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fearthisinc

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Ok.. So this past weekend I popped the big question.. Everything went great and she said yes.. The ring looked amazing and she absolutely loved it.. The ring is a three stone with three sided pave... Anyway... Proposal was done in disney and about two days after popping the question we find ourselves on one of the rides that have a black light.. Now when I bought the ring I specified that I did not like fluorescence and when she showed me center stones I made sure it did not have fluorescence and the center stone did not.. However they mixed in stones that did have flourescence into the ring.. One of the side stones has strong flourescence and about 4-7 pave stones have it and under a black light the ring shows its "spots".. I would think common sense would be to have all stones have flourescence or not have it.. I feel that having them mixed in just cheapens the look and after spending 12k on the ring I am pretty surprised they would overlook this.. Just wondering what you guys think about this.. Am I over thinking this or am I right in that they should not be mixing and matching stones?? And what should be done? Is this something that should be corrected or am I pretty much out of luck in having them replace the stones with ones that do not have flourescence?? Also will replacing them weaken the ring at all?? Is this something that will be noticed afterwards? I know that many times when diamonds are replaced you can always tell.. Not sure if its the same as with rings?
 
Ah, this has been one of my pet peeves for years. I have always disliked the mix of fluorescent and non-fluorescent melee you're liable to get in pave'd pieces - even in high-end designer settings that cost thousands of dollars... Just one of the many reasons I shy from pave. But I think it's generally inevitable unless perhaps you're willing to pay (a lot) extra to have the melee screened.

The fluorescent sidestone, again, careless, perhaps, but not entirely surprising.

This is clearly upsetting you - call in and talk to them about it. Vendors generally want their clients to be happy, hopefully you can come to some mutually acceptable resolution.
 
+1 to Yssie's excellent answer.
Checking 1mm stones ( or micro pave stones in general) for fluorescence is just not done- other than by melee suppliers that charge about double compared to very fine "regular" cutters.
If we're taking more sizable side stones, fluorescent stones are a lot easier to avoid without incurring big cost.

Three sided pave rings can be a total PIA to work on- but whoever made the ring should be able to replace a few stones without ruining the ring-
BUT- I'd strongly advise against it as a general statement.
Anytime a ring is worked on there's risk and three sided pave especially.
By all means ask the vendor- if they are not be very amenable to changing stones at this point, it's understandable for many reasons.....

Of course making sure you're satisfied is likely important to the person who sold you the ring....see what they say.
 
You are not out of line to be bugged, but that level of desired perfection if not the norm and most jewelers don't cater to it. I think I would perhaps look into having the fluorescent side stone changed out if its a larger size, prng set stone (like over 10 points). But I would leave the melee well enough alone. For one thing, its not typical to sort melee sizes for fluor. For another, never mess with a made ring unless you absolutely must. And finally, your time spent under UV will be minimal in the years to come -- even if you are a full out techno dance monkey right now, you won't be in 5 years.

And, remember: Your ring may have cost $12k but the mount cost a small fraction of that overall price I wager. So, don't get caught up in the whole "It cost $12k it should be perfect!" trap! The vast majority of your money was spent on the center stone which seems to meet your high standards. Don't let the small details on the mount color that.
 
If you never noticed before being in a full black light environment I would leave it alone. Sounds like it isn't noticeable under normal conditions
 
Yssie|1370899169|3462910 said:
Ah, this has been one of my pet peeves for years. I have always disliked the mix of fluorescent and non-fluorescent melee you're liable to get in pave'd pieces - even in high-end designer settings that cost thousands of dollars... Just one of the many reasons I shy from pave. But I think it's generally inevitable unless perhaps you're willing to pay (a lot) extra to have the melee screened.

I had never thought about this before looking at my ring under a blacklight... there are two fluorescent pave stones, each in exactly the same place on each side. So either whoever made my ring checked them, or else it was a stunning coincidence. It's really adorable looking imo. It would not be adorable if they weren't placed so well though.
 
Rockdiamond|1370900466|3462924 said:
+1 to Yssie's excellent answer.
Checking 1mm stones ( or micro pave stones in general) for fluorescence is just not done- other than by melee suppliers that charge about double compared to very fine "regular" cutters.
If we're taking more sizable side stones, fluorescent stones are a lot easier to avoid without incurring big cost.

Three sided pave rings can be a total PIA to work on- but whoever made the ring should be able to replace a few stones without ruining the ring-
BUT- I'd strongly advise against it as a general statement.
Anytime a ring is worked on there's risk and three sided pave especially.
By all means ask the vendor- if they are not be very amenable to changing stones at this point, it's understandable for many reasons.....

Of course making sure you're satisfied is likely important to the person who sold you the ring....see what they say.
These are all good points. I think it's worth looking into getting the side stone changed, but I'd leave the pave alone (it wouldn't be worth the risk for me). I'm surprised that you didn't notice what you refer to as "strong fluorescence" of the side stone until the black light experience though, I can usually see strong fluorescence when next to a stone with little or none in regular lighting. So maybe it's not as bad as you think and definitely worth talking to your jeweler about.
 
What kind of differences did you see with your naked eye between strong and no fluorescence diamonds without backlights?
 
I'm sure that it was completely by accident but every second stone in my new eternity has some level of fluorescence. It's very cool! :love: Funny, because checking for fluorescence in a new piece is always the last thing that I check, but DH had me hiding in a closet with a black light almost as soon as I got it on my finger!
 
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