Need Help with 1st Diamond Purchase

[New Diamond Newbie]

Hi - I’m a new member and love all the education and stones posted here by others!

I’m looking for a MRB diamond for an engagement ring and came across the following. My local jeweler has offered to call this diamond for me at what seems like a reasonable price and I’m willing to act fast if the diamond seems like it will sparkle like crazy. I want as close to super ideal as I can get. I’ve included relevant details below...What are your thoughts regarding the quality of the diamond from a cut / performance perspective? Is this something that would perform in the ballpark of a super ideal cut diamond? Trying to see if this is the right balance of performance and value.

1.9ct
G / VS2
Table 55
Depth 62.1
Crown angle 34.5
Pav Angle 40.8

I punched it in to HCA and received a score of 1.3

Idealscope attached.

You can see video of the diamond in the following link:
https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...g-color-vs2-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-2628600

Thanks for all the help. This community is amazing!

 

[bmfang]

Specs are in bounds of super ideal so that’s a good start. I personally prefer lower girdle facets to be 75 for better contrast but that’s me. You may feel differently.

Looks like there is decent red saturation in the IS image. Though there is a pronounced lighter area at 6 o’clock under the table.

 

[tyty333]

The numbers are good and the idealscope is good (we've been told by one of the experts that we tend to be overly critical of idealscopes).
Arrows look a bit off but if you're not looking for H&A and not paying for H&A then it looks like a nice stone.

 

[New Diamond Newbie]

Specs are in bounds of super ideal so that’s a good start. I personally prefer lower girdle facets to be 75 for better contrast but that’s me. You may feel differently.

Looks like there is decent red saturation in the IS image. Though there is a pronounced lighter area at 6 o’clock under the table.

@bmfang - I agree, I prefer the shorter lower girdle facets and the contrast it provides. I'd keep looking for a diamond that checks all the boxes but I negotiated a price in the low $18k which seems like a really good value for this diamond. Trying to make sure I'm not missing anything before I make a move.

 

[New Diamond Newbie]

The numbers are good and the idealscope is good (we've been told by one of the experts that we tend to be overly critical of idealscopes).
Arrows look a bit off but if you're not looking for H&A and not paying for H&A then it looks like a nice stone.

@tyty333 - I can see how that happens when you're dealing with the best of the best diamonds on these boards.

With that said, could the misalignment of arrows lead to lower light sparkle or brilliance? I've seen a WF ACA that sparkled like crazy under all conditions and am looking for similar sparkle but don't necessarily need to see H&A in the diamond. I guess I'm looking for an ideal performance at a good price and not necessarily super ideal performance at super ideal prices.

 

[SimoneDi]

This is a great diamond with great specs! JA are also super great to deal with in terms of ordering and returns, so you can always return the diamond if you don’t love it. The numbers on this diamond are fantastic. I would not be worried at all about the LH %, GIA also rounds them. The small table will give off great fire and it is something desirable by many. The misalignment of the arrows is most likely due to to a bad IS image in my view. This seems like a winner stone to me.

 

[rockysalamander]

Hi - I’m a new member and love all the education and stones posted here by others!

I’m looking for a MRB diamond for an engagement ring and came across the following. My local jeweler has offered to call this diamond for me at what seems like a reasonable price and I’m willing to act fast if the diamond seems like it will sparkle like crazy. I want as close to super ideal as I can get. I’ve included relevant details below...What are your thoughts regarding the quality of the diamond from a cut / performance perspective? Is this something that would perform in the ballpark of a super ideal cut diamond? Trying to see if this is the right balance of performance and value.

1.9ct
G / VS2
Table 55
Depth 62.1
Crown angle 34.5
Pav Angle 40.8

I punched it in to HCA and received a score of 1.3

Idealscope attached.

You can see video of the diamond in the following link:
https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...g-color-vs2-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-2628600

Thanks for all the help. This community is amazing!

If you want to give your budget and wants, we can check for super-ideals in your budget...

 

[New Diamond Newbie]

This is a great diamond with great specs! JA are also super great to deal with in terms of ordering and returns, so you can always return the diamond if you don’t love it. The numbers on this diamond are fantastic. I would not be worried at all about the LH %, GIA also rounds them. The small table will give off great fire and it is something desirable by many. The misalignment of the arrows is most likely due to to a bad IS image in my view. This seems like a winner stone to me.

Thanks for the feedback SimoneDi. I've asked my local jeweler to call the diamond so I can view in person Am curious, what makes you think it is a bad IS image? What are the indicators of an IS image that is off?

 

[New Diamond Newbie]

If you want to give your budget and wants, we can check for super-ideals in your budget...

Thanks for checking in rockysalamander. I am looking for a round diamond that is around 1.8cts, G color, eye clean with no flourescence. This would be set in a classic solitaire ring. My budget is approximately $18k. Looking forward to the recos!

 

[rockysalamander]

Here's a few.
https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3788915.htm
https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3712977.htm
https://www.hpdiamonds.com/en-us/diamonddetail/HPD9016

 

[Victor Canera]

Hi New Diamond Newbie!

I can’t comment on the diamonds that you referenced here but I just wanted to add that the LGFs are slightly a matter of preference BUT they do a play a decent role in hearts and arrows optical symmetry. Higher LGFs cause clefts to appear in the patterning. Higher LGF percentages translate into thinner arrows in the stone when viewed from the face up position. A lot of people including me, prefer LGFs in the mid to upper-mid 70s for a really nice combination of hearts patterning and a nice contrast pattern between slightly thicker arrows and areas of brightness in a diamond.

Something to keep in mind; GIA rounds up LGFs to the nearest 5% ie 70%, 75%, 80%. AGS on the other hand gives you a more exact figure ie 75%, 76%, 77% etc.

Good luck!

 

[New Diamond Newbie]

Here's a few.
https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3788915.htm
https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3712977.htm
https://www.hpdiamonds.com/en-us/diamonddetail/HPD9016

Thanks @rockysalamander - the WF diamond looks fantastic but I am a little scared off by the inclusion at the base of the arrow near the middle of the table. Of course the picture is magnified like 40x on my screen so maybe its negligible. Regarding the other two diamonds they come in a little smaller than I am targeting but I suppose that is the compromise I need to make to purchase a super-ideal.

 

[rockysalamander]

Thanks @rockysalamander - the WF diamond looks fantastic but I am a little scared off by the inclusion at the base of the arrow near the middle of the table. Of course the picture is magnified like 40x on my screen so maybe its negligible. Regarding the other two diamonds they come in a little smaller than I am targeting but I suppose that is the compromise I need to make to purchase a super-ideal.

A standard #2 pencil eraser is 7 mm or so. Now, can you imagine seeing that inclusion on the eraser ? It's listed as eyeclean and I trust WF, but you have to feel comfortable.