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So, I have narrowed the bands I like to these two, but not sure which one to get. I like the style and uniqueness of the MM, but I have concerns about the setting covering too much of the sides of the diamond.

I really like the Supbercert Tiff. Replica but have concerns about everybody asking her, "oh, that''s beautiful, is that from Tiffany''s?" Does everyone think that will be an issue? I think the Tiff. Replicas show off the stone the best in my opinion.

I also saw that someone mentioned that GOG makes a Tiffany replica...I don''t see that anywhere on their site. Does anyone have any pics of this?

Thanks for your input!
 
Unless you run into a PriceScope member, I think it is extremely unlikely that anyone else would even think to ask if the setting was from Tiffany''s!
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Most people are familiar with the generic tiffany style setting which is everywhere, and I think relatively few people would recognize the true Tiffany solitaire setting. I think the SuperbCert Tiffany setting is beautiful. I love MM settings, but I also do not like the prominent prong tips (which ultimately led me to get my setting from Leon).
 
Do you have pic of your setting, so I can see? My issue with the MM was that the design hides most of the side of the stone, which the tiffany style doesn''t. It''s hard to really see from only a photo though.
 
Thanks, Skippy!
 
Date: 5/1/2008 10:19:46 PM
Author: diamondseeker2006
Thanks, Skippy!
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Sure, beautiful ring btw!
 
Date: 5/1/2008 10:20:34 PM
Author: Skippy123

Date: 5/1/2008 10:19:46 PM
Author: diamondseeker2006
Thanks, Skippy!
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Sure, beautiful ring btw!
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Thanks so much!

All of the rings mentioned on this thread were on my list of finalists. It was a very hard decision!
 
These three settings are my all time favorites... MWM Flame, Leon's solitaire and Supercert.... Tough call.

As far as the MWM flame, I have seen it in person, on a .80sh stone and it did cover a little bit more of the stone as I would like, but it look rather delicate in person. Also, the MWM Sunburst is a little "less busy" so I'm throwing that as a fourth option... (as if this wasn't difficult enough). Also, I was told that Mark Morrell would gladly adjust the prongs to be less prominent. I was also told that his workmanship is above impeccable.

If price is a consideration, I got quotes for the Leon, MWM flame and Supercert replica ( per their website). The Flame was a tad more expensive. Supercert is the cheapest and Leon came right down at the middle. They were all under $2,000 in platinum and within $200 -$300 from each other. Prices were given based on my size stone (.82) so the price will go up if you have a larger stone.

If I could do it all over again, I would certainly go for the Leon. His whole technique is flawless and per his website it is geared towards creating a setting that will showcase the diamond with the least intrusion. I am a tad biased as I drool over every time I see diamondseeker's beauty.

These are all winners and you cannot go wrong with either of them. Good luck!
 
About GOG and a tiffany replica... I don''t know for sure but GOG told me they offer the MWM Flame as an option because they don''t have a tiff replica. Maybe they could offer a custom job.
 
I have seen a few SC replicas on here as well as owning one and absolutely love them!!!
 
Date: 5/1/2008 10:20:34 PM
Author: angeline
Here''s another thread discussing the same question:

Flame vs Superbcert Tiffany Replica
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We must have similar taste!!! I ended up choosing the Superbcert Replica. Ultimately I knew that one day I would either upgrade the stone or want to change the setting (maybe Michael B Lace-my dream ring!!! Or a 3-stone Leon with baguettes) also my dream!!!), and the Flame was more expensive. Also diamondseeker gave me some things to consider (thank you ds) the flame does sit very low!!! I love my setting-it is very delicate and it show cases the diamond perfectly.
 
Thanks everyone for your input. I just came across the James Allen 6 prong to add to the confusion! That looks nice too, but I think the SC is a tad nicer. If I''m spending a lot on a stone, I would rather showcase it than hide its brilliance with the setting.
 
Date: 5/2/2008 3:27:07 PM
Author: Kasey3
Date: 5/1/2008 10:20:34 PM

Author: angeline

Here''s another thread discussing the same question:


Flame vs Superbcert Tiffany Replica
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We must have similar taste!!! I ended up choosing the Superbcert Replica. Ultimately I knew that one day I would either upgrade the stone or want to change the setting (maybe Michael B Lace-my dream ring!!! Or a 3-stone Leon with baguettes) also my dream!!!), and the Flame was more expensive. Also diamondseeker gave me some things to consider (thank you ds) the flame does sit very low!!! I love my setting-it is very delicate and it show cases the diamond perfectly.
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*koff* *koff* and the pics are where????
 
