Need advise on this 0.4 ACA

[Oweny]

Hi all,

I am new to pricescope and learn a great deal about diamonds from many of the wonderful posts in pricescope.
I am buying a 0.4 solitude pendant for my fiancee and I am considering one from Whiteflash.

However I am abit concern about the ASET photo. Can someone tell me if its might posed a problem?

its J SI1.
http://www.whiteflash.com/hearts_arrows/A-Cut-Above-H-A-cut-diamond-1467412.htm#

Thanks.

 

[neatfreak]

What concerns you about it? Looks very nice to me!

 

[Lorelei]

Everything looks fine and that diamond should make a beautiful pendant.

 

[stone-cold11]

Agreed with above. Nothing seems wrong to me... What seems to be your concern anyway?

EDT:

I would call them up to ask them about the feather though, looks like the only defining features and for it to be SI1, and visble on both top and bottom view clarity plot, it might just be a structural problem.

 

[Oweny]

Thanks for the assurances.

The Ideal Scope looks great.
I am just concern about the black dark patches on the left side of the table in the ASET photo.

most ACA have great ASET photo but this particular one seems abit off.
Maybe I am just picking bones in an egg.

 

[stone-cold11]

That looks to me like just a photo error, probably a slight tilt in the placement of the stone when the ASET pic is taken.

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 10/12/2008 3:10:02 PM
Author: Stone-cold11
Agreed with above. Nothing seems wrong to me... What seems to be your concern anyway?

EDT:

I would call them up to ask them about the feather though, looks like the only defining features and for it to be SI1, and visble on both top and bottom view clarity plot, it might just be a structural problem.

SC, I very much doubt in a hand picked diamond picked by extremely knowledgeable experts of that clarity and size is going to have any structural problems! Also you cannot make any definitive judgement on any diamond by looking at the plotting diagram.

Oweny the variation on the ASET is very likely to be lighting, reflection or tilt/ positioning of the diamond - no worries.

 

[stone-cold11]

I know, I am just saying, cause on the plot, it is the only feature... No harm in checking, right?

 

[JulieN]

Date: 10/12/2008 3:23:53 PM
Author: Stone-cold11
I know, I am just saying, cause on the plot, it is the only feature... No harm in checking, right?

The harm is fear-mongering and customers who don't feel confident in being able to pick a stone on their own. An SI1 by definition should not have any structural problems. WF would not label it an ACA if they felt it had structural problems.

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 10/12/2008 3:23:53 PM
Author: Stone-cold11
I know, I am just saying, cause on the plot, it is the only feature... No harm in checking, right?

You need to be careful when offering advice not to cause unecessary uncertainty, fear and doubt ( known as FUD in Pricescope speak). With a diamond such as a branded in house ACA of SI1 clarity which is handpicked, scrutinized and evaluated by extremely careful and experienced vendors, any durability issues will be highly unlikely - and especially as it is an ACA which are so carefully checked before they can be awarded that title - and also intended for a pendant. I would have said to advise the other poster to check the feather with WF - but to avoid terms such as structural issues as it can cause concern where none is warranted. SC I know you mean well and are trying to help, but sometimes we all have to be careful as to the advice we give - whether we could possibly cause worry unecessarily. All of us old time PSers have had this happen in the past and you learn from it, that is why we are still here years later! Also we have a huge audience now of people reading and we want to try to make sure that the advice given is the right advice to the best of our abilities. If wrong info isn't corrected, then it still gets read and remembered and could mislead those who are about to purchase.

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 10/12/2008 3:30:04 PM
Author: JulieN

Date: 10/12/2008 3:23:53 PM
Author: Stone-cold11
I know, I am just saying, cause on the plot, it is the only feature... No harm in checking, right?

The harm is fear-mongering and customers who don''t feel confident in being able to pick a stone on their own. An SI1 by definition should not have any structural problems. WF would not label it an ACA if they felt it had structural problems.

Thank you Julie, you explained what I was trying to get across very well!

 

[stone-cold11]

And why would that be fear mongering? I am not asking him to stay away from the stone?

