Looking for a wedding band

[kathio22]

Here is a picture of what my ring looks like. Any suggestions on a band??

http://www.ziamond.com/princutbagso1.html

 

[moremoremore]

pretty! I am a simple gal...so I'd do either a shared prong princess band (half way around so it doesn't hurt your fingers)or maybe a band that fits underneath with matching two baguettes !

 

[Kiz]

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On 4/15/2004 2:55:15 PM kathio22 wrote:

Here is a picture of what my ring looks like. Any suggestions on a band??

http://www.ziamond.com/princutbagso1.html----------------

Why?... so you can buy it, regret buying it, return it, lie about returning it, get caught in a lie, attack the people who caught you in a lie (the same people who "helped" you). Thanks but NO THANKS! Sorry couldnt resist again

Now "go play in traffic"

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On 4/15/2004 3:42:16 PM kathio22 wrote:

go play in traffic----------------

 

[moremoremore]

omy dear. What'd I miss?

 

[kathio22]

Kiz:

You are a true idiot. If you read correctly, I never bought a ring for starters. Also, I never lied about helping my fiance take the ring back to Zales that he initally "purchased". I also wasn't involved in his final purchase and no one "caught" me in a lie. Go fight with yourself in a mirror and see how ugly it is.

I certainly hope you don't buy a diamond and decide it isn't the one you want, return it, and buy another because you will be hung for it!! LOL. dipshit.

 

[aljdewey]

Leonid, it's time to shut this thread down.

 

[kathio22]

You can actually cancel my subscription all together. No point anymore, all it is me defending my fiance's purchase and myself. So what if he returned a ring to Zales and started over, at least he was smart enough to do that when realizing there is a lot more to diamonds than a carat. In the end my material things and money are nothing...it is him that makes me wealthy. I certainly hope all of you that bring the negative up in any way you can on everyone's post don't wind up in a divorce from such negativity. Judge ye least ye be judged.

Later!

 

[baltneu]

Kathio
If we could get back to your original post: I like plain and simple, what about a platinum, half round band, they are from 2mm and up.

 

[shadowfax72]

I have just recently bought an engagement ring for my girlfriend, and spent a pretty heafty amount of time and money on it. When i give it to her she says that hers isnt as nice or as big as one of her friends and then makes me return the ring and find another, and then still isnt satisfied it might be time for a new girfriend.

 

[Nicrez]

Well, that's a perfect reason that men should use their women to help in the process!

or NOT buy expensive things without KNOWING what they like. It's about love, not the ring.

So, if her not liking your choice is upsetting, either you have too thin a skin, or you may be equating this ring with more than just your love for her, or maybe she isn't right for you. Either way, to each his own.

 

[Mara]

HEEE!




Definitely don't shut this one down! It's Friday!

 

[shadowfax72]

I was refering to what kathio22 put her fiance through. I know my girlfriend well enough to know her tastes and am positve she will love the ring. I also know that she wouldn't love it any less if it wasnt as big as her girlfriends .

 

[Nicrez]

Then Shadow I think you are well ahead of the game and I am sure she will be ecstatic to get a commitment AND a ring from you!

But, I have do know of people who want to make sure the guy they are with spent "enough" on them, and they only seem to determine carat weight as that indicator. Frankly, these are people who don't (IMHO) Love the guy they are with. Also, they may not understand or like their man's financial position, and if they aren't happy with THAT, they may NEVER be happy at all...

That's thier cross to bear, but just because a girl isn't super excited by the ring, doesn't mean she's ungrateful and shallow and unacceptable to marry...maybe its not her taste, like the round ring my fiance wanted to get me, until I let him know I liked the cheaper and more squarer stones...

Plus, some people like to work together for something this personal. I think it says teamwork and compromise can still be found... it's a more modern twist on the traditional...

 

[Bridget]

I didn't read that hers wasn't as big as her girlfriends at all. I read that the diamond they got wasn't the quality he paid for so he took it back and started over. Where in there did you get it wasn't as big as her friends?!?!?! It is obvious he spent no time researching for his purchase or he wouldn't have to return it.