I'm totally on the same page as DiamondSeeker! I have a Superbcert tiffany replica and I'm very happy with it! Very few people have ever asked me if it's from Tiffany. Most people can't tell ANY 6 prong settings apart. The only ppl who've made comments are Tiffany owners and Tiffany sales people all of whom automatically assume I bought it from Tiff. I am not bothered at all by the comments. It really just tells me my setting is well made.
I absolutely LOVE MM and Leon pieces but I'm an upgrade gal so I would only have one made IF i knew that it was my last and final stone. As for the Flame, it really depends on the size of your stone and how anal you are about prong tips. The tips are quite noticeable(as they need to be to showcase the hearts) and will cover up too much of a small stone. Even with my current setting, I still think the prong tips are a tad big. The actual tiffany ones are fairly noticeable as well.
As for quality, MMs will be definitely be a notch above the Superbcert replica. I'm not saying Superbcert is in anyway low quality, it blows most settings out of the water! But for example, the prongs will be slightly more fluid and better polished on a MM, which I have seen in person. Let us know what you decide on!

Here's the link to my setting:
https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/heres-my-upgrade.49246/
 
Date: 5/2/2008 3:27:07 PM
Author: Kasey3

Date: 5/1/2008 10:20:34 PM
Author: angeline
Here''s another thread discussing the same question:

Flame vs Superbcert Tiffany Replica
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We must have similar taste!!! I ended up choosing the Superbcert Replica. Ultimately I knew that one day I would either upgrade the stone or want to change the setting (maybe Michael B Lace-my dream ring!!! Or a 3-stone Leon with baguettes) also my dream!!!), and the Flame was more expensive. Also diamondseeker gave me some things to consider (thank you ds) the flame does sit very low!!! I love my setting-it is very delicate and it show cases the diamond perfectly.
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I''m so glad if something I said was helpful to you in your decision! That is a gorgeous setting and I still love it!
 
Date: 5/2/2008 8:37:05 PM
Author: CareBear
I''m totally on the same page as DiamondSeeker! I have a Superbcert tiffany replica and I''m very happy with it! Very few people have ever asked me if it''s from Tiffany. Most people can''t tell ANY 6 prong settings apart. The only ppl who''ve made comments are Tiffany owners and Tiffany sales people all of whom automatically assume I bought it from Tiff. I am not bothered at all by the comments. It really just tells me my setting is well made.
I absolutely LOVE MM and Leon pieces but I''m an upgrade gal so I would only have one made IF i knew that it was my last and final stone. As for the Flame, it really depends on the size of your stone and how anal you are about prong tips. The tips are quite noticeable(as they need to be to showcase the hearts) and will cover up too much of a small stone. Even with my current setting, I still think the prong tips are a tad big. The actual tiffany ones are fairly noticeable as well.
As for quality, MMs will be definitely be a notch above the Superbcert replica. I''m not saying Superbcert is in anyway low quality, it blows most settings out of the water! But for example, the prongs will be slightly more fluid and better polished on a MM, which I have seen in person. Let us know what you decide on!

Here''s the link to my setting:
https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/heres-my-upgrade.49246/
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Hey, CareBear! You haven''t been around very much lately! It''s good to see you!
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Date: 5/2/2008 9:23:03 PM
Author: diamondseeker2006

Date: 5/2/2008 8:37:05 PM
Author: CareBear
I''m totally on the same page as DiamondSeeker! I have a Superbcert tiffany replica and I''m very happy with it! Very few people have ever asked me if it''s from Tiffany. Most people can''t tell ANY 6 prong settings apart. The only ppl who''ve made comments are Tiffany owners and Tiffany sales people all of whom automatically assume I bought it from Tiff. I am not bothered at all by the comments. It really just tells me my setting is well made.
I absolutely LOVE MM and Leon pieces but I''m an upgrade gal so I would only have one made IF i knew that it was my last and final stone. As for the Flame, it really depends on the size of your stone and how anal you are about prong tips. The tips are quite noticeable(as they need to be to showcase the hearts) and will cover up too much of a small stone. Even with my current setting, I still think the prong tips are a tad big. The actual tiffany ones are fairly noticeable as well.
As for quality, MMs will be definitely be a notch above the Superbcert replica. I''m not saying Superbcert is in anyway low quality, it blows most settings out of the water! But for example, the prongs will be slightly more fluid and better polished on a MM, which I have seen in person. Let us know what you decide on!

Here''s the link to my setting:
https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/heres-my-upgrade.49246/
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Hey, CareBear! You haven''t been around very much lately! It''s good to see you!
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Diamondseeker, I''ve been checking PS regularly, mainly to drool over new bling. Just haven''t been posting as often. LOVE your setting btw!
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CareBear, thanks for your calming comments. The stone size I''m considering is in the 1.3-1.36 range. Do you think that is too small for the MM Flame to be worth it? The only doubts I have about the MM is that the design will cover up the sides of the stone, whereas the tiff. rep. is open so light can get in/out. Should I be concerned about this??

