Michael Jackson rushed to the hospital.....

[trillionaire]

Thriller

Man in the Mirror ... you can really FEEL what he meant to his fans and so many around the world!

 

[Kaleigh]

Date: 6/25/2009 6:57:34 PM
Author: Linda W

Date: 6/25/2009 6:50:41 PM
Author: FrekeChild
What a lovely quote AGBF.


My all-time favorite video was one of his....Earth Song

Oh YES Liz, I do love that one too.

Me too, love that song.

 

[somethingshiny]

I hadn''t heard. Regardless of his personal choices, he was an amazing musician/dancer/etc and was a great inspiration in music.

 

[jcrow]

such a sad, sad day.

 

[ams0124]

Just watched a video clip on MSN that was talking about how his management team said he was in great health and had just undergone a 4 hour physical in preparation for his concert dates in London and everything checked out ok...This sounds like some sort of drug overdose or lethal combination of meds right?

 

[KimberlyH]

I''ve clearly caused some upset/unrest is sharing my thoughts/opinion. As I said, his music changed the music world. I know we don''t know for a fact he molested anyone, but that he paid an undisclosed amount to a family of an accuser certainly does leave one at least suspicious; that pared with what he''s shown of himself to the world (we have no idea what goes on behind closed doors in anyones'' life) and the lack of effect he''s truly had on my life (what he''s done hasn''t changed me in any way, and I''m not sure how it''s changed anyone else, with the exception of those who know him personally and people have been touched by his music in exceptional ways, not the common fan, but a person whose life has been altered because of him or his music) leave me feeling no grief regarding his death, and I am certainly not the only person who feels this way. My position is not welcome in this thread, so I''ll bow out.

 

[Sha]

So sad and surreal...

I think the younger folk/new generation probably see him as more of a child molester/weirdo, but those of who grew up in the 70's and 80's know him as THE GREATEST ENTERTAINER EVER!!! I was in love with Michael Jackson growing up (he was so darned handsome in the 70's and 80's too..

) - and so were all of my friends. Me and my brothers loved his songs and videos and movies - and had all his music too. He was a legend!! So so talented!! He had the most beautiful voice and the dancing ability to go with it. NO ONE could dance like Micheal Jackson!! All of this young pop music stars - Ne-Yo, Justin Timberlake, Chris Brown - their moves are patterned off of him! The music world owes so much to Michael Jackson - even if this generation doesn't know it.

It's unfortunate the recent allegations have overshadowed his musical genius.

I don't believe he really is a child molester. I think that he likes being around young children (which seems weird to many) because they bring back the innocence and joie de vivre that he missed out on growing up. If you've seen the Jackson movie or read about his life - you'd know that he never really got to enjoy his childhood because of how much their father pushed them to perform. Their father was very strict with them, and not the most loving person either. Apparently, he also used to tell them that they had big noses and were ugly? I remember reading that somewhere. If you notice - quite a few of the Jacksons, including Janet, have had rhinoplasty to make their noses smaller. Michael Jackson, I think, had the most issues with his appearance, hence his numerous surgeries - and I'm sure this stems from his childhood. I think he's had a rough life - and there's a lot more to him than people see. I also think he was a very caring person who was misunderstood by many. That's just my opinion.

 

[isaku5]

Date: 6/25/2009 6:47:32 PM
Author: Linda W
We loved the Thriller Video!!!!!

Oh, yes we did! Whille I won''t debate his personal life, professionally he was an icon.

So very sad

 

[lindsaylove]

Date: 6/25/2009 7:12:01 PM
Author: KimberlyH
I''ve clearly caused some upset/unrest is sharing my thoughts/opinion. As I said, his music changed the music world. I know we don''t know for a fact he molested anyone, but that he paid an undisclosed amount to a family of an accuser certainly does leave one at least suspicious; that pared with what he''s shown of himself to the world (we have no idea what goes on behind closed doors in anyones'' life) and the lack of effect he''s truly had on my life (what he''s done hasn''t changed me in any way, and I''m not sure how it''s changed anyone else, with the exception of those who know him personally and people have been touched by his music in exceptional ways, not the common fan, but a person whose life has been altered because of him or his music) leave me feeling no grief regarding his death, and I am certainly not the only person who feels this way. My position is not welcome in this thread, so I''ll bow out.

