where / similar type ?)

[buyaapl]

Hi all,

Need some help. After months of just looking lazily - I''m in high gear and found a ring I''m happy with. Unfortunately it''s at Tiffany''s. I''ve read many posts about people''s likes and dislikes - but I like the style of the Novo. Then again it''s Tiffany''s and it''s pricey. So my questions are:

A. How does this diamond sound (this is the only info they had)?
B. Can I get something similar at WF, BN, or another reputable online establishment? Tips would be greatly greatly appreciated.

The data:
I priced out one ring: $23,600
1.42CT, VVS1, G
6.93 x 6.92 x 4.40MM

I don''t like the fact it''s not D, E, or F. And on WF I guess the closest I can get is a ''Legato'' Engagement Ring with Micro Pave setting. I''m not even sure which cut of diamond to select, cushion is not as "square"..ideas?. I tried calling last night but no answer (it was still during business hours...must be busy)

Appreciate your help.
THANK YOU.

I want one similar to this one:

 

[JulieN]

I like the Legato better.

You can get square H&A cushions at GOG, and regular, square cushions at other places.

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/2927/ <$18000

 

[mrssalvo]

If you want a stone like Tiffany''s Novo I''d get the square H&A from Goodoldgold. You can also check out Ritani for a similar pave setting.

 

[neatfreak]

I would get a Square H&A from GoodOldGold as has been suggested and a Ritani Endless Love band/setting.

I don''t even have a square cushion (mine is rectangular) and I went to Tiff''s last week and the saleswoman thought mine was a novo! The look is very very close but a little more delicate. The prongs are more delicate, the pave is more delicate, the ritani is just nicer IMO. But it gives the same overall look as the novo for MUCH less.

Here is a picture of my ring for reference:

 

[DMBsGirl]

I would go for a square cushion stone (I''d go to Mark at ERD) and would also get a setting from Mark T. With that budget you could get much bigger than you would at Tiffany''s.

 

[buyaapl]

Neatfreak:

I like! Where did you get your''s? I talked to Tim at GOG and told me about an H&A Square that he hopes to send me more info when the diamond cutter is back. I believe I have to talk to Maria about the band. Does GOG have the Ritani Endless Love band?


Thank you guys - your help is getting me closer...

 

[mrssalvo]

I had heard that Goodoldgold was going to be adding Ritani to their setting selection but don''t know if they have yet. Pearlman''s is another PS vendor here who carries Ritani and you could easily get the setting through them if GOG can''t get it for you..

 

[neatfreak]

Date: 5/24/2007 9:36:36 PM
Author: buyaapl
Neatfreak:


I like! Where did you get your's? I talked to Tim at GOG and told me about an H&A Square that he hopes to send me more info when the diamond cutter is back. I believe I have to talk to Maria about the band. Does GOG have the Ritani Endless Love band?



Thank you guys - your help is getting me closer...

Thanks

I love it and I have to admit it was very nice to confuse the saleswoman at Tiffany's last week!!! I didn't even pick it to look like the Novo, but I succeeded in making it close I guess!

I would call GoodOldGold if you want to go the Square H&A way, they are known for that cut around here. That type of stone doesn't look like mine (mine is a cushion brilliant) but it DOES look the most like the Novo diamond out of anything else I have seen. If they aren't carrying Ritani yet you could certainly easily get the band from Pearlmans or even a local B&M near you that sells Ritani and have the stone you buy from GOG set in it.

If you want to go the cushion route instead, call Mark at Engagement Rings Direct in NYC. That's where I got mine. He's fantastic and specializes in cushions. Very reasonable prices too.

Hope that helps and you better come back with pictures!

 

[Mayflower25]

So I may be going against the tide on this one, but if you and your fiancee to be LOVE the Tiffany novo, I say get it! I recently received my 1.03ct/I/VVS2 Novo on the 25th, and Tiffany''s branding aside, it truly is the most beautiful ring I''ve seen in all my ering hunting.

