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Murder on Emerald Princess (Alaska cruise)

A sniveling insecure little man who was married to a goddess of a wife murders her. Hope they throw the book at him.
 
So strange. Really curious about why he said she wouldn't stop laughing at him.
 
This is just sad. How can you be so angry that you bash your spouses scull in....for laughing. I understand he was furious but I wish he had just taken a walk or something. That's 20 years of marriage down the drain and kids he'll likely never see again. speaking if the kids, does anyone know if they were in the room? I truly hope not. :blackeye:
 
I think they were in the room. One of them ran to get help.
 
It seems like maybe this man suffered some sort of mental breakdown. Even the worst abuser would be cognitive enough to not do something like this. I feel sad for all of them.
 
It's awful. Those poor girls. I read that one of them said, she knew her dad would do something like this. I imagine this was not his first explosion. He's ruined all of their lives. Just so sad...
 
Yes I am sure there is history here with this couple. His overly simplistic explanation that 'she wouldn't stop laughing at me' doesn't ring true. I am sure those poor children can give a lot of insight into that family dynamic. Very sad situation - I feel so sorry for those kids. Their lives have been changed forever.
 
I read this mostly on Cruise Critic (used to be a regular member when I was cruising often) There were some ship accounts posted over there which were startling. Sad that they turned out to be true but there you are.

Sad story all the way around frankly. I personally don't think its the first time he hit her.
 
Arcadian said:
I read this mostly on Cruise Critic (used to be a regular member when I was cruising often) There were some ship accounts posted over there which were startling. Sad that they turned out to be true but there you are.

Sad story all the way around frankly. I personally don't think its the first time he hit her.
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I read on cruise critic too.
 
I don't know very much about what happened. But when I hear news stories about "out of the blue" murders, my reaction is to think about my situation with my Family of Origin:

My mother is a violent rager who hit me during my childhood whenever she needed to relieve anxiety or rage. When I was 17, she hit me. She broke my brand new Ray Ban sunglasses (prescription and expensive, I paid for them with dogsitting money) and I broke our dog's water dish backing up to get away from her swing to my face, at which I failed.

I made a hard eye contact with her and I said: If you ever hit me again, I am going to hit you back.

She never hit me again.

BUT 3 years ago when she was raging at me in a restaurant and then in the parking lot, she clenched her fists and stepped forward to me. I realized in that moment that my promise to hit her if she hit me, was now void because my mom is 87 and I'm 58. If I hit her back now, I'd be arrested for elder abuse and assault.

I haven't seen her since that day. Its how I protect myself and my family from her violence and insanity.

I've never hit anyone in my life. Never been tempted to or felt the urge to. But I have empathy for people who snap and I know from personal experience that NO ONE KNOWS for sure what goes on in a family behind closed doors. My parents were/are esteemed successful members of their community. I doubt anyone ever suspected that I was an abused child.
 
@aztonie that is terrible and I'm sad you had such a terrible childhood. we were disciplined but we were also kinda spoiled (lol) so it wasn't without cause. Because my dad was away because of his military service a lot, my mother would have her hands full (no wonder she was so skinny!) I thank her for making sure we became functional members of society without prison records.

Childhood experiences aside, you did the right thing. Yes you probably could have been arrested for elder abuse and its good that you do what you need to do to protect yourself.

I had been reading a story today that said this woman's own children figured their father would do something like this someday. And that right there tells me more than I need to know about that household. I do hope he gets death penalty.
 
I find it repugnant that he was lamenting to the authorities, "my life is over."
You just killed your wife! What about hers?!! Or am I reading that wrong in which case he's showing remorse that he killed her? Doubtful. Those poor kids, the things they've seen!
 
I don't know. I wouldn't be so quick to judge the husband. If he snapped, as it sounds like he did, then maybe it was years and years of HER emotionally abusing HIM that was the real story. And maybe his daughters comment was a reflection that she knew there was only so much her Dad could take.

Either way, a terrible tragedy without question.
 
He murdered his wife by bashing in her head in front of at least one of his children. I can't negate that fact even if he were emotionally abused. I am quite sure that there is much more to the story than we know but unless he were in fear for his own life I could not defend him for his actions.
 
MissGotRocks said:
He murdered his wife by bashing in her head in front of at least one of his children. I can't negate that fact even if he were emotionally abused. I am quite sure that there is much more to the story than we know but unless he were in fear for his own life I could not defend him for his actions.
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Oh, I completely agree. No excuse at all. No matter what was going on it sounds like it wasn't some random incident and there had been problems for a while. Help should have been sought a long time ago :(
 
I just read about this earlier today. They were married for quite a few years. Their poor daughters. It will interesting to see how this unfolds. Something tells me this isn't the first time he has hit her. She laughed at him so he thought bashing her skull in was how to handle that. Unbelievable.
 