How big was your stone?
 
Date: 5/2/2008 7:20:42 PM
Author: angeline

Date: 5/2/2008 3:27:07 PM
Author: Kasey3

Date: 5/1/2008 10:20:34 PM

Author: angeline

Here''s another thread discussing the same question:


Flame vs Superbcert Tiffany Replica
Click to expand...
We must have similar taste!!! I ended up choosing the Superbcert Replica. Ultimately I knew that one day I would either upgrade the stone or want to change the setting (maybe Michael B Lace-my dream ring!!! Or a 3-stone Leon with baguettes) also my dream!!!), and the Flame was more expensive. Also diamondseeker gave me some things to consider (thank you ds) the flame does sit very low!!! I love my setting-it is very delicate and it show cases the diamond perfectly.
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*koff* *koff* and the pics are where????
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I will post soon-I have a few more weeks of craziness at work and then I will have plenty of time for a photo shoot-I really need to practice my skills!!!
 
The flame is gorgeous and unqiue and incredible well-made. While the tiffany setting is classic, in my opinion it looks like what everyone else has.
 
personally, i would get the flame hands down. yes, there is something classic and fluid in the tiff/SC design and you cannot go wrong with it, but the flame to me just has that little something extra to make it amazing. not to mention MWM''s work seems so meticulous, which for me is a huge plus. i believe we''ve seen some diamonds in the size you are considering set into the flame and it was a perfect match. MWM will make it all proportional to your particular stone anyway.

i understand your concern about missing out on seeing the pavillion and culet (i like that view as well!) but the flame''s design is just so.... i don''t know, romantic, that in this particular case it would be worth it. as far as the ''closed'' sides of the flame affecting your diamond''s light performance, so long as you are getting an ideal cut stone all the light will return out the top of the diamond. in other words, you don''t need light to get in at the sides to help your diamond be more beautiful. that question has been brought up a few times, a search might help you learn more and ease any concerns you have about that.

some others have also suggested leon mege, and i just wanted to second/third/fourth that option. MWM and leon just make spectacular, meticulous, liquid, beautifully proportioned to-die-for-ness (in my humble opinion).
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have fun deciding, can''t wait to see what you end up with!
 
Date: 5/3/2008 8:12:38 AM
Author: smooleys
CareBear, thanks for your calming comments. The stone size I'm considering is in the 1.3-1.36 range. Do you think that is too small for the MM Flame to be worth it? The only doubts I have about the MM is that the design will cover up the sides of the stone, whereas the tiff. rep. is open so light can get in/out. Should I be concerned about this??

How big was your stone?
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I'm not sure if you saw this thread already. It's a 1.28 ACA set in the Flame.
https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/mark-morrell-flame-with-whiteflash-1-28-ct-round.59264/

The price ratio between a 1.3ish stone and the Flame is significant enough that I wouldn't say it's a better deal to put more money towards the stone. Whether or not it's really worth it depends on if your fiance is going to want to upgrade in the near future. I don't think you can just swap out the head to fit a bigger stone on a piece like the Flame. You would need to get a new setting altogether.

As for the Flame covering up too much of side of the stone, it's not going to make a different in the light return of the stone. It really depends on if you want to be able to see the side. Some people want the pavilion and even the culet to be visible. I personally don't care either way.

My stone is a 2.1ct.
 
Thx! I really like the way it looks. For some reason, I couldn''t reply to her thread. I had a question about whether the box she showed with the ring came from MM or WF or neither.
 
Date: 5/2/2008 3:27:07 PM
Author: Kasey3
We must have similar taste!!! I ended up choosing the Superbcert Replica. Ultimately I knew that one day I would either upgrade the stone or want to change the setting (maybe Michael B Lace-my dream ring!!! Or a 3-stone Leon with baguettes) also my dream!!!), and the Flame was more expensive. Also diamondseeker gave me some things to consider (thank you ds) the flame does sit very low!!! I love my setting-it is very delicate and it show cases the diamond perfectly.
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You have one too? I haven't seen pictures?!

BTW, OP search my U/N... Plenty of pics of the SC Tiffany replica which is of exceptional quality... Also, you may want to consider what you want to do for the wedding band when choosing the e-ring... Look at the different styles that go with the different rings, etc...

