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BritExpat

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Hi all, I''ve been lurking around these forums over the last few months and have found you all to be a fantastic resource. It''s finally time for me to take the plunge and I would be most grateful if any of you were willing to help me out.

It''s taken four years (2 of them living together), but I''ve finally realized that my girlfriend is the woman I want to be with for the rest of my life. After months of unemployment, my girl just got offered a great job that will go a long way to getting us back to some level of stability. It just seems like the perfect time to propose so we can really start planning for our future together.

I''ve gone around the chain stores in town and looked at rings to get a good sense of what I''m dealing with. When comparing what they have to the online stores I had two revelations, chain stores are quite expensive and their selection quality really isn''t all that good. Of the sites I''ve visited, you guys seem to recommend James Allen a lot and I love looking through their site so I think it''s where I want to go.

So what am I looking for?

A few years ago my girlfriend made some throwaway comment that her engagement ring would need to be "at least a carat". In the real world however, I think we both know that this isn''t possible with our (my) current budget, so I want to get something that - while smaller - will dazzle and delight more than most of the chain store diamonds. Plus, we can always upgrade at a later date.

My budget is $3000 for both ring and diamond, the good news is that I think either of the knife edge rings at JA are just the ticket (my girl takes a liking to minimalist designs). That leaves a big portion of the budget dedicated to the diamond.

I was hoping the diamond would around a .75 carat, near colorless (H, maybe I?) and then whatever cut and clarity best fits the price range. Obviously I can apply the filters in JA without an issue - but when it comes to tables, crowns and all these crazy diagrams I''m a little out of my league. If you think my specs need changing please let me know.

I''m all ears. All help is greatly appreciated.
 
Welcome.

Certainly something like either this or this you might check out, asking for H&A scopes, and in the latter case, if it''s eye clean.

One helpful screening tool, which is probably not sufficient (in other words, it screens out others you might still like to review from them) is this one, which I use all the time. Both of those are listed there.

Regards,
 
I like this diamond $2650
http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/F-SI1-Ideal-Cut-Round-Diamond-1253608.asp?b=16&a=12&c=77&cid=131

with this setting $330
http://www.jamesallen.com/engagement-rings/solitaire/solitaire-rings.html

for a total of $2980
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Ditto. Nice. Get a Hearts image from JA if you really want a H&A stone.
 
I have nothing pertinent to offer other than to say I''m excited for you. I can''t wait to see what you purchase! I loved the suggestion from akmiss!
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I really like that diamond and setting Akmiss picked out. It looks to me like the SI1 inclusions are minimal... and prob not that noticeable. Your best bet is to always ask them. Also, take a look at JamesAllen upgrade policy. I know that going through the process with a budget; its nice to go with a company that will allow for an upgrade that credits you full price/ close to it for a diamond purchased from them. The better quality a diamond I believe will make up for the size. Personally .8 and 1ct dont make that big of a difference. Id rather go with a .8 that sparkles like the heavens compared to a bigger dull diamond.

Good luck!
 
Well then... that diamond certainly meets my specifications.

Out of curiosity, why the wire basket solitaire over the knife edge? Does it show the diamond better?

So if I e-mail JA I''m asking for a H&A image? How does that differ from the idealscope? Should I also ask about eye cleanliness since it''s an SI1? Although the virtual loupe looked better than some of the VS2''s I''ve seen on the site.

tap02150, that''s exactly what I''m thinking. Plus I think she would rather not me go into (further) debt before getting married (or at least before planning the wedding).

Thanks all!
 
Date: 8/10/2009 8:11:03 AM
Author: BritExpat
Well then... that diamond certainly meets my specifications.

Out of curiosity, why the wire basket solitaire over the knife edge? Does it show the diamond better?
Either would be nice. I think the wire basket is a little more feminine. A wedding band will
not set flush
with the basket but a low one *may* set flush with the knife edge. Pick the one
you like (or you think your girlfriend will like).


So if I e-mail JA I''m asking for a H&A image? How does that differ from the idealscope? Should I also ask about eye cleanliness since it''s an SI1? Although the virtual loupe looked better than some of the VS2''s I''ve seen on the site.
It will show the symmetry of the hearts from the back side of the diamond. Definitly ask for eye-clean.
Tell them from how many inches away you want them to make sure its clean and if looking at the
stone from the side shows flaws (you may not care if it does from the side but just to prevent
any surprises).

tap02150, that''s exactly what I''m thinking. Plus I think she would rather not me go into (further) debt before getting married (or at least before planning the wedding).
Pretty ring=good...debt=bad!

