Need advice on AGS PGS results

[gintama23]

Can someone advice me on the AGS PGS results on this H & A diamond? I am not sure why there is not a heart and arrow shape?

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/5091/

http://www.goodoldgold.com/show.php?image=5091/AGS PGS.jpg

Is this diamond a real beauty? Not really sure on the AGS PGS results.

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 6/24/2009 12:23:04 PM
Author:gintama23
Can someone advice me on the AGS PGS results on this H & A diamond? I am not sure why there is not a heart and arrow shape?

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/5091/

http://www.goodoldgold.com/show.php?image=5091/AGS PGS.jpg

Is this diamond a real beauty? Not really sure on the AGS PGS results.

The second image isn''t working?

 

[ACN]

Date: 6/24/2009 12:26:25 PM
Author: Lorelei

Date: 6/24/2009 12:23:04 PM

Author:gintama23

Can someone advice me on the AGS PGS results on this H & A diamond? I am not sure why there is not a heart and arrow shape?


http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/5091/


http://www.goodoldgold.com/show.php?image=5091/AGS PGS.jpg


Is this diamond a real beauty? Not really sure on the AGS PGS results.

The second image isn't working?

Add the PGS.jpg after the link. For some reason it is not being included.

 

[Lorelei]

Ok got it to work, do you mean the image on the Sarin page? That is a computer simulation of the diamond, not an actual image so to speak. Its a beautiful diamond and Isee2 also!

 

[stone-cold11]

This is not a H&A.

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 6/24/2009 1:06:40 PM
Author: Stone-cold11
This is not a H&A.

It would appear it is being sold as h&a although the optical symmetry doesn't have the highest grade Jon awards usually for his h&a diamonds.

 

[stone-cold11]

I would say that is the worst ISee2 stone I have seen so far. They are generally much better cut than that.

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 6/24/2009 1:13:58 PM
Author: Stone-cold11
I would say that is the worst ISee2 stone I have seen so far. They are generally much better cut than that.

It is still a superbly cut stone and must have met Jon''s expert standards to be sold as one of his h&a and also Isee2''s.

 

[strmrdr]

The ASET image on the pgs report is computer generated and sometimes there is a weird result.
The actual ASET image trumps it.

 

[strmrdr]

Date: 6/24/2009 1:17:35 PM
Author: Lorelei

Date: 6/24/2009 1:13:58 PM

Author: Stone-cold11

I would say that is the worst ISee2 stone I have seen so far. They are generally much better cut than that.

It is still a superbly cut stone and must have met Jon's expert standards to be sold as one of his h&a and also Isee2's.

it is slightly tilted if he redid the image it would look better.
But it likely does have one slightly small heart but that is allowed under Brian's definition.
It is right on the edge in my book, I would have to see the redone image to say yes or no.

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 6/24/2009 3:00:40 PM
Author: strmrdr

Date: 6/24/2009 1:17:35 PM
Author: Lorelei

Date: 6/24/2009 1:13:58 PM

Author: Stone-cold11

I would say that is the worst ISee2 stone I have seen so far. They are generally much better cut than that.

It is still a superbly cut stone and must have met Jon's expert standards to be sold as one of his h&a and also Isee2's.

it is slightly tilted if he redid the image it would look better.
But it likely does have one slightly small heart but that is allowed under Brian's definition.
It is right on the edge in my book.

Yes absolutely, but it is still a great stone. The slightly smaller heart and the premium optical symmetry obviously hasn't disqualified it in Jon's view to be one of his h&a stones. It definitely looks like image tilt too.

 

[strmrdr]

Date: 6/24/2009 3:02:51 PM
Author: Lorelei

Date: 6/24/2009 3:00:40 PM

Author: strmrdr

Date: 6/24/2009 1:17:35 PM

Author: Lorelei

Date: 6/24/2009 1:13:58 PM


Author: Stone-cold11


I would say that is the worst ISee2 stone I have seen so far. They are generally much better cut than that.

It is still a superbly cut stone and must have met Jon''s expert standards to be sold as one of his h&a and also Isee2''s.

it is slightly tilted if he redid the image it would look better.

But it likely does have one slightly small heart but that is allowed under Brian''s definition.

It is right on the edge in my book.

Yes absolutely, but it is still a great stone.

yes it is and a well cut D/IF is very rare.
It is likely the best cut D/IF in its size range on the market.

 

[stone-cold11]

Date: 6/24/2009 3:00:40 PM
Author: strmrdr
it is slightly tilted if he redid the image it would look better.

But it likely does have one slightly small heart but that is allowed under Brian''s definition.

It is right on the edge in my book, I would have to see the redone image to say yes or no.

strmrdr, which side is it tilted towards to? I didn''t notice it even after you mentioned it, what is the give away?