It's the same as shopping around with your fiance. In Kathio's case, they didn't shop around together and he made a very quick purchase, regretting it later but not late enough to start over elsewhere. Nothing wrong with that at all. Why is everyone all over her for it? She just stated that although she is not completely thrilled with the quality for the $$ he paid it doesn't really matter, her love for him does.

It seems to me that she has moved on with it and is very happy about it. Why can't she post something without her PAST being brought up? It's like you are all bullies on a playground, behind a friggin screen.

I am sensitive to this today because I am tired of certain folks jumping people all the time and never letting crap go. I am a lurker mainly because of this.

SHE has a choice in her wedding band, and she obviously wants to do this with as much knowledge and advice as possible. Why not applaud her for NOT making the mistakes her fiance did and STOP putting her down for her PAST POSTS.

Kathio, I have the same ring, sort of. I am going with a princess channel. Maybe you can try that?

 

[shadowfax72]

I have no problem with the fact that she returned it. He did get ripped off and should have gotten his money back. But in a later post she says that she isnt happy with her new ring and wishes she could return it and get a better diamond.

 

[Bridget]

I didn't read that anywhere, sorry. I still don't see that anywhere either. I read that she has accepted it still isn't of quality for the $$ but she still loves it. Either way it's a shame that she was ran out of here b/c posters just couldn't let he be happy and move on to the search for a wedding band!!!

 

[Mara]

I'll just chime in here and say that she wasn't 'run off' by anyone, kathi left on her own accord.




In the post where she talked about finally coming to terms with her non-ideal stone (it was posted only a day or two ago)...someone else brought up some conflicting information in terms of her story in a few various threads. I didn't really follow the threads...but she was pretty rude to those people who questioned what she actually meant...when they were really just trying to clarify what was going on.




So I will venture to say that is what Kiz was talking about and there just is STILL alot of confusion around this poster and the story etc. The attitude displayed when questioned was definitely not attractive, telling a fellow poster to 'go play in traffic' sounds very immature.




My two cents.

 

[Bridget]

You always give your two cents, Mara.

She left on her own accord because quite frankly wouldn't you if everytime you posted someone was pointing at you? From what I see and my perspective: why do you care about this poster so much that you have to go back and read her other posts? Is it really that big of a deal? Heck no! Whether she says the sky is blue today and she says it is gray tomorrow, she posted about a wedding band and got slammed! Because of the hooplah over her, I read her posts. I believe it was PQ that basically said she was full of crap for saying she has accepted her ring just because she and her fiance returned one to Zales. That wasn't fair, and it most likely hit a major spot with her. Maybe she felt quilty for feeling bad about the new stone too? We aren't in her emotions to tell...but the bottom line was she clearly said she was happy and willing to move on. Why couldn't you just let her?

 

[MichelleCarmen]

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On 4/16/2004 2:22:05 PM Bridget wrote:

You always give your two cents, Mara.

She left on her own accord because quite frankly wouldn't you if everytime you posted someone was pointing at you? From what I see and my perspective: why do you care about this poster so much that you have to go back and read her other posts? Is it really that big of a deal? Heck no! Whether she says the sky is blue today and she says it is gray tomorrow, she posted about a wedding band and got slammed! Because of the hooplah over her, I read her posts. I believe it was PQ that basically said she was full of crap for saying she has accepted her ring just because she and her fiance returned one to Zales. That wasn't fair, and it most likely hit a major spot with her. Maybe she felt quilty for feeling bad about the new stone too? We aren't in her emotions to tell...but the bottom line was she clearly said she was happy and willing to move on. Why couldn't you just let her?----------------

You sound a bit hypocritical. You question Mara for going back and searching this chick's posts and yet you go and do the same thing because of "the hooplah!" Why do YOU care? I thought this isn't that big of a deal

 

[Bridget]

Good point. I wasn't being critical of Mara, I made that comment towards fox. I didn't search her posts, I read the ones the debate was over. I care because I see this happen all the time all over the net, and because I too was disappointed in my ring, at first, due to the size of my finger (I have man hands LOL) and I could relate to how horrible it feels to not love your ring. That is why I care...

