Masks vs. guns

[kenny]

Penny for your thoughts.

 

[Karl_K]

They are both protection.
I have 2 of each within easy reach.
Here is a picture of my little Russian friend.

 

[nala]

I voted stupid poll because you do not provide context. What kind of masks? Halloween masks? Surgical masks? And what kind of guns? AK 47’s or .22 rifle? The devil is in the details.

 

[Roselina]

A mask is protection if used correctly, if not, it can in fact be also harmful.
A gun is a sportsinstrument (for sportsshooting).

 

[Queenie60]

I voted stupid poll because you do not provide context. What kind of masks? Halloween masks? Surgical masks? And what kind of guns? AK 47’s or .22 rifle? The devil is in the details.

Same

 

[kenny]

When I go out I wear a mask, but I don't own a gun.

IMO this is best.

They are both protection.
I have 2 of each within easy reach.
Here is a picture of my little Russian friend.

I don't understand.
Where are the straps, and do you stick your nose behind the trigger?

 

[kenny]

A gun is a sports instrument (for sports shooting).

Unm, let's not leave out guns are always handy for rape, robberies, and murder.

But ya know, with people varying and all, those are just another sport to some.
The gun doesn't care.

 

[TooPatient]

They are both protection.
I have 2 of each within easy reach.
Here is a picture of my little Russian friend.

Nice! I have one very similar to that. Boy, I miss the range!

 

[TooPatient]

On the rare occasion I have to go out right now, I wear a mask. Even if it is only a little bit of protection against the virus, it is better than nothing.

Guns are also protection when maintained, trained on safe use, and practiced. Part of the training I went through included how to identify other options to get out of situations and how to make a plan for what you would do if _____. I have had the (unfortunate) chance to put that training to use at home and was very relieved that my call to the police got them to us faster than the person could get in the door. We had a second safe area to be in so the gun was strictly in the event the person broke through multiple locked doors. Had that happened, it would have protected us. (We also camp on occasion and there are bears in the forests. We are extremely careful about food and keeping everything cleaned & safely stored but have found bear tracks on hikes and woke up one time to bear tracks near our campsite. A suitable gun is also protection in situations like this.)

 

[arkieb1]

I voted other, a clown mask or a comic book character mask can say that person likes to dress up. A mask worn in order to conceal that persons identity to rob a store says a whole other thing. A mask worn to protect against a deadly virus says I want to protect myself against a deadly virus.

Similarly a gun in the hands of a policeman says I serve and protect society, a gun in the hands of an idiot, says here is an idiot with a gun, a gun in the hands of a child that is plastic, says I like to pretend to be a good guy or a bad guy....

So without context your survey has no meaning.....

 

[TooPatient]

I voted other, a clown mask or a comic book character mask can say that person likes to dress up. A mask worn in order to conceal that persons identity to rob a store says a whole other thing. A mask worn to protect against a deadly virus says I want to protect myself against a deadly virus.

Similarly a gun in the hands of a policeman says I serve and protect society, a gun in the hands of an idiot, says here is an idiot with a gun, a gun in the hands of a child that is plastic, says I like to pretend to be a good guy or a bad guy....

So without context your survey has no meaning.....

Good points! I hadn't thought about the different possible readings of the question. Very different answers depending on the specifics!

 

[Roselina]

Unm, let's not leave out guns are always handy for rape, robberies, and murder.

But ya know, with people varying and all, those are just another sport to some.
The gun doesn't care.

What I meant: for me guns should be used by civilians when sportshooting, hunting or collecting etc. I‘m not speaking of military and such. That‘s another topic. I live in a country where almost every household has a gun, as we have a civil military and each is responsible for his/her weapon. However, restrictions to use that gun as a civilian, when not on military duty are very strict. You can use it when sportsshooting (ON TARGETS, just to make that clear) and you are not allowed to walk around with it and at home it can not be loaded and weapon and munition have to be locked up save and at different locations. We grew up with that tradition and people respect it. I honestly wouldn’t feel very safe if it was different. But then the country I live in is rather safe. I would probably be a lot less safe if people were allowed to run around with guns and be allowed to shoot whenever they feel unsafe. But it’s a never ending story, isn’t it?

 

[missy]

I voted other.

It depends.

Depends on who and how they are using either object.

A gun can be protection.
A gun can be a weapon for murder and rape and other criminal uses.
But a gun can also be used for good and for the protection of others.
Depends on who is using the gun and for what purpose.

A mask can also be protection for others and for oneself just like a gun can be.
A mask can also be used for bad (armed robbery, rape) to protect the criminal.

So both can be used for bad and both can be used for good.
It depends on who is using them and for what purpose.

 

[kenny]

... So both can be used for bad and both can be used for good. ...

How can a COVID-19 virus mask be used for bad?

 

[missy]

How can a COVID-19 virus mask be used for bad?

