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helpneededplz

Rough_Rock
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Hi everyone,

I want to say that everyone here is amazing how they help everyone and your knowledge of diamonds is unbelievable lol. I'm a newbie when it comes to diamonds but want to propose to my gf here soon. We been together about 5 years and have a trip coming up on May 1th where I believe she would be surprised if I did even though she knows its coming soon. So first question is would it be possible to have an e-ring sent to me by May 11th? Sorry for procrastinating but we have a vacation planned in late September and I found out thats when she is sure I am proposing and I was planning on it since we will be in the bahamas but I also want to surprise her as much as I can, and we will be on a beach the weekend of May 11th so I see it as a great oppurtunity. Sorry for blabbing lol.

I have a good idea of what she likes, she first saw her friends 1.4 ct RB solitaire and loved it, but then saw a RB halo and loved it even more and I caught her looking at them online, and with my budget I think a Halo will be the way to go since it makes the diamond look bigger and I think it looks great. Now my budget and as great as I would have hoped, $3800 total, so I am looking for a .9ish??? RB with a diameter of 6.2mm, I was hoping the cut is at least very good and be eye clean. I seen some J color diamonds and they all look white to me so I think I can go as low as J to save some money.

Here is the setting I love and seen her looking at numerous times.
http://www.bluenile.com/floating-halo-diamond-engagement-ring-white-gold_21446

There is also the halo micropave from b2cjewels that she likes.

That or something really similar to that is what I am aiming for, thin band halo with diamonds on the sides and I dont like when the center stones pokes out too much like some do. That would leave around $2600 for the stone itself, I know its a crunch that is why I came here for help, I know if you can;t do it nobody can,lol. So would it be possible to have this at my home by May11th? If not, I guess I would hae to wait to september, sigh lol. Oh and I am working 12 hrs tonight and tomrrow so I really wont even be able to sit down to purchase this until Tuesday, and I will be doing it through bankwire as I see you get a small discount. Does anyone have any experience with how to do that? DO I use my routing number from my bank and would I have to tell the bank first since i don't normally make purchases over a few hundred dollars? Thanks again for any help!
 
I really don't think you are going to be able to get a well cut diamond from a reputable lab for $2,600 that is 0.9ct / 6.2mm. 0.8ct *maybe*... for instance this J SI2 on BN for $2599.00 But we don't know if it is eye-clean.

http://www.bluenile.com/diamond-search?pt=sig&filter_id=0#diamonds_pid=LD02460970

DON'T sacrifice cut quality; a well cut stone will face up whiter and larger than a poorly cut one. And stay away from labs other then AGS and GIA (EGL for instance is notoriously lenient on grading, and you won't be getting a "deal").
 
Your other option is to get a pretty temp ring to propose with (sterling silver, cz) and then pick out the ring together after your vacation.
 
I love the idea of proposing in May and yes it can be done by one of the vendors I am certain! But I have to agree with ecf, you will have to come down in your expectations for a diamond.
 
Have you considered IDJ? They seem to be able to work miracles with any budget!
Here is a link to a Henry Daussi design that is $1850 - more than your BN option but could have better pave stones:
http://idjewelryonline.com/product_info.php?cPath=42_132&products_id=17179&cType=ER
this one has a vintage look to it and a lovely undermount surprise diamond
http://idjewelryonline.com/product_info.php?cPath=42_132&products_id=14698&cType=ER

Set with a H, SI1, ideal cut, EX/EX for $2582
http://idjewelryonline.com/diamond_details1.php?id=37426725&shape=B&pricefrom=0&priceto=2600&caratfrom=0.70&caratto=.89&colorfrom=G&colorto=H&clarfrom=VS2&clarto=SI1&polish=VG&cert=GIA&symmetry=VG&depthfrom=&depthto=&tablefrom=&tableto=&cut=Array&item_id=

Just a suggestion....
 
Blue Nile has several .75 I SI1's, GIA Excellent cut for right under $2600.

But I like the Good Old Gold .79 H if they confirm that it is eyeclean. They have tons of settings not on their website and will be able to find you a halo setting.
 
Thanks for all the different ideas and suggestions so far everyone!

I am at work posting from my phone so sry for any misspelling. Early Tuesday morning I will be sitting in front of the computer and not getting up until I make a purchase, Im really just looking for the best deal in my range. And as far as my budget go it will probably not be going much higher if I did decide to wait as my gf would not want me to spend a whole lot of money on an e-ring anyways, I just would like to do it in May for the surprise factor. The suggestjons so far are great and I will have to check with G.O.G. to see if they can get me a setting like the floating halo from Bluenile, for some reason I am really set on that and the only thing stopping me is that I cant buy the setting individually and I cant see the stones so I would have to probably buy a VS2 to be sure its eye clean.