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 10/12/2008 3:38:32 PM
Author: Stone-cold11
And why would that be fear mongering? I am not asking him to stay away from the stone?

Because it can cause worry and doubt about their selected diamond where there is no need.

 

[Oweny]

Thanks all. I was just a bit concern over the darkness in the ASET.
But its clear to me now its very likely to be just a photographing error.

As for the clarity. if you have read the small prints in the AGS cert it says clouds and surface grain lines not shown. Plus the feathers... maybe thats why its graded a SI1.

 

[stone-cold11]

Err.. that is why the need to ask?

Fear-mongering as define in dictionary is the use of fear to leverage the opinions and actions of others towards some end. I am not selling anything, WF is not a competitor of mine and I am not seeking to buy that round, so that word does not apply does not apply to me in this case. I am just cautioning. If that is too much infomation, then I am sorry.

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 10/12/2008 3:46:38 PM
Author: Oweny

Thanks all. I was just a bit concern over the darkness in the ASET.
But its clear to me now its very likely to be just a photographing error.

As for the clarity. if you have read the small prints in the AGS cert it says clouds and surface grain lines not shown. Plus the feathers... maybe thats why its graded a SI1.

Oweny just check with WF if you are concerned over the ASET, they will be pleased to help you.

Also clouds and surface grain lines not shown are bascially a non issue and just mentioned for the sake of completeness - no worries.

You are going to have a gorgeous pendant!

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 10/12/2008 3:48:19 PM
Author: Stone-cold11
Err.. that is why the need to ask?

Fear-mongering as define in dictionary is the use of fear to leverage the opinions and actions of others towards some end. I am not selling anything, WF is not a competitor of mine and I am not seeking to buy that round, so that word does not apply does not apply to me in this case. I am just cautioning. If that is too much infomation, then I am sorry.

Just saying be careful with the advice you offer.

 

[Oweny]

Thanks Lorelei, Stone-Cold11 and JulieN.

Appreciate all your kind advise.

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 10/12/2008 3:55:40 PM
Author: Oweny
Thanks Lorelei, Stone-Cold11 and JulieN.

Appreciate all your kind advise.

Most welcome, we would love to see pics when your pendant is completed!

 

[denverboy]

looks like a great stone to me.

personally, I don't think there is any harm at all in asking WF about the feather. In fact I think it's good advice to do this and to be aware of the risk some feathers can pose. Having said that, I'm 99% sure the feather here isn't a problem - as others have said, since it is hand picked as an ACA the answer I'm sure will be that it poses no structural issues at all. And since it is an SI1 the feather is relatively small compared to those that do cause structural issues.

When I talked to Brian about a feather in my ACA stone that I recently purchased, he did say "if the feather posed any structural integrity issue then it would not be an ACA". So if you go ahead and ask, they'll probably tell you that same thing and then you can feel good about knowing it for sure

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 10/12/2008 4:37:39 PM
Author: denverboy
looks like a great stone to me.

personally, I don't think there is any harm at all in asking WF about the feather. In fact I think it's good advice to do this and to be aware of the risk some feathers can pose. Having said that, I'm 99% sure the feather here isn't a problem - as others have said, since it is hand picked as an ACA the answer I'm sure will be that it poses no structural issues at all. And since it is an SI1 the feather is relatively small compared to those that do cause structural issues.

When I talked to Brian about a feather in my ACA stone that I recently purchased, he did say 'if the feather posed any structural integrity issue then it would not be an ACA'. So if you go ahead and ask, they'll probably tell you that same thing and then you can feel good about knowing it for sure

Sure it is fine to ask - that is not in question ( see my earlier post), but advising that ( quote) " it might just be a structural problem" can cause concern where there is no need and that is what we need to be mindful of when offering advice.

 

[MichelleCarmen]

That stone looks PERFECT! It''d make an ideal pendant.

 

[marcy]

It looks like a great diamond and will look lovely in a pendant.

 

[MMT]

Please show us the pendant pictures when you get them. Sounds like it''s going to be beautiful!!!!