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Greetings~
OK, so I''m a long time lurker, and I''ve decided to ask for help in picking out the perfect princess cut diamond for my wife.
Back story -- we were married 11 months ago, and because of financial instability at the time we decided to forgo financing an diamond ring. Now we''re a little more stable, and I was thinking that a great 1st anniversary present would be the ring. What I''m looking for:
Carat: About 1.25
Cut: VG or better
Color: I''m thinking G or H is a good balance
Clarity: SI1''s scare me a bit, but I''m thinking as long as it''s not visible to the naked eye...
Other: I really dig a little Fluorescence, so that''d be ideal
My ideal budget is $6500.
I found some good stuff on bluenile, but I''m nervous about not being able to see the actual diamond.

Help please!!!

`Paul
 
Date: 7/9/2009 1:17:53 PM
Author:MrMayo01
Greetings~
OK, so I'm a long time lurker, and I've decided to ask for help in picking out the perfect princess cut diamond for my wife.
Back story -- we were married 11 months ago, and because of financial instability at the time we decided to forgo financing an diamond ring. Now we're a little more stable, and I was thinking that a great 1st anniversary present would be the ring. What I'm looking for:
Carat: About 1.25
Cut: VG or better
Color: I'm thinking G or H is a good balance
Clarity: SI1's scare me a bit, but I'm thinking as long as it's not visible to the naked eye...
Other: I really dig a little Fluorescence, so that'd be ideal
My ideal budget is $6500.
I found some good stuff on bluenile, but I'm nervous about not being able to see the actual diamond.

Help please!!!

`Paul
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Welcome Paul!

Before we start to search, is the $6500 budget just for the diamond or does it need to cover the setting also?

This is the only one showing up at present with a search -

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/5974/
 
The $6500 is just for the diamond.
 
Here are a few suggestions (BTW, that GOG stone looks very nice, just look into that surface cavity issue)...ask for an IS on the ones you like. JA will hold up to 3.

1.22 H/VS1 - this looks seriously well-cut.
1.22 G/VS1 - 2 chevrons, bit of a different "personality;" just ask where the girdle is very thick and if it''s hiding too much carat weight
1.22 H/VVS2 - ask if the good symmetry is a detriment to the naked eye
1.26 H/VS1 - also a great option

Unfortunately, I can''t seem to find anything with fluor!
 
Date: 7/9/2009 6:33:44 PM
Author: jstarfireb
Here are a few suggestions (BTW, that GOG stone looks very nice, just look into that surface cavity issue)...ask for an IS on the ones you like. JA will hold up to 3.

1.22 H/VS1 - this looks seriously well-cut.
1.22 G/VS1 - 2 chevrons, bit of a different ''personality;'' just ask where the girdle is very thick and if it''s hiding too much carat weight
1.22 H/VVS2 - ask if the good symmetry is a detriment to the naked eye
1.26 H/VS1 - also a great option

Unfortunately, I can''t seem to find anything with fluor!
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Nice picks J!!
 
wow these all look great...Thanks for the help.

I absolutely love the zoom feature on JA''s website. In fact, I was so excited that I tried to call JA to reserve one of the diamonds this morning, completely forgetting that the East Coast is 5 hours behind me here in the UK.
 
Date: 7/10/2009 6:50:19 AM
Author: MrMayo01
wow these all look great...Thanks for the help.

I absolutely love the zoom feature on JA''s website. In fact, I was so excited that I tried to call JA to reserve one of the diamonds this morning, completely forgetting that the East Coast is 5 hours behind me here in the UK.
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LOL! They should be open for business soon!
 
I finally got ahold of JA and the I.S. will be e-mailed on Monday!
 
Date: 7/10/2009 9:22:10 AM
Author: MrMayo01
I finally got ahold of JA and the I.S. will be e-mailed on Monday!
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Sounds good, I will keep an eye out
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Date: 7/9/2009 6:33:44 PM
Author: jstarfireb
Here are a few suggestions (BTW, that GOG stone looks very nice, just look into that surface cavity issue)...ask for an IS on the ones you like. JA will hold up to 3.

1.22 H/VS1 - this looks seriously well-cut.
1.22 G/VS1 - 2 chevrons, bit of a different ''personality;'' just ask where the girdle is very thick and if it''s hiding too much carat weight
1.22 H/VVS2 - ask if the good symmetry is a detriment to the naked eye
1.26 H/VS1 - also a great option

Unfortunately, I can''t seem to find anything with fluor!
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My curiosity was raised by the highlighted.