I guess I just don''t see the point of sharing these "thoughts/opinions" in a thread where people are essentially mourning his death. I wouldn''t say that because of him my life was altered in some exceptional, profound way, but that doesn''t mean that I can''t feel for him as a human being who struggled throughout his life and was an icon and musical legend to boot. He is a part of American history.

His family and millions of his fans are hurting right now, so I guess he did touch a lot of lives.

 

[LtlFirecracker]

Date: 6/25/2009 7:11:56 PM
Author: ams0124
Just watched a video clip on MSN that was talking about how his management team said he was in great health and had just undergone a 4 hour physical in preparation for his concert dates in London and everything checked out ok...This sounds like some sort of drug overdose or lethal combination of meds right?

That is on the top of my list, but I don't know anymore than you do. If he was really 90lbs either he had a chronic disease or was abusing substances (or had an eating disorder that caused his potassium to become abnormal). The amphetamines are what is popping in my head. They are performance enhancers, appetite suppressants, and can cause cardiac arrest (I think a NSCAR driver was caught combining adderall and sufadad to enhance his driving). I am not saying it has to be something he actively did, it could have been totally accidental for many reasons. Cocaine is famous for causing cardiac arrest, but there are many prescription drugs that could do it as well, and it could have been a total accident. He could have been following instructions perfectly and it still could have happened. Either way, I see mental health problems as a disease just like any other. And I see it as a disease that kills. I would not pass judgement on him if his mental health problems were the cause of his death.

This whole thing is really sad to me, and I respect his music. Man in The Mirror is one of my favorite songs.

 

[Sha]

Date: 6/25/2009 6:50:41 PM
Author: FrekeChild
What a lovely quote AGBF.

My all-time favorite video was one of his....Earth Song

Yeah, I love that one too. So many great songs... Some of my favourites are 'Ben' (from Jackson 5 days), Billie Jean, Beat It, Thriller, Man in the Mirror, Liberian Girl, Smooth Criminal....

 

[mysterylover]

Sadly, the man who died today wasn''t the entertainer we all knew as Michael Jackson. He had long since checked out of Neverland and into LaLa Land.

The waste of his talent was a horrible shame. The man he became was shameful horror.

What a dismal (and unsurprising) end for someone who had once been the world''s most popular musical entertainer.

 

[packrat]

I had to call my mom and tell her. Mom''s got the Thriller album and we used to rock out in the basement to it when I was younger. I was quite sure back then that I would marry him.

So sad.

 

[partgypsy]

He wasn''t a perfect person, I feel like he was a bit of a tortured soul in fact, but it makes me feel sad.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_hz2am90Hk&feature=channel

(Dont stop)

 

[Sha]

Date: 6/25/2009 7:27:45 PM
Author: Orchid14

Date: 6/25/2009 7:12:01 PM
Author: KimberlyH
I''ve clearly caused some upset/unrest is sharing my thoughts/opinion. As I said, his music changed the music world. I know we don''t know for a fact he molested anyone, but that he paid an undisclosed amount to a family of an accuser certainly does leave one at least suspicious; that pared with what he''s shown of himself to the world (we have no idea what goes on behind closed doors in anyones'' life) and the lack of effect he''s truly had on my life (what he''s done hasn''t changed me in any way, and I''m not sure how it''s changed anyone else, with the exception of those who know him personally and people have been touched by his music in exceptional ways, not the common fan, but a person whose life has been altered because of him or his music) leave me feeling no grief regarding his death, and I am certainly not the only person who feels this way. My position is not welcome in this thread, so I''ll bow out.

I guess I just don''t see the point of sharing these ''thoughts/opinions'' in a thread where people are essentially mourning his death. I wouldn''t say that because of him my life was altered in some exceptional, profound way, but that doesn''t mean that I can''t feel for him as a human being who struggled throughout his life and was an icon and musical legend to boot. He is a part of American history.

His family and millions of his fans are hurting right now, so I guess he did touch a lot of lives.

Ditto!

