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I found these on JamesAllen.com and would like an honest opinion of them both. Are they priced too high? I am nervous about the Girlde (too thick?) and the Symmetry (I rather it be a Very Good as is the Polish):

Stone #1
Item Number: 750140
Shape: Radiant
Carat weight: 1.90
Cut: Premium
Color: F
Clarity: VS2
Certificate: GIA
Depth: 66.8
Table: 68
Polish: Very Good
Symmetry: Good
Girdle: TN-M
Culet: None
Fluorescence: None
Measurements: 8.27*6.15*4.11
Price: $ 14,200


Stone #2
Item # 480232
Shape: Radiant
Carat weight: 1.98
Cut: Premium
Color: G
Clarity: VS1
Certificate: GIA
Depth: 64.9
Table: 62
Polish: Very Good
Symmetry: Good
Girdle: M-STK
Culet: NONE
Fluorescence: NONE
Measurements: 8.25*6.72*4.36
Price: $ 15,530


For Stone #2 I am concerned becasue I thought the Table is supposed to be bigger than the depth %.

Also, using the Diamond calc on this site (I think) it said something about these being overpriced and could be a low price of $8,500 or so


Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!



These are the bands (style) she likes

http://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images/view?back=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.search.yahoo.com%2Fsearch%2Fimages%3Fp%3Djennifer%2Blopez%2Bengagement%2Bring%26toggle%3D1%26ei%3DUTF-8%26fr%3DFP-tab-web-t%26b%3D61&w=150&h=150&imgurl=www.jewelrydrama.com%2Fphotos%2FR-1009-JLC-2T.jpg&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.jewelrydrama.com%2FProductDetails.asp%3FProductCode%3DR-1009-JLC&size=8.2kB&name=R-1009-JLC-2T.jpg&p=jennifer+lopez+engagement+ring&type=jpeg&no=75&tt=136&ei=UTF-8

and the one on www.karagosian.com (front page)








 
Why do you say you prefer the table smaller than the depth %?

How do you feel about the prices?
 
general rule... long sketchy reason...having to do with increasing crown height.

prices look right.
 
Honestly how low do you think a jeweler would be wiling to go to sell me stone #2?
 
Could you elaborate? I want to obviously get the best bang for the $ and have been told to look for the following:.1.9(min) -2.09(max)CT, VS1-SI1, G-H color, Table%: 60%(min)-69%(max) and, Depth%: 60%(min)-69%(max). Polish/Symmetry: Excellent-Very Good, Cutlet: none, Fluorescence: none.

I need some advice becasue A: I do not want to spend too much $$$ B: I want to get a stunning stone, C: I am not sure about the optimal specs.
 
With just a real quick glance, I would say that stone #2 is one I'd look at or have pictures sent to you of the actual stone.

Stone #1 at an F color means some of the money you are buying it for is paying for that high color, which, if that is imortant to you, is worth it. Many beautiful radiants that are well cut can be in the G-H-I range. I'm lucky enough to have two exceptional "J" radiants that are side stones to my center "H" and there is no discernable color difference to my eye, under any lighting condition. Granted I am not an expert, but if I can't tell the difference and neither can the average observer even under close scrutiny and various lighting conditions, then I'm good with it. If color is not that important to you and you are willing to compromise to a G-H or I, than you may want to consider going down a little in color to save money.

As far as polish and sym being EX EX. Well that will be a very hard order to fill. Getting VG VG or VG G or any combination may be the best you can find. Again, that factor alone is not the end story. It's the combination of all the best specs you desire and that gray area of tolerance/veriance that is acceptable among each one of those specifications.

In other words, no one spec that doesn't match your "ideal" criteria should make you count out the stone. There is leeway and you must evaluate how these combinations work as a whole, not individually. That is why you have to see it, or have pictures and reports run on it. The numbers are just the starting point.

Also, on the clarity, I think that a radiant is a more forgiving cut. A VS2 or SI1 (eye clean) is very doable and would save you some money.

Regarding the radiant cut itself. There are many cuts that are called radiants that can look anywhere from a cut corner princess cut (with an X in the middle) to a "crushed ice/glass" look. Make sure you look at many, many radiants to discern which is the radiant style that you like best.

Regarding certs, stick with GIA certs whenever possible, but an EGLUSA cert could be considered with verification of the numbers and ratings. Note that you will pay less for a stone certified by EGLUSA and there is a reason for that. If you are willing to take a chance on an EGLUSA certed stone, then I say it's a good gamble, assuming you verify, look at the stone and weigh the dollar savings compared to the reputation and credibility of the paper cert. As always, buyer beware! Information is your power and your eyes are your best tool.

Lastly, I AM NOT AN EXPERT. I'm just an average consumer, so take my advice as that of an afficionado, lover and owner of radiants, again, I am NOT any kind of expert.

Buying radiants is very frustrating but ultimately rewarding experience. When you find the right one, it was all worth it. Maybe that's why I like radiants so much. Because there is no formula, there is no right and wrong, there is no perfect number to fill in. It makes every stone unique and beautiful in its own right and as such must be evaluated on its own merits and the combinations of numbers that complete that individual stone.

No easy answers I'm afraid. Good luck to you.
 
Thanks for the input, I am looking around like a maniac and eventually I know something will pop up!
 
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