I was referring to masks in general. You did not specify masks used just for Coronavirus.
One can use a mask for an armed robbery to hide ones identity as an example.

 

[Dee*Jay]

Pretending not to know what kind of mask Kenny is referring to here is being purposely obtuse. Similarly, to ask whether the conversation is about real guns or play guns used by children, is absurd.

It's not really necessary to make Kenny's posts or polls any more unnecessarily confusing that they already are -- he does that on his own. (I say that with pure love in my heart Kenny, you little sh!t stirrer. )

The question is obvious (ETA: TO ME*) and doing this kabuki involving Hello Kitty masks and nerf guns is silly.

*Then again, if this really is about Halloween and water guns in the swimming pool, I will gladly stand corrected.

 

[missy]

Pretending not to know what kind of mask Kenny is referring to here is being purposely obtuse.

I can only speak for myself Dee (and yes I know at times I am obtuse ) and with regards to this question I stand firmly behind my answer.

It depends.

Masks and guns can be used for protection and can be used against others. Depends on the circumstances. I was being genuine in my reply.

 

[kenny]

Real guns, and masks used for COVID-19.

 

[missy]

Real guns, and masks used for COVID-19.

Then I change my answer. Masks yes. Guns no.

 

[missy]

This is how I feel about guns and Covid 19.

 

[Arcadian]

according to some, it dosen't matter because if you're brown and you have either, both are considered scary.

 

[Queenie60]

Masks - I wear one when leaving my home for any reason. Guns - I own one for protection only. It has not left it's security box for anything other than training on the range. I hope it will never be taken out for anything other than training. I have had it for a very long time, we have been robbed a few times and the first was when we were home. I vowed to protect my family after that incident.

 

[missy]

according to some, it dosen't matter because if you're brown and you have either, both are considered scary.

Yup. Double standard.

 

[WinkHPD]

How can a COVID-19 virus mask be used for bad?

Kenny,

As always, you are me think. Monday morning I took the first available appointment with my dentist who had been closed for some weeks. I was the first one in her office, other than her staff.

She had a new assistant who did most of the cleaning before my actual dentist came to tell me how great my teeth and gums are looking since I started using a water pick.

Both she and her assistant had masks on, of course. If her assistant stuck a gun in my face, with the same mask, I could tell you nothing about who she was except for her approximate body build and blue eyes. Her identity was completely obscured.

Furthermore, with the expectation of people wearing masks to protect us from them, they could easily be a much easier mask to wear and get up closer to us without raising alarm when up to malfeasance.

As a former Marine, I have learned long ago that it is impossible to have a meaningful conversation with others about the topic of guns. Nearly all have made up their minds already and are not up to "discussing" anything differently than what they already believe. Who knows, some of them might even be right.

LOL, kidding. I know what is right for me, I suspect others that do not agree with me are right for them.

So, Kenny, thank you for making me think, yet again.

Wink

 

[Arcadian]

How can a COVID-19 virus mask be used for bad?

There are plenty of robberies taking place in Florida by people using masks (yes the same masks I'm making and even disposable ones) to hide their face and commit their crime.

its naive to think that people will not use whatever resource that have at their disposal. Its not the item, its the person. Once they have the mindset to commit a crime, they'll do just that.

 

[lyra]

Both are protection. Only one is available to me personally though, and that is a mask.

 

[telephone89]

Guns are not for protection, they are for intimidation.

Masks can actually save lives, not just take them.

 

[mrs-b]

My favorite and, in my opinion, most accurate summary of the gun argument. And it's damned funny. Damned funny. And includes a very personal experience of needing protection.

 

[nala]

Pretending not to know what kind of mask Kenny is referring to here is being purposely obtuse. Similarly, to ask whether the conversation is about real guns or play guns used by children, is absurd.

It's not really necessary to make Kenny's posts or polls any more unnecessarily confusing that they already are -- he does that on his own. (I say that with pure love in my heart Kenny, you little sh!t stirrer. )

The question is obvious (ETA: TO ME*) and doing this kabuki involving Hello Kitty masks and nerf guns is silly.

*Then again, if this really is about Halloween and water guns in the swimming pool, I will gladly stand corrected.

Assuming that we all approach vague questions and polls the way that you do is even more obtuse. There are different types of guns—and this question does not address that. An AK47 cannot be compared to a .22.
And let’s not talk about masks. Bc when a certain culture wears a mask, racists automatically treat them differently. Oh and let’s not talk about white privilege when it comes to protesting with guns. Sorry not sorry that I don’t share your Pollyanna perspective on a poll that intends to create more divisiveness in an already divided time. It is obtuse of you not to realize how the gun control threads always end.

 

[Arcadian]

Guns are not for protection, they are for intimidation.

Masks can actually save lives, not just take them.

I've never used my gun to intimidate. The one time I took it out to use on a human it was going to be used and thats not a joke. Thats not because I had planned to break the law either but I was in a position of life or death and I wasn't gonna die.