 

[Mara]

The point here, Bridget, is that Kathio is NOT a victim. 'Why can't people just let her move on'...please. Someone pointed out an inconsistency and Kathio didn't seem to like it. Hardly stifling her from moving on. What people DON'T seem to realize is that yes, whatever you post on a forum like this is archived and can be pulled later. So think before you speak. Later it COULD come to haunt you. As for why someone would go read old posts of someones...maybe they just want to gain a better understanding of the situation. Is that a crime?




The bottom line is that Kathio is a big girl and can take care of herself, someone brought up some inconsistencies (and to say that PQ called her 'full of crap' is a bit of an overstatement) and she didn't react very well to it. For her then to pull a dramatic move like 'I'm just leaving because you all are mean' gets no sympathy points from me. We're all adults, we should act like it and the times when we don't...we don't need people to defend us. I am really tired of the whining going on around here.




My big fat "always given" two cents....

 

[Nicrez]

I'm sorry, I try to be all nice (mostly), but I agree with Mara. Whining time is over.

Lately it's been whining about B&M vs. online, whining of who said what, who bullied whom. ENOUGH. It's a diamond forum not a kindergarden!

Let's go back to discussing DIAMONDS...Which is why I really love tuning in to this forum.

Hopefully we alllike to learn and help people find out more about the stones they are seeking, and to make happy people out of confused diamond buyers!

LESS WHINING, MORE DIAMONDS!

 

[strmrdr]

LESS WHINING, MORE DIAMONDS!
LESS WHINING, MORE DIAMONDS!
LESS WHINING, MORE DIAMONDS!
LESS WHINING, MORE DIAMONDS!

I agree, can I yell it again?
LESS WHINING, MORE DIAMONDS!

 

[fire&ice]

Why am I lovin the duck? This too shall pass.

And Bridget, the reason *I* went back (and PQ probably) is that she stated that she didn't want to thank the people who thought her stone not worthy. I check to see if I was one of the people. And, in my haste, I couldn't understand & was truly confused. I asked. I was told to play in traffice. Quite frankly, I thought she was serious about not being *that* kathio. End of story.

I agree that there has been some drama of late. I have been guilty of jumping the gun. There is more than meets the eye & when in doubt - go back to the basics - diamonds. After all, we have that "freak" reputation to proudly live up to!

 

[pqcollectibles]

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On 4/16/2004 2:22:05 PM Bridget wrote:

You always give your two cents, Mara.

She left on her own accord because quite frankly wouldn't you if everytime you posted someone was pointing at you? From what I see and my perspective: why do you care about this poster so much that you have to go back and read her other posts? Is it really that big of a deal? Heck no! Whether she says the sky is blue today and she says it is gray tomorrow, she posted about a wedding band and got slammed! Because of the hooplah over her, I read her posts. I believe it was PQ that basically said she was full of crap for saying she has accepted her ring just because she and her fiance returned one to Zales. That wasn't fair, and it most likely hit a major spot with her. Maybe she felt quilty for feeling bad about the new stone too? We aren't in her emotions to tell...but the bottom line was she clearly said she was happy and willing to move on. Why couldn't you just let her?----------------

Yes, Bridget, and everyone else. I was the person who questioned Kathio. Her post read as follows:

"Well after many months of feeling like my fiance was taken for a ride I am finally at peace with it. See, he is not Internet savvy, at all LOL. So, when I got my beautiful ring I wanted to know about it. I found this website, and I got to learn about my ring. It wasn't a great buy, compared to what he could have gotten from whiteflash or other websites.

He paid $5400 for a 1.27 princess with .45 baguettes on the side of the stone (one on each side) set in Platinum. My princess is H, SI1, more table than depth. On whiteflash, I can get .87 MM bigger, a G color, and more depth than table for $100 more.

I became quite upset, thinking his hard earned money was wasted. In fact, I became obsessed with it to the point I don't enjoy the ring. I am one to always get the bang for my buck and I wish I was invlolved with the process for his sake. He tried to surprise me and in the end felt bad that he didn't "know" about diamonds.