However, I strongly recommend going down slightly on size/color/clarity. Have you priced out a 1.3-1.4/H/VS?
The difference to the naked eye is negligible and you''ll likely save a few thousand dollars. I believe my fiancee saved $1500 just by going down from a G on color. Also, no one will notice the visual difference between a VVS1 and VS2.

Just my opinion, but let us know how it all turns out!

 

[Cosmogrrl]

Date: 5/30/2007 5:50:46 PM
Author: Mayflower25
So I may be going against the tide on this one, but if you and your fiancee to be LOVE the Tiffany novo, I say get it! I recently received my 1.03ct/I/VVS2 Novo on the 25th, and Tiffany''s branding aside, it truly is the most beautiful ring I''ve seen in all my ering hunting.

However, I strongly recommend going down slightly on size/color/clarity. Have you priced out a 1.3-1.4/H/VS?
The difference to the naked eye is negligible and you''ll likely save a few thousand dollars. I believe my fiancee saved $1500 just by going down from a G on color. Also, no one will notice the visual difference between a VVS1 and VS2.

Just my opinion, but let us know how it all turns out!

Another Novo owner here...
This is not to create a conflict at all, but I kinda agree and disagree with everyone. Of course you can get something without a Tiffany name for less money. That is a given.
As for the colour/clarity issue, I would go down in clarity - not colour.

What we have found with the Tiffany''s (the cushion in particular) is that you CAN tell the difference between an F and let''s say, an I. Even the reps at Tiffany''s will suggest giving in on a bit of clarity for a better colour (4 different sales reps in 3 different cities!).
The salesperson brought in a few Novo''s for DF to choose from, and it was down to a .61 ct VS1 F, and a .71 VS1 I, and he went with the smaller one. He said he could see the yellow. I have heard this in another post recently - maybe it''s the cushion shape that does this?? Since when did DF be so colour sensitive! LOL
Anyways, good luck in your search!! I''m sure whatever you decide your GF with be so happy!!!

 

[Gypsy]

Date: 5/30/2007 6:28:01 PM
Author: Cosmogrrl

Date: 5/30/2007 5:50:46 PM
Author: Mayflower25
So I may be going against the tide on this one, but if you and your fiancee to be LOVE the Tiffany novo, I say get it! I recently received my 1.03ct/I/VVS2 Novo on the 25th, and Tiffany's branding aside, it truly is the most beautiful ring I've seen in all my ering hunting.

However, I strongly recommend going down slightly on size/color/clarity. Have you priced out a 1.3-1.4/H/VS?
The difference to the naked eye is negligible and you'll likely save a few thousand dollars. I believe my fiancee saved $1500 just by going down from a G on color. Also, no one will notice the visual difference between a VVS1 and VS2.

Just my opinion, but let us know how it all turns out!

Another Novo owner here...
This is not to create a conflict at all, but I kinda agree and disagree with everyone. Of course you can get something without a Tiffany name for less money. That is a given.
As for the colour/clarity issue, I would go down in clarity - not colour.

What we have found with the Tiffany's (the cushion in particular) is that you CAN tell the difference between an F and let's say, an I. Even the reps at Tiffany's will suggest giving in on a bit of clarity for a better colour (4 different sales reps in 3 different cities!).
The salesperson brought in a few Novo's for DF to choose from, and it was down to a .61 ct VS1 F, and a .71 VS1 I, and he went with the smaller one. He said he could see the yellow. I have heard this in another post recently - maybe it's the cushion shape that does this?? Since when did DF be so colour sensitive! LOL
Anyways, good luck in your search!! I'm sure whatever you decide your GF with be so happy!!!

Okay. Here's the scoop Cosmo: Your FI is not probably not really color sensitive at all. He could just be average as most people can see the color difference between F to I... especially when compared side to side.

F G H I

That's four steps. We aren't saying that he won't see the difference in an F to an I. No one here (and we aren't Tiffany's) would tell you that. Even in an ideal round you can see difference side to side.

But here's the point.
You won't see them side to side in real life.
Don't go down to I if you want a WHITE cushion.