So, I quickly checked, and think that the stone actually has 3 chevron-lines, but relatively broad ones.

Live long,
 
Thanks Paul,

We recently had a discussion about a similarly cut stone from JA (same cutter, maybe?). With the chevrons that broad it gets tough to tell at the edge whether it is a pavillion facet or a virtual facet.

Will the performance of a princess with this style of chevron be similar in character to a 2 chevron stone? What would you see for differences?
 
Thanks Paul! I share the same questions as jet (and I remember that discussion!). Do you think it will perform similarly to a 2-chevron due to the broad chevrons? Do GIA reports accurately depict the number and proportions of chevrons on the inclusion plot, as AGS reports do?

ETA: And thank you Lorelei as well! It's always great to get feedback about my diamond suggestions.
 
Date: 7/10/2009 1:21:26 PM
Author: jstarfireb
Thanks Paul! I share the same questions as jet (and I remember that discussion!). Do you think it will perform similarly to a 2-chevron due to the broad chevrons? Do GIA reports accurately depict the number and proportions of chevrons on the inclusion plot, as AGS reports do?

ETA: And thank you Lorelei as well! It''s always great to get feedback about my diamond suggestions.
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Most welcome my dear!!

* quick threadjack*

Jstar I was wondering if I could draw your attention to this thread please if you have time or any advice for Phoenix?

https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/calcification-in-liver.119715/
 
Of course, I''ll do what I can!
 
Date: 7/10/2009 1:53:20 PM
Author: jstarfireb
Of course, I''ll do what I can!
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Thanks so much J !!!
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Finally! Here''s the IS pic. Let me know what you think!

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Date: 7/14/2009 4:17:26 PM
Author: MrMayo01
Finally! Here''s the IS pic. Let me know what you think!
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Excellent image, its a winner!
 
Looks really nice! That''s the first one on the list I gave you, right? I think it''s a winner.
 
Date: 7/10/2009 1:21:26 PM
Author: jstarfireb
Thanks Paul! I share the same questions as jet (and I remember that discussion!). Do you think it will perform similarly to a 2-chevron due to the broad chevrons? Do GIA reports accurately depict the number and proportions of chevrons on the inclusion plot, as AGS reports do?

ETA: And thank you Lorelei as well! It''s always great to get feedback about my diamond suggestions.
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Sorry Jstar, sorry Jet,

I did not see your question here last week.

As far as I know, GIA does not accurately depict the number and the proportions of chevrons on their inclusion-plots.

As for your other question, whether a stone with very broad 3 chevrons will perform similarly to a 2-chevron, this is very hard to answer. In a diamond, there are so many factors working together, that one cannot simply reduce it to just a number of facets and their size. For sure, broad 3-chevrons will be different to narrow 3-chevrons, but it will still be different to a 2-chevron. More important is the rest of the proportion-set and how well that is cut.

I am sorry, but I really cannot answer your question without having all the information, and without spending a long time studying this specific proportion-set. Still hope that this helps.

Live long,
 
Sorry, I need to correct the previous post.

A strange coincidence, just after writing this post, I happen to be looking at a business of GIA-graded princess-cuts. And I notice that the inclusion-plot does show the correct faceting-pattern.

I am sorry for the confusion.

Live long,
 
Yes, JStar, that IS scan is from the first diamond on that you listed.

Update -- I went ahead and ordered the stone in an 18k solitaire setting, and it''s scheduled to ship on Monday!!!

Thanks EVERYBODY that posted for your help. I''ll be sure to post my response when I finally have the diamond in my hand...
 
CONGRATS!!!
 
Yay, MrMayo! Can''t wait to see the final product!

And thanks again Paul for your input!
 
Congrats! Can''t wait to see pics of the final product.

Thanks, Paul.
 
Date: 7/9/2009 1:25:38 PM
Author: Stone-cold11
There you go.


http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/5974/


just give GOG a call to see if it is eye-clean.
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I am not sure if everybody noticed or saw the video that is on the same page as this link. But I wanted to point out that the video is a real eye-opener. It is extremely helpful in the sense that it compares the visual appeal of diamonds and ... well .. first time I saw anything like this. Remarkable. So thank you. As an aside, do vendors typically provide real images, videos of diamonds if asked ?

Thanks
 
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