So if anyone is bored keep the suggestions coming they are great! Lol thank you
 
Your best bet is to call GOG Tues. am and tell them your budget and timeline and tell them you need a 14k white gold halo. They can look at the H stone for you and perhaps go pick up some others. There are probably many setting options. I don't like SI2 a lot of times, but that one appears to have white twining wisps that are usually very eye clean. So that would get you to a higher color than if you went to SI1 or VS2.
 
helpneededplz|1335136932|3178031 said:
Thanks for all the different ideas and suggestions so far everyone!

I am at work posting from my phone so sry for any misspelling. Early Tuesday morning I will be sitting in front of the computer and not getting up until I make a purchase, Im really just looking for the best deal in my range. And as far as my budget go it will probably not be going much higher if I did decide to wait as my gf would not want me to spend a whole lot of money on an e-ring anyways, I just would like to do it in May for the surprise factor. The suggestjons so far are great and I will have to check with G.O.G. to see if they can get me a setting like the floating halo from Bluenile, for some reason I am really set on that and the only thing stopping me is that I cant buy the setting individually and I cant see the stones so I would have to probably buy a VS2 to be sure its eye clean.

So if anyone is bored keep the suggestions coming they are great! Lol thank you
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GOG can easily get you something like that. They carry Gabriel &Co at about a 20% discount off MSRP:
http://www.gabrielny.com/engaged/styles?category=ER&style=Halo

However, most ring manufacturers take at least a few weeks to customize the setting to your stone size - so definitely let them know your deadline date and they can suggest something they may have in stock. It's a pretty common/popular look.
 
Ok I will contact G.O.G. and ID jewelry tues am and see if they can help. In the meantime I found a stone searching from my phone

Its a .85, J, VS1
6.08x6.09x3.73
Ex cut. Vg polish ex sym
Depth 61.2
Table 58
Medium to slightly thick
Flour none
The inclusions are needle and twinning wisp

This stone is within my budget and stood out to me, dont want to post the link in case its good and someone steals it lol

Any opinions on those stats? Thanks
 
Is it a GIA or AGS stone?

Do you have the specs for the Crown, Pavilion, and Girdle?

If you have the specs, you can run the HCA tool - https://www.pricescope.com/tools/hca - it is a tool of elimination - basically any score under 2 has eliminated known poor performers - this is helpful if you cannot examine the stone in person - but if you have IdealScope and/or Aset image(s) for the stone, the HCA tool is not really necessary. You can also run the AGA cut class tool found here - https://www.pricescope.com/tools/AGA_NAJA_Cut_Class_Grader

At VS1 clarity, you do not need to worry about eye-visible inclusions.
 
Thanks for showing me that tool! It is GIA. I put the numbers in and it came back as exactly 2.0. It said very good buy if the price is right. If the price is 2500 would this be right?
 
Are there pictures of the stone? I wouldn't deal with a drop shipper in this circumstance. You need someone who can assess the stone for you and show you setting options. I would decide on one jeweler and then call them and see what they can do.
 
I will see if i can get photos, from what I understand it shouldnt be a problem. One other thing I dont think i ever updated a number in the HCA, I noticed it and fixed it and now it is coming back at 1.2??? Is this a must buy for my budget? Im trying to figure out why it is priced so cheap, I know the J color would bring the price down some but still seems underpriced, does that mean there has to be something else going on? A VS1 would always be eye clean correct? It is from a vendor that a friend of mine used, I have never seen it mentioned on this site and never heard of it until my friend told me. And google reviews are all great. It is GIA certified. I really dont know a whole lot all I understand is GIA is reliable if someone could tell me what else I should be wary of I would appreciate it a lot. Otherwise I believe Im going to pull the trigger.
 
Okay, I ran a diamond search in PS with your stone's specs, and I believe your stone came up - it was listed at (drop shipper) and priced at just under $2500 - I pulled the GIA cert and ran the HCA - it came up 2.0 - Very Good - Worth Buying if the Price is Right (Excellent for Light Return, and Very Goods for Fire, Scintillation, and Spread). I ran the AGA tool and it scored 1A.

Based on the comps I saw on the PS diamond search, I think it is priced competitively - if the vendor has a rock-solid return policy (meaning you have say 30 days to return it for any reason), it might be worthwhile to check it out in person.

Alternately, you could contact ID Jewelry and ask for Yekutiel, tell him you are a PSer, explain your time deadline, and request that he pull this diamond for you and give you his opinion of the stone and send you some pics... if he gives it a thumbs' up he could even have it set for you and ship it to you so you make your deadline. Since you are under time constraints, I do think if you aren't going with a vendor that offers pictures and Idealscope/Aset images, etc., it would be sensible for you to have Yekutiel check the stone out for you - And, Yekutiel will price-match the lowest price for a stone.