Get a G. Save money. Lose nothing in color.
Unless you are REALLY REALLY color sensitive... and even then you may not notice it unless the two are side to side. Even then you may not be able to tell when mounted.

 

[shel]

Off topic, but re: your avatar name, I bought Apple stock and I love it!

 

[Mayflower25]

To better clarify what I said above, I wouldn''t always recommend going for an "I" color. In my case, it just happened to be the best out of the selection. It also depends on how you prioritize the four "C"s.

JMHO

 

[HappyAnniversary]

Ahh, that could be why the Tiffany salesman pulled out another I novo ring for me to look at, I bet that when they grade them, some end up graded as I''s but might be closer to the H than another ring at the same store. Congrats Mayfower! If I had lots of money I would have seriously considered the Novo to upgrade my ring.

 

[Cosmogrrl]

Date: 5/30/2007 6:58:43 PM
Author: Gypsy

Date: 5/30/2007 6:28:01 PM
Author: Cosmogrrl

Date: 5/30/2007 5:50:46 PM
Author: Mayflower25
So I may be going against the tide on this one, but if you and your fiancee to be LOVE the Tiffany novo, I say get it! I recently received my 1.03ct/I/VVS2 Novo on the 25th, and Tiffany''s branding aside, it truly is the most beautiful ring I''ve seen in all my ering hunting.

However, I strongly recommend going down slightly on size/color/clarity. Have you priced out a 1.3-1.4/H/VS?
The difference to the naked eye is negligible and you''ll likely save a few thousand dollars. I believe my fiancee saved $1500 just by going down from a G on color. Also, no one will notice the visual difference between a VVS1 and VS2.

Just my opinion, but let us know how it all turns out!

Another Novo owner here...
This is not to create a conflict at all, but I kinda agree and disagree with everyone. Of course you can get something without a Tiffany name for less money. That is a given.
As for the colour/clarity issue, I would go down in clarity - not colour.

What we have found with the Tiffany''s (the cushion in particular) is that you CAN tell the difference between an F and let''s say, an I. Even the reps at Tiffany''s will suggest giving in on a bit of clarity for a better colour (4 different sales reps in 3 different cities!).
The salesperson brought in a few Novo''s for DF to choose from, and it was down to a .61 ct VS1 F, and a .71 VS1 I, and he went with the smaller one. He said he could see the yellow. I have heard this in another post recently - maybe it''s the cushion shape that does this?? Since when did DF be so colour sensitive! LOL
Anyways, good luck in your search!! I''m sure whatever you decide your GF with be so happy!!!

Okay. Here''s the scoop Cosmo: Your FI is not probably not really color sensitive at all. He could just be average as most people can see the color difference between F to I... especially when compared side to side.

F G H I

That''s four steps. We aren''t saying that he won''t see the difference in an F to an I. No one here (and we aren''t Tiffany''s) would tell you that. Even in an ideal round you can see difference side to side.

But here''s the point.
You won''t see them side to side in real life.
Don''t go down to I if you want a WHITE cushion.

Get a G. Save money. Lose nothing in color.
Unless you are REALLY REALLY color sensitive... and even then you may not notice it unless the two are side to side. Even then you may not be able to tell when mounted.

Gyspy,
Thanks for the clarification

. I totally agree with you when put that way - I know you won''t see them side by side in real life...unless someone''s so lucky to get two!!!

I wasn''t really implying that you can''t or can tell a difference - it was just my own humble opinion.
Hope this clears things up!

 

[Gypsy]

No problem Cosmo.. I just wanted to point out the flaw in the sales tactic used. Pulling out a J to convince someone to buy a G is a little shady to me. F to I same thing. Of course when you put them side by side and imply that you would be getting your love an inferior stone your going to pick the higher color. The goal is to educate your customer then let them decide based on the facts... but well, a lot of sales people cross the line even if its just a little bit.

Personally? I'd rather have the bigger lower color stone. A nice H VS2 would be my choice.