ETA:

Pics of SC with eternity band:
https://www.pricescope.com/forum/show-me-the-ring/tiffany-co-2-86-tcw-shared-prong-eternity-band-t83307.html

Pics at the bottom of the page:
https://www.pricescope.com/forum/show-me-the-ring/just-got-my-fiances-engagement-ring-back-had-the-setting-changed-to-superbcert-s-tiffany-replica-t57558-30.html
 
Date: 5/2/2008 8:37:05 PM
Author: CareBear
I''m totally on the same page as DiamondSeeker! I have a Superbcert tiffany replica and I''m very happy with it! Very few people have ever asked me if it''s from Tiffany. Most people can''t tell ANY 6 prong settings apart. The only ppl who''ve made comments are Tiffany owners and Tiffany sales people all of whom automatically assume I bought it from Tiff. I am not bothered at all by the comments. It really just tells me my setting is well made.
I absolutely LOVE MM and Leon pieces but I''m an upgrade gal so I would only have one made IF i knew that it was my last and final stone. As for the Flame, it really depends on the size of your stone and how anal you are about prong tips. The tips are quite noticeable(as they need to be to showcase the hearts) and will cover up too much of a small stone. Even with my current setting, I still think the prong tips are a tad big. The actual tiffany ones are fairly noticeable as well.
As for quality, MMs will be definitely be a notch above the Superbcert replica. I''m not saying Superbcert is in anyway low quality, it blows most settings out of the water! But for example, the prongs will be slightly more fluid and better polished on a MM, which I have seen in person. Let us know what you decide on!

Here''s the link to my setting:
https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/heres-my-upgrade.49246/
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CareBear, I somehow just discovered your SC ring... Is that the SC eternity band with it as well? Mine has the same prongs as yours I think, so they must have permanently chanegd it since you had yours done in 06?
 
Date: 5/4/2008 11:32:54 AM
Author: sna77

Date: 5/2/2008 8:37:05 PM
Author: CareBear
I''m totally on the same page as DiamondSeeker! I have a Superbcert tiffany replica and I''m very happy with it! Very few people have ever asked me if it''s from Tiffany. Most people can''t tell ANY 6 prong settings apart. The only ppl who''ve made comments are Tiffany owners and Tiffany sales people all of whom automatically assume I bought it from Tiff. I am not bothered at all by the comments. It really just tells me my setting is well made.
I absolutely LOVE MM and Leon pieces but I''m an upgrade gal so I would only have one made IF i knew that it was my last and final stone. As for the Flame, it really depends on the size of your stone and how anal you are about prong tips. The tips are quite noticeable(as they need to be to showcase the hearts) and will cover up too much of a small stone. Even with my current setting, I still think the prong tips are a tad big. The actual tiffany ones are fairly noticeable as well.
As for quality, MMs will be definitely be a notch above the Superbcert replica. I''m not saying Superbcert is in anyway low quality, it blows most settings out of the water! But for example, the prongs will be slightly more fluid and better polished on a MM, which I have seen in person. Let us know what you decide on!

Here''s the link to my setting:
https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/heres-my-upgrade.49246/
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CareBear, I somehow just discovered your SC ring... Is that the SC eternity band with it as well? Mine has the same prongs as yours I think, so they must have permanently chanegd it since you had yours done in 06?
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sna77, I noticed that we have the same prongs too! I guess they might have changed it on all their tiff settings since. Much better than their original prongs!
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The eternity band is from Signed Pieces, which has also been upgraded since. I wish I could have kept it though. It stones were set extremely low and sat almost flush with the ering. But I couldn''t justify the cost of multiple eternity bands. Btw, I love you fiance''s ering + eternity band! The basket setting is GORGEOUS!!!
 
Date: 5/4/2008 7:32:11 PM
Author: CareBear

sna77, I noticed that we have the same prongs too! I guess they might have changed it on all their tiff settings since. Much better than their original prongs!
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The eternity band is from Signed Pieces, which has also been upgraded since. I wish I could have kept it though. It stones were set extremely low and sat almost flush with the ering. But I couldn''t justify the cost of multiple eternity bands. Btw, I love you fiance''s ering + eternity band! The basket setting is GORGEOUS!!!
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Thanks! I think my FI may be more excited about getting her wedding band than about the wedding. j/k... ;)

What did you end up going with for a wedding band? Also, what did you do with your first stone? Make a pendant out of it or RHR?
 
Date: 5/4/2008 8:54:20 PM
Author: sna77

Thanks! I think my FI may be more excited about getting her wedding band than about the wedding. j/k... ;)

What did you end up going with for a wedding band? Also, what did you do with your first stone? Make a pendant out of it or RHR?
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I have a matching knife-edge platinum band from Tiff that I wear from time to time. Most of the time I wear only my e-ring. It''s just more comfortable that way since I have short fingers that expands up a full size in hot tempurature. My original stone was traded in for the upgrade.
 
Have you looked at the "Nova"
http://www.ringlock.com/Wire%20sol.html#Nova Allan Creates makes his platinum all by hand, he never casts his 96 % platinum & 4% ruthenium, and that way he makes very strong delicate rings and his "Nova" I see is posted at $985.00 at $1454.00 platinum an ounce.
 
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