Thanks all!
 
I really like the knife''s edge setting compared to the basket. I think the knife''s edge has a little more traditional look and helps the diamond stand out just a little bit better. Its her preference>your preference>anyone else preference lol
 
Date: 8/10/2009 8:59:09 AM
Author: sarap333

Great stone, nice setting (the knife edge would be nice, too). Put it on hold by e-mailing/calling James Allen so that no one buys it before you get the hearts images!

Thanks, just did this and await their e-mail.
 
I am glad to see that your were able to put the diamond on hold. A .8 diamond is a great size
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It is just personal preference as far as the setting goes and either would look great. I would just get the 2mm or the 2.2mm over the thicker shank.

Good Luck
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After 5pm and no response. I got the confirmation at 8:49 this morning - do these guys work through the evening? Am I just being impatient?
 
Sometimes you get a faster response if you call. They work until 6 p.m. or so EDT -- Eastern Daylight Time.
 
ok, I''ll give ''em a call tomorrow morning. Glad I put the stone on hold otherwise I might be sweating it all night.
 
Well I chatted with someone online this morning and got this:

The hearts image has been requested and the diamond is eye-clean from all angles (per my Sales Manager, Josh).  The diamond will remain on hold until the image request has been fulfilled.

I''m glad it''s eye clean (this was the most important question), but what am I looking for with the hearts image? Should I just go ahead and order it so I can get it by the end of the week? I could always return it. How accurate are their shipping estimates?

As always, thanks for your help!
 
That's great news that it's eye clean!

Here is a link about what to look for in hearts and arrows images. Make sure you read the article by Brian Gavin that is linked at the bottom of that hearts and arrows page.

I believe JA is pretty accurate about their shipping estimates, especially when it's a loose stone and they're not waiting for a setting to be completed for you.

It certainly sounds like you have a great stone there, so if you're pretty sure you've found "the one," I'd say order it, and post pictures of it here when you get it along with the hearts image when you get it for final feedback from PS.

The only downside to doing that is that you'll need to send the stone back to JA for it to be set, but that's not such a big deal. I believe you'll need to cover the cost of shipping the stone back to them (about 20 bucks) but you'll want to check with them on how that works.
 
Date: 8/11/2009 10:45:10 AM
Author: BritExpat
Well I chatted with someone online this morning and got this:

The hearts image has been requested and the diamond is eye-clean from all angles (per my Sales Manager, Josh). The diamond will remain on hold until the image request has been fulfilled.

I''m glad it''s eye clean (this was the most important question), but what am I looking for with the hearts image? Should I just go ahead and order it so I can get it by the end of the week? I could always return it. How accurate are their shipping estimates?

As always, thanks for your help!
No problem, just post the hearts image here when you get it and we will take a look for you.
 
Here it is... Thoughts?

1253608-hearts.jpg
 
Ok, I read the article and I can see what appears to be 8 equal uniformed symmetrical hearts. They are also all seperated from the arrowhead.

I don''t think the hearts are split, but that could be my lack of expertise. I do notice a few holes in some of the hearts (specifically the top and bottom ones) is this something to be concerned with?

Diamond is on hold until 10pm Eastern.
 
I think the hearts look good. I''m giving your thread a bump so others see it. I think the "holes" in the hearts may just be due to the inclusions and probably nothing to worry about.

If no one else posts an answer to this thread, start a new thread with just the specs of the stone and the images and ask for feedback on the hearts image in your thread title.
 
Nice hearts image. :)
 
Date: 8/12/2009 6:08:08 PM
Author: BritExpat
Ok, I read the article and I can see what appears to be 8 equal uniformed symmetrical hearts. They are also all seperated from the arrowhead.

I don''t think the hearts are split, but that could be my lack of expertise. I do notice a few holes in some of the hearts (specifically the top and bottom ones) is this something to be concerned with?

Diamond is on hold until 10pm Eastern.
Thats a good hearts image.
 
Ordered! Nervous now :D

Will post an image for you guys once it arrives.

And on her finger when the time is right (still figuring that out) ;)
 
Good luck. :)
 
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