 

[RubyCharm]

Date: 6/25/2009 7:40:34 PM
Author: Sha

Date: 6/25/2009 7:27:45 PM

Author: Orchid14

Date: 6/25/2009 7:12:01 PM

Author: KimberlyH

I''ve clearly caused some upset/unrest is sharing my thoughts/opinion. As I said, his music changed the music world. I know we don''t know for a fact he molested anyone, but that he paid an undisclosed amount to a family of an accuser certainly does leave one at least suspicious; that pared with what he''s shown of himself to the world (we have no idea what goes on behind closed doors in anyones'' life) and the lack of effect he''s truly had on my life (what he''s done hasn''t changed me in any way, and I''m not sure how it''s changed anyone else, with the exception of those who know him personally and people have been touched by his music in exceptional ways, not the common fan, but a person whose life has been altered because of him or his music) leave me feeling no grief regarding his death, and I am certainly not the only person who feels this way. My position is not welcome in this thread, so I''ll bow out.

I guess I just don''t see the point of sharing these ''thoughts/opinions'' in a thread where people are essentially mourning his death. I wouldn''t say that because of him my life was altered in some exceptional, profound way, but that doesn''t mean that I can''t feel for him as a human being who struggled throughout his life and was an icon and musical legend to boot. He is a part of American history.


His family and millions of his fans are hurting right now, so I guess he did touch a lot of lives.

Ditto!

Well said!

 

[Italiahaircolor]

Date: 6/25/2009 7:44:09 PM
Author: RubyCharm

Date: 6/25/2009 7:40:34 PM
Author: Sha

Date: 6/25/2009 7:27:45 PM

Author: Orchid14

Date: 6/25/2009 7:12:01 PM

Author: KimberlyH

I''ve clearly caused some upset/unrest is sharing my thoughts/opinion. As I said, his music changed the music world. I know we don''t know for a fact he molested anyone, but that he paid an undisclosed amount to a family of an accuser certainly does leave one at least suspicious; that pared with what he''s shown of himself to the world (we have no idea what goes on behind closed doors in anyones'' life) and the lack of effect he''s truly had on my life (what he''s done hasn''t changed me in any way, and I''m not sure how it''s changed anyone else, with the exception of those who know him personally and people have been touched by his music in exceptional ways, not the common fan, but a person whose life has been altered because of him or his music) leave me feeling no grief regarding his death, and I am certainly not the only person who feels this way. My position is not welcome in this thread, so I''ll bow out.

I guess I just don''t see the point of sharing these ''thoughts/opinions'' in a thread where people are essentially mourning his death. I wouldn''t say that because of him my life was altered in some exceptional, profound way, but that doesn''t mean that I can''t feel for him as a human being who struggled throughout his life and was an icon and musical legend to boot. He is a part of American history.


His family and millions of his fans are hurting right now, so I guess he did touch a lot of lives.

Ditto!

Well said!

...Because at the end of the day, everyone is allowed to acknowledge his passing in their way...good or bad. This is still an online forum, not a memorial site.

Michael Jackson made wonderful music...he was talented and people enjoyed him, those two facts are solid. But something along the way changed. He lead a checkered life.

I hope in his passing, those who need peace will find it...and those who loved him endlessly, will find peace as well knowing he''s no longer hurting--be it physically or psychologically.

 

[lyra]

The MJ album "Thriller" was played during our reception (1983) and it always reminds me of how much fun people were having on the dancefloor during those songs. He was such a gorgeous man before all the plastic surgery. Very talented. When I think of him, I think of our lively wedding reception. It''s sad for me today.

 

[trillionaire]

Date: 6/25/2009 7:34:44 PM
Author: mysterylover
Sadly, the man who died today wasn't the entertainer we all knew as Michael Jackson. He had long since checked out of Neverland and into LaLa Land.

The waste of his talent was a horrible shame. The man he became was shameful horror.

What a dismal (and unsurprising) end for someone who had once been the world's most popular musical entertainer.

I totally disagree! He was about to embark on a 50 date sold out tour, and could have done endless dates I'm sure with the same result. I would still LOVE to have seen him in concert, but I in no way think that I could compete with the die-hard fans that he had in order to get tickets!