This whole thing is awful and I feel SO badly for the children and rest of the family, and the witnesses to this whole thing. I actually have a friendly acquaintance who was ON that ship, ON that floor, just a few staterooms down the hall and who heard the entire thing. She was posting on her Insta about it, talking about the absolutely terrifying announcements coming on from the Captain, explaining what was going on, calls for security and all medical personnel, and messaging a few of those who she knew better behind the scenes with small details that she didn't want to get too into. They didn't have to talk to the FBI but they provided their information as they also had heard it all, and if they could be of use they were willing to be called. It was quite heartbreaking, and frankly, I'd be pretty scarred by that as someone who was a witness to it, as she and her family were.

I read about and was told about people on the cruise being absolute terrors demanding free cruises and all kinds of recompense for the fact that they missed a stop and had to spend time on the ship due to the investigation. Now, I get being upset if your trip was interrupted and the natives getting angry and restless that their trips were ruined--but someone was MURDERED on the ship, I think some compassion was necessary. Personally, I'd want the F off that ship, and to be flown the F home, because there is no damn way I'd want anything to do with it after that.
 
azstonie said:
I don't know very much about what happened. But when I hear news stories about "out of the blue" murders, my reaction is to think about my situation with my Family of Origin:

My mother is a violent rager who hit me during my childhood whenever she needed to relieve anxiety or rage. When I was 17, she hit me. She broke my brand new Ray Ban sunglasses (prescription and expensive, I paid for them with dogsitting money) and I broke our dog's water dish backing up to get away from her swing to my face, at which I failed.

I made a hard eye contact with her and I said: If you ever hit me again, I am going to hit you back.

She never hit me again.

BUT 3 years ago when she was raging at me in a restaurant and then in the parking lot, she clenched her fists and stepped forward to me. I realized in that moment that my promise to hit her if she hit me, was now void because my mom is 87 and I'm 58. If I hit her back now, I'd be arrested for elder abuse and assault.

I haven't seen her since that day. Its how I protect myself and my family from her violence and insanity.

I've never hit anyone in my life. Never been tempted to or felt the urge to. But I have empathy for people who snap and I know from personal experience that NO ONE KNOWS for sure what goes on in a family behind closed doors. My parents were/are esteemed successful members of their community. I doubt anyone ever suspected that I was an abused child.
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I have a family of origin story too that I don't feel like getting into.
 
ame said:
Personally, I'd want the F off that ship, and to be flown the F home, because there is no damn way I'd want anything to do with it after that.
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This.

And I would never want to see another boat again, not even a child's play toy.
 
whitewave said:
I have a family of origin story too that I don't feel like getting into.
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I'm sorry you've got a FOO thing too. :eek2: They are hard to work through, that's for sure. I wish I had all the $$$$ I've spent on self-help books the last 30 years, it'd buy me a LOVELY piece of bling! :lol-2::mrgreen2: Glad you're on to a happy life with your own family and friends and cherished BULLIES!!! Manny and Margaret :wavey:
 
azstonie said:
I'm sorry you've got a FOO thing too. :eek2: They are hard to work through, that's for sure. I wish I had all the $$$$ I've spent on self-help books the last 30 years, it'd buy me a LOVELY piece of bling! :lol-2::mrgreen2: Glad you're on to a happy life with your own family and friends and cherished BULLIES!!! Manny and Margaret :wavey:
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Thanks! I need a bottle of wine to tell the saga.

But, yes, the life I have created is calm and peaceful.
 
The worst kind of pathetic coward, his life is over now boo hoo :x2

Off topic, I'm not surprised that people were self obsessed and demanding compensation, people openly boast on Cruise Critic about complaining in order to get freebies.

So sorry to hear about your childhood @whitewave and @azstonie , I can really sympathise with you sad :((
 
You know, I have a small bit of compassion for people with small kids who were stuck on the ship. We were delayed once by a tropical storm and when that happens, nothing on board is open. No shops, there is no activity etc. We were stuck like that for 6 hours and I was about to go stir crazy.

So I can understand those who complained they were bored because a maniac decided to murder his wife and ruin the lives of his kids, plus screwed up everyone's vacation to boot.

Of course it in no way compares to her losing her life.

My understanding is that Princess was good with their compensation. Some people may have a hard time getting to take that cruise again.

Like I said, it doesn't compare to her losing her life... but I do think passengers can complain about disappointments and boredom. I think 3 decks were confined to their rooms until FBI interviewed everyone. That sucks!!
 
I think adverse weather is a risk you take when cruising, we've missed ports because we just couldn't get in to them, also been violently ill in the South China seas when the waves were huge:eek2:

I think some people will never be satisfied with the compensation they're offered. We were on a cruise last year when they had a Noro outbreak. People who had it wouldn't stay in their cabins, we even spoke to people who were ill as soon as they got on board, so they brought it with them and said nothing. We were very generously compensated for having to return to Miami a day early, and people still weren't satisfied.
 
Bonfire said:
I find it repugnant that he was lamenting to the authorities, "my life is over."
You just killed your wife! What about hers?!! Or am I reading that wrong in which case he's showing remorse that he killed her? Doubtful. Those poor kids, the things they've seen!
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This is exactly what I think. The egotist whose life is over, he says, will probably be out in 10 years with good behavior (At least in WA it would be like it) - and what about his kids' lives???!!
 
I hope he gets longer: his daughters shouldn't have to deal with him in their adult lives and after they have kids.
 
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