Good Luck!

eta - the GIA color slot for "J" is quite a bit wider than the color slots for colorless and near-colorless - this means you can have a high J (meaning one close to a I color), and a low J (meaning one close to a K color) - and of course Js all in-between there... so if you do have Yekutiel pull the stone, you may want to ask him if the J is a high or low J - a high J will have a whiter appearance in comparison to a low J.
 
marymm|1335192956|3178425 said:
Okay, I ran a diamond search in PS with your stone's specs, and I believe your stone came up - it was listed at (drop shipper) and priced at just under $2500 - I pulled the GIA cert and ran the HCA - it came up 2.0 - Very Good - Worth Buying if the Price is Right (Excellent for Light Return, and Very Goods for Fire, Scintillation, and Spread). I ran the AGA tool and it scored 1A.

Based on the comps I saw on the PS diamond search, I think it is priced competitively - if the vendor has a rock-solid return policy (meaning you have say 30 days to return it for any reason), it might be worthwhile to check it out in person.

Alternately, you could contact ID Jewelry and ask for Yekutiel, tell him you are a PSer, explain your time deadline, and request that he pull this diamond for you and give you his opinion of the stone and send you some pics... if he gives it a thumbs' up he could even have it set for you and ship it to you so you make your deadline. Since you are under time constraints, I do think if you aren't going with a vendor that offers pictures and Idealscope/Aset images, etc., it would be sensible for you to have Yekutiel check the stone out for you - And, Yekutiel will price-match the lowest price for a stone.

Good Luck!

eta - the GIA color slot for "J" is quite a bit wider than the color slots for colorless and near-colorless - this means you can have a high J (meaning one close to a I color), and a low J (meaning one close to a K color) - and of course Js all in-between there... so if you do have Yekutiel pull the stone, you may want to ask him if the J is a high or low J - a high J will have a whiter appearance in comparison to a low J.
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I think marymm has a perfectly set out plan for you. I highly recommend IDJ as do many others on the board.
 
Just an update.. talked to Yuketiel from idj and told him the stone I was interested in. He called back quickly and said buy this stone right now saying it was a great stone at a great price, is this normal even though he hasn't seen it? He is helping me with the aetting though. Im just kind of confused because of people saying I should see images of the stone first. Anyways, the stone is overseas and they wont now if its availae until tomorrow, but if it is available its on hold. Any advice on where to go now? And thank you marymm for the suggestion.
 
helpneededplz|1335297893|3179637 said:
Just an update.. talked to Yuketiel from idj and told him the stone I was interested in. He called back quickly and said buy this stone right now saying it was a great stone at a great price, is this normal even though he hasn't seen it? He is helping me with the aetting though. Im just kind of confused because of people saying I should see images of the stone first. Anyways, the stone is overseas and they wont now if its availae until tomorrow, but if it is available its on hold. Any advice on where to go now? And thank you marymm for the suggestion.
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What is the return policy and can he get images once it comes in from overseas?
 
Great that you've had a chat with Yekutiel. If this stone is not available, could he find you another similar stone? He now knows what you are looking for and your deadline as well as your budget. I think it would be reasonable to ask him to find you a similar stone - specs/quality/pricing. We all read wonderful things about what IDJ can pull together! If you are comfortable with them, why not look at options.... but that's only if this one isn't available.

Seems like the May 11th deadline is achievable, so give it the day and don't worry about it too much. They will pull thru for you!
 
Ok just to keep everyone posted who is interested. Yekuteil said that stone is priced under market value and is a great deal, saying I would be a fool not to buy it. That actually surprised me since I would think he would want me to buy from him. Anyways the stone is on hold and I plan to buy tomorrow morning, and they do have a 30-day return policy. But here is my question. Yekutiel says he has better setting options for me and he quoted me a great price and showed me actual pictures of the settings. He wants me to have the company where I would buy tge stone to send it to Yekuteil, he says they are right around the corner from him and that they work like that all the time. I'll be honest it did sound a little fishy to me but then again I have no idea how this works, so if someone with experience could reassure me that would be great!

If I do that he saidhe will inspect the stone, make sure it checks out then set it and send it to me within a couple of days. Now, what if i had a problem with the stone? Since he set it would I not be able to return it to the original company?

Sorry for any typos i am typing on my phone. Also, does anyone have a picture or comparison to what a 6.1mm diameter stone would look like? Thank you
 
From what I've read on PS, that is a standard type arrangement - purchase diamond from "A" and setting from "B" - seems as tho they work it out between themselves on a regular basis. My info is from reading this forum, not from any experience.

Ask the original diamond seller what their upgrade policy is. I would assume where you purchase the stone from should honour any upgrade, not who it is set by.
 
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