His talent was incredible, and inspiring, and if you don't agree, then maybe the memorials and tributes that his life is going to inspire will convince you otherwise. People do far less in their lives without being called wasted talent, and he was relevant for 3 decades, which is no small feat. I still listen to his album that came out in 2001, and it literally gives me chills. I can think of no other performer whose video releases were cause for huge media events on major network TV... Smooth Criminal, Bad... the world literally stopped to take note of what this amazing artist was up to.

This man transcended race, gender, language, sexuality, ideology... and he was a true non-conformist individual. He brought people together.

He is easily the most relevant performer in most people on this forums lifetimes. And will continue to be, until our own eventual deaths.


ETA: Link is MJ's cover of 'Come Together'

 

[Sha]

Date: 6/25/2009 7:55:20 PM
Author: trillionaire

Date: 6/25/2009 7:34:44 PM
Author: mysterylover
Sadly, the man who died today wasn't the entertainer we all knew as Michael Jackson. He had long since checked out of Neverland and into LaLa Land.

The waste of his talent was a horrible shame. The man he became was shameful horror.

What a dismal (and unsurprising) end for someone who had once been the world's most popular musical entertainer.

I totally disagree! He was about to embark on a 50 date sold out tour, and could have done endless dates I'm sure with the same result. I would still LOVE to have seen him in concert, but I in no way think that I could compete with the die-hard fans that he had in order to get tickets!

His talent was incredible, and inspiring, and if you don't agree, then maybe the memorials and tributes that his life is going to inspire will convince you otherwise. People do far less in their lives without being called wasted talent, and he was relevant for 3 decades, which is no small feat. I still listen to his album that came out in 2001, and it literally gives me chills. I can think of no other performer whose video releases were cause for huge media events on major network TV... Smooth Criminal, Bad... the world literally stopped to take note of what this amazing artist was up to.

He is easily the most relevant performer in most people on this forums lifetimes. And will continue to be, until our own eventual deaths.

Totally agree, as well. I wonder how the Tour Promoters are going to compensate the 17, 000 plus people who bought tickets for his upcoming concert?

Here's a link to another video (Ben) if anyone's interested...

Ben - I think he was about 10 at the time

Smooth Criminal (LOVE THIS VIDEO!!)

ETA: Just finished watching Smooth Criminal. Seriously, it's got to be one of the BEST videos ever made!! I love it!! Really shows off his dancing ability.

 

[Kaleigh]

I am waiting for Elizabeth Taylor to make a comment, am sure she is very sad. After all, they both had similar experiences. I know her heart must be breaking. What ever people say about him, he was an icon, he was the King of Pop, and will be greatly missed.

I have to say, I always felt bad for him, but in the end will remember what a great preformer he was and his music will live on forever.

 

[Linda W]

Date: 6/25/2009 7:38:23 PM
Author: packrat
I had to call my mom and tell her. Mom''s got the Thriller album and we used to rock out in the basement to it when I was younger. I was quite sure back then that I would marry him.


So sad.

HA, my daughter and I used to dance to Thriller too. Ummmmm, we still do sometimes.

 

[LaurenThePartier]

Date: 6/25/2009 7:01:15 PM
Author: LtlFirecracker

Date: 6/25/2009 6:54:44 PM
Author: fleur-de-lis

Date: 6/25/2009 6:48:57 PM

Author: Dreamgirl

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Author: LtlFirecracker

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Author: Dreamgirl


This is so sad and tragic. I wonder what happened exactly? Gosh I just still can''t believe it...

I am just guessing....but unless he had a chronic heart condition, my number one guess would be an overdose of a substance (or mixing substances that enhance the effects of each other). Things things can be accidental (but not always). Many drugs can cause abnormal heart rhythms which can result in arrest.

That''s what I was thinking

Well, it might be worth mentioning that he was a 50 year old man who weighed about 90 pounds for the last decade and had long seemed to struggle with health. It''s possible that no bad or affirmative act was required.

True, he could have had an electrolyte abnormality (Potassium abnormalities can cause sudden cardiac arrest). His liver or kidneys could have slowed down and caused a med he was prescribed to build up in the blood (such as older antidepressants), or there could have been something else they are not telling us about that proceeded the cardiac arrest (such as an aortic dissection or blood clot in the lung). It is just that a lot of drugs that people abuse are dangerous because they can cause cardiac arrest (there are other reasons, but that is a big concern when you here someone overdosed on one of these).