There is nothing we can do about this now, the purchase was made and non-refundable. Even if I upgrade we would pay too much compared to the Internet. No Internet company would upgrade me for the price he paid for the diamond ($4200), we could be so lucky! So was the ring a waste of money? No, not at all. I still have a beautiful ring that will last me for life. I still have a fiance that I will marry in November. I may not have the best quality for the money spent, but in all honesty I would say 95% of buyers have no idea what to do when purchasing a diamond, and mine is damn good compared to others. If comparing at all.

Thank you to all of you that have helped me know my diamond. I am sorry I can not thank those that made me feel like my diamond isn't good enough, but I can thank those who made me feel bad also made me think deeper...I see the real point here. The love that was behind the purchase is far more richer than the knowledge."


I did not remember Kathio. Since Kathio was alluding to folks being rude to her, I wondered who had said what, and if I had said anything that could be perceived as rude. I checked Kathio's posting history. Then I remembered her.

A long time ago, back at the end of last year, Kathio's boyfriend/FI bought a ring from Zales to propose with. Kathio then found PS and realized her FI had way over paid for a poorly cut diamond. They returned the first ring to Zales for a full refund. Then Kathio posted specs on the diamond she was seemingly "interested" in. Folks helped her grade the cut and offered alternative choices. Kathio never once said the diamond she posted was a "done deal" purchase.

Then Kathio comes on with the post quoted above. I had read Kathio's history. People were helpful. People offered alternatives, but I didn't see anyone's comments as being rude. No one certainly intended to make Kathio feel bad about the diamond. Nobody even knew the diamond had been purchased. I was confused and asked for clarification. Kathio's initial response was to claim that I had looked at someone elses posting history. Kathio's wrote:

"Huh? Do I have the same member name as someone else or something? I am confused too LOL.

Sorry!



Kathio"

Kathio did herself further damage by resorting to childish retorts like, "Go play in traffic".

 

[bears rock]

Well I've been lurking here for a while whilst getting used to being in another country and researching the diamond scene here.

I have noticed a definite trend recently to either attack, directly or indirectly, peoples' opinions. I'd rather read about informed comments on diamonds than personal attacks and in this case I have to agree that Kathio's earlier posts should be ignored. Just answer her questions about her wedding ring and if she then responds as she did allegedly before then flame her to hell

The forum seems to have more and more threads submerging into slanging matches.

 

[pqcollectibles]

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On 4/16/2004 5:29:38 PM bears rock wrote:

Well I've been lurking here for a while whilst getting used to being in another country and researching the diamond scene here.

I have noticed a definite trend recently to either attack, directly or indirectly, peoples' opinions. I'd rather read about informed comments on diamonds than personal attacks and in this case I have to agree that Kathio's earlier posts should be ignored. Just answer her questions about her wedding ring and if she then responds as she did allegedly before then flame her to hell

The forum seems to have more and more threads submerging into slanging matches.

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It was not intended as a personal attack, Bear. It was a question. And the question still hasn't been answered.

Good people give their time in a helpful and informative manner and the original poster was wronged??? There's something wrong with that picture.

 

[bears rock]

<On 4/16/2004 9:12:31 PM pqcollectibles wrote:
Good people give their time in a helpful and informative manner and the original poster was wronged??? There's something wrong with that picture.
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Good point PQ. I agree with you in that many people do give helpful and insightful responses - sometimes humourous too!
However, I just felt that some posters, even one with over 2000 posts to her name, seems so vitriolic at times and, frankly, it does not appear necessary in an adult forum.

Just my 0.2ct worth!

 

[fire&ice]

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It was not intended as a personal attack, Bear. It was a question. And the question still hasn't been answered.

Good people give their time in a helpful and informative manner and the original poster was wronged??? There's something wrong with that picture.
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I'm with PQ on this one. As I stated, I was totally confused also. I thought the right thing was to find out some history before making a relavent post. Instead of trying to understand what the situation was, this poster choose to told me to play in traffic.

Bear rock, you have to understand that sometimes things don't seem to be what they really are. We have been inundated w/ trolls, phoney posters & just plain liars of late. Some of us old timers want to maintain the integrity of the forum. One such poster, Closingthedeal, was found out to have many multiple I.D's with different stories. When outed, some of us received the most venomous PM's. Makes you a little gun shy/suspicious about posts that don't add up.

 

[Bridget]

It is the Internet...