Need help - I am having buyer's remorse

[trusch3]

I recently purchased a diamond and the more research I do makes me wonder if I made a mistake. Luckily there is a return period, but I need some expert opinions - please help. I am most interested in ensuring the diamond has very good fire and brightness. Here are the stats:

Round Brilliant
0.93 carat
G color
VS1 clarity
Excellent cut
Excellent polish
Excellent symmetry
61.4% depth
58% table (this is one of my concerns - see below)
35% crown
40.8% pavilion
1.7 HCA score
$5,400

The seller also provided a FireTrace report and AGS light performance test. So my concerns are a couple:

1) FireTrace and AGS reports show the table at closer to 61% - why would there be a discrepancy versus GIA report? Are FireTrace and AGS not meant to accurately measure table due to calibration issues?
2) The AGS report seems to have some symmetry issues and light leakage - but is still supposedly rated ideal

Thanks everyone for your opinions.

 

[diamondseeker2006]

Need to see the GIA lab report to compare to these.

 

[trusch3]

Attached is a copy of the GIA certificate...

 

[diamondseeker2006]

I cannot understand why the GIA report has 58 for the table when both of the other tests run show 60.6. Did you ask that question? This is basically a 60/60 stone, but the angles all look good and I don't see anything particularly wrong with it other than the apparent discrepancy on the report regarding the table size. GIA does round numbers on the report, but I am not sure where they came up with 58!

It came up with 0 (ideal) for light performance on the AGS testing, so that is good!

 

[trusch3]

Is it possible that the calibration on the Sarin equipment that uses the AGS PGS for measuring light performance was off by 2%? I emailed the GIA and they merely said they were confident in their measurements (obviously). But just trying to figure out if these additional reports even relate to the diamond I purchased?

 

[fuffi]

It's triple EX, medium girdle, G color. Obviously a beautifully cut stone. i doubt you'll be disappointed. I also doubt the table size on the GIA report is off.

 

[diamondseeker2006]

Do you have a magnified image of the stone itself? I have a diamond right now with a 58 table and I might be able to tell if it is larger. Maybe, can't promise. I'd be curious to see it. If it has a vendor label, you do have to get rid of that before posting, though.

 

[trusch3]

Diamondseeker2006 - Here is a picture of the diamond 50x magnified. I appreciate your input on this.

Thanks.

 

[JulieN]

Looks more like 58 than 60 to me.

 

[diamondseeker2006]

I think the diamond is tilted just slightly in that picture, but I believe it does have nice symmetry! I promise that I would tell you if the table was too large. I am pretty picky about that spec. But I think this stone's table looks just fine, regardless of whether it is actually 58 or up to 61. There is plenty of crown so that the stone looks balanced to me. I do not see it looking different than mine at 58. Most of us can't see the difference between table sizes that are close in size anyway. I went from a very perfect hearts and arrows stone to a GIA XXX and there is really no visual difference. Sometimes there are mental issues that make us need a certain spec, but in cases such as this, the stone is likely just fine! (Incidentally, my diamond is larger since it was an anniversary gift and not my original ring, but the table and angles are about the same and mine is also G VS1!)

 

[Enerchi]

I like the stats (good size, colour, clarity and cut) and the picture. The picture having the diamond slightly tilted, as DS noted, but there are visible arrows... Looks pretty good to me. Why are you having second thoughts? It is a very good stone - relax and enjoy the next step - setting!

You did well, don't worry! Once you see it IRL, you will be very pleased with your decision to purchase THIS stone!

 

[diamondseeker2006]

I found a picture of mine with the 58 table so you can see for yourself.

 

[TC1987]

I think the table looks more 58 than 60 or more, too. The price is good. Looks like a good deal.

 

[Garry H (Cut Nut)]

You must be careful estimating table sizes because depending on how close the lens is to the stone one gets different perspective issues.

GIA will have used a Helium or a well maintained Sarin scanner. It appears the scan you have was done on an OGI. So the GIA report will be more accurate, even though it is rounded to whole percentage points.
However even if the table was 61% it is still possible to have a stone that gets the top grades in all systems. (HCA was the first to go there BTW).

It appears to be a nice stone.

 

[Garry H (Cut Nut)]

It would however be a good idea to check the GIA report number laser engraved on the girdle (for all diamonds with dossiers), or get an appraisers opinion that it is the same stone.

 

[trusch3]

Thanks everyone for the insight - much appreciated. If there is anything else, please pass it on.

I had the diamond delivered to a family friend, so plan to pick it up tomorrow. I will definitely have the laser inscription confirmed, just to be safe. But overall, hearing all the feedback has helped to ease my mind.

 

[Ashleigh1987]

hi there i am also having buyers remorse. I bought a cushion cut diamond which i am concearned may not be correct proportion wise. I paid $6500 Australian dollars.
here are the stats...
GIA
meauserments = 5.87x5.51x3.60 mm
carat weight = 1 ct
colour grade = D
clarity grade = SI1
polish = excellent
symmetry = good
fluorescence = none

ADGL
Shape = cushion
carat weight = 1 ct
meauserments = 5.49x5.84
table size = 63.3%
total depth = 65.6 %
crown angle = 36.3
crown height = 13.5%
Pavil angle = 30.3
pavil depth = 48.2%
cutlet = 0.2%

 

[justginger]

hi there i am also having buyers remorse. I bought a cushion cut diamond which i am concearned may not be correct proportion wise. I paid $6500 Australian dollars.
here are the stats...
GIA
meauserments = 5.87x5.51x3.60 mm
carat weight = 1 ct
colour grade = D
clarity grade = SI1
polish = excellent
symmetry = good
fluorescence = none

ADGL
Shape = cushion
carat weight = 1 ct
meauserments = 5.49x5.84
table size = 63.3%
total depth = 65.6 %
crown angle = 36.3
crown height = 13.5%
Pavil angle = 30.3
pavil depth = 48.2%
cutlet = 0.2%

Hi Ashleigh. You'll perhaps get more responses if you start your own thread.

Keep in mind with pricing that diamonds are much more expensive here in Oz than they are in the States. If you bought from a local retailer you can't really compare prices to what you can receive from the American PS vendors. You can, of course, buy from PS vendors for their better prices and then pay 10% GST when you get them shipped here.

Cushions are almost impossible to assess by their numbers (like modern round brilliants can be). You really need an ASET image to review its light performance.

Here's a short guide to various cushion cuts: https://www.pricescope.com/journal/cushion-cut-diamond-guide-engagement-rings-direct-0

 

[Ashleigh1987]

thanks
i am not sure how to start my own thread?

 

[justginger]

If you go to the top of this page, you'll see the title of the thread (Need help - I am having buyer's remorse) in capital letters and underlined. Right below that is a blue box that says "new topic" with a star next to it. Click on that and it will bring you to a page where you can type out your own new thread.