Part of me wonders if he wasn''t going through some training, and not-so-legal steroids for his upcoming tour ala Janet. She dropped ~50 lbs. in about 7 weeks and grew a 6 pack out of thin air. Wonder is he was on the same "program".

 

[Linda W]

Date: 6/25/2009 8:03:23 PM
Author: Kaleigh
I am waiting for Elizabeth Taylor to make a comment, am sure she is very sad. After all, they both had similar experiences. I know her heart must be breaking. What ever people say about him, he was an icon, he was the King of Pop, and will be greatly missed.


I have to say, I always felt bad for him, but in the end will remember what a great preformer he was and his music will live on forever.

I agree Lisa. I agree with something Larry King just said too. He said next week all of the Tabloids will be saying horrific things about him, so for today, let''s just remember the gift he brought the world. The gift of his music.

 

[bebe]

No matter what our personal opinions are of the man, he has a place in musical history, he was an incredible performer and artist.

It is sad indeed. I loved Thriller and still enjoy it.

Poor Farrah. I was thinking of her all morning after hearing B. Walters say Farrah may not make it through the day. And then she passed
later. So, so sad.

 

[luckystar112]

Date: 6/25/2009 7:50:22 PM
Author: Italiahaircolor

...Because at the end of the day, everyone is allowed to acknowledge his passing in their way...good or bad. This is still an online forum, not a memorial site.

Sensitivity needs to be projected towards her family and friends during this time...even though it's a safe bet that none of us are directly effected, her loss is still very much real and should be respected 100%.

Your words after Natasha Richardson died (and after people were discussing the appropriateness of the helmet argument on the thread). Just saying!

 

[luckystar112]

Date: 6/25/2009 8:07:58 PM
Author: Linda W

I agree Lisa. I agree with something Larry King just said too. He said next week all of the Tabloids will be saying horrific things about him, so for today, let''s just remember the gift he brought the world. The gift of his music.

I can only imagine the things that are going to be said.

I agree that today should be about his achievements. I am still so shocked!

 

[Clairitek]

My first memories of music include dancing to Thriller in the living room. I was born in 1982 so that album was pretty popular when I was a toddler.

Now I guess I know how people felt when Elvis died. What a sudden passing of a huge icon.

 

[MissGotRocks]

Sometimes I think that people with great talent often times don''t have a proper ''balance'' in their lives. You find this with artists, musicians, geniuses - it''s almost like it''s not possible to be mega talented AND live a normal life with a normal mind. I don''t in any way mean this to be critical of him - he just seemed like a tortured soul for alot of his life to me. While anyone at age 50 can have total cardiac arrest, I''m not at all surprised to hear the suggestion that prescription meds and/or overdose could have contributed. Mental illness is a very real thing - from depression to schizophrenia. I''m sure he wanted more than anyone to make a comeback tour - to reinvent himself as the performer so many loved - but I''m guessing it was a struggle for him.

The plastic surgery was bizarre, Neverland Ranch was bizarre, the circumstances surrounding his children were bizarre, the allegations of child abuse bizarre. Yet, on the other hand, you hear so often of his good heart, his generous nature, his loving ways. It''s as though his life was a complete contradiction in terms.

I do so agree with Deb''s quote though - we can never truly know what struggles anyone lives with everyday. I don''t know any more than the average guy about the allegations of child abuse and so forth so I''ll just wish him peace and know that his talent will be missed. Passing judgment on him is not a task for me.

 

[icekid]

Date: 6/25/2009 8:25:28 PM
Author: MissGotRocks

I do so agree with Deb''s quote though - we can never truly know what struggles anyone lives with everyday. I don''t know any more than the average guy about the allegations of child abuse and so forth so I''ll just wish him peace and know that his talent will be missed. Passing judgment on him is not a task for me.

You are quite right! Great quote, Deb.

He is certainly a great loss for the musical world. Whether he was a great loss for the rest of the world, we''ll never really know. I''ll leave the task of his judgment to someone else!

I hope he finds peace.