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 6/24/2009 3:04:25 PM
Author: strmrdr

Date: 6/24/2009 3:02:51 PM
Author: Lorelei

Date: 6/24/2009 3:00:40 PM

Author: strmrdr

Date: 6/24/2009 1:17:35 PM

Author: Lorelei

Date: 6/24/2009 1:13:58 PM


Author: Stone-cold11


I would say that is the worst ISee2 stone I have seen so far. They are generally much better cut than that.

It is still a superbly cut stone and must have met Jon''s expert standards to be sold as one of his h&a and also Isee2''s.

it is slightly tilted if he redid the image it would look better.

But it likely does have one slightly small heart but that is allowed under Brian''s definition.

It is right on the edge in my book.

Yes absolutely, but it is still a great stone.

yes it is and a well cut D/IF is very rare.
It is likely the best cut D/IF in its size range on the market.

Bingo!

 

[stone-cold11]

Well, GOG just change it to their premium stone instead of their H&A stone.

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 6/24/2009 3:18:18 PM
Author: Stone-cold11
Well, GOG just change it to their premium stone instead of their H&A stone.

That is probably because he was made aware of this thread.

 

[whatmeworry]

Date: 6/24/2009 3:18:18 PM
Author: Stone-cold11
Well, GOG just change it to their premium stone instead of their H&A stone.

Did the price go down as well? Not being facetious. If it''s not their top level product, shouldn''t the price should reflect that.

 

[stone-cold11]

Date: 6/24/2009 3:20:45 PM
Author: Lorelei

Date: 6/24/2009 3:18:18 PM

Author: Stone-cold11

Well, GOG just change it to their premium stone instead of their H&A stone.

That is probably because he was made aware of this thread.

Not likely, more likely he make a error since he actually listed it''s optical symm as only premium instead of superior.

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 6/24/2009 4:08:54 PM
Author: Stone-cold11

Date: 6/24/2009 3:20:45 PM
Author: Lorelei

Date: 6/24/2009 3:18:18 PM

Author: Stone-cold11

Well, GOG just change it to their premium stone instead of their H&A stone.

That is probably because he was made aware of this thread.

Not likely, more likely he make a error since he actually listed it's optical symm as only premium instead of superior.

He was made aware of this thread and the queries concerning this diamond by me. Jon is the best one to clarify concerning the situation.

 

[Rhino]

Greetings,

Just for clarification.

To answer the original question. The PGS Results show a computer generated ASET image which doesn't always match the actual photographic results. We possess 2 different ASET Scopes by AGS here in our lab and visually confirm what we photograph althought the computer generated image doesn't always correllate. What we do ensure however and what we look for is that the diamond in question receives the AGS PGS "Ideal" light performance grade which will be reflected as "0" on that report where you see "Light Performance Deduction".

This diamond comes from a facility where we do get top level H&A's from. When we process a diamond into our database the description "Hearts & Arrows" gets applied but the Optical Symmetry was properly graded by our standards. Strm hit the nail on the head ... it is a borderline H&A due to the one Heart that is slightly smaller. I like to err on the side of caution which is why its OS was graded as "Premium". The typo/error occurred when the H&A description was applied but we fixed that. Thanks Lorelei. I also reduced the price as well wmw.

This particular diamond is a rarity being the combo that it is along with being D IF. As pointed out perhaps the finest cut D IF on the market in this size zone and why I purchased it and back it with lifetime policies.

My apologies if any confusion.

Kind Regards,

 

[Lorelei]

Thanks Jon!

 

[Rhino]

No prob. If there''s ever anything anyone sees out of the norm or unusual I''m pretty accessible although I try to pop in here and check on things from time to time.

Kind regards,

 

[whatmeworry]

Date: 6/24/2009 4:23:10 PM
Author: Rhino
Greetings,

Just for clarification.

To answer the original question. The PGS Results show a computer generated ASET image which doesn''t always match the actual photographic results. We possess 2 different ASET Scopes by AGS here in our lab and visually confirm what we photograph althought the computer generated image doesn''t always correllate. What we do ensure however and what we look for is that the diamond in question receives the AGS PGS ''Ideal'' light performance grade which will be reflected as ''0'' on that report where you see ''Light Performance Deduction''.

This diamond comes from a facility where we do get top level H&A''s from. When we process a diamond into our database the description ''Hearts & Arrows'' gets applied but the Optical Symmetry was properly graded by our standards. Strm hit the nail on the head ... it is a borderline H&A due to the one Heart that is slightly smaller. I like to err on the side of caution which is why its OS was graded as ''Premium''. The typo/error occurred when the H&A description was applied but we fixed that. Thanks Lorelei. I also reduced the price as well wmw.

This particular diamond is a rarity being the combo that it is along with being D IF. As pointed out perhaps the finest cut D IF on the market in this size zone and why I purchased it and back it with lifetime policies.

My apologies if any confusion.

Kind Regards,

Way to go Rhino, a good deal for consumers.