Last 2 to pick from!

[HornAround]

Both are per GIA. Sorry, no images.

.83 Round Brilliant (6.11 x 6.05 x 3.72 mm)

Color - G
Clarity - VS2
Depth - 61.2
Table - 56
Crown - 34
Pavilion - 40.8
Girdle - thin to medium (3.5%)
Cut - Excellent
Symmetry - Excellent
Polish - Excellent
Fluorescence - none
HCA Score - 1

or

.90 Round Brilliant (6.13 x 6.15 x 3.82)

Color - H
Clarity - VS2
Depth - 62.2
Table - 57
Crown - 35
Pavilion - 40.6
Girdle - medium to thick (4.5%)
Cut - Very good
Symmetry - Very good
Polish - Very good
Fluorescence - none
HCA Score - 1

Thanks.

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 4/28/2009 10:05:41 AM
Author:HornAround
Both are per GIA. Sorry, no images.

.83 Round Brilliant (6.11 x 6.05 x 3.72 mm)

Color - G
Clarity - VS2
Depth - 61.2
Table - 56
Crown - 34
Pavilion - 40.8
Girdle - thin to medium (3.5%)
Symmetry - Excellent
Polish - Excellent
Fluorescence - none
HCA Score - 1

or

.90 Round Brilliant (6.13 x 6.15 x 3.82)

Color - H
Clarity - VS2
Depth - 62.2
Table - 57
Crown - 35
Pavilion - 40.6
Girdle - medium to thick (4.5%)
Symmetry - Very good
Polish - Very good
Fluorescence - none
HCA Score - 1

Thanks.

Hi Horn,

My vote goes to the first diamond. For completeness can you post the star and lower girdle facet percentages too please?

 

[HornAround]

I forgot to add the cut Lorelei (edited above), glad your here as I respect your opinion.

 

[stone-cold11]

#1

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 4/28/2009 10:09:26 AM
Author: HornAround
I forgot to add the cut Lorelei (edited above), glad your here as I respect your opinion.

Thats very kind of you Horn, I have been doing this for years but it is always so nice to hear that I am helpful - thank you!!!

 

[HornAround]

Date: 4/28/2009 10:08:05 AM
Author: Lorelei

Date: 4/28/2009 10:05:41 AM

Author:HornAround

Both are per GIA. Sorry, no images.


.83 Round Brilliant (6.11 x 6.05 x 3.72 mm)


Color - G

Clarity - VS2

Depth - 61.2

Table - 56

Crown - 34

Pavilion - 40.8

Girdle - thin to medium (3.5%)

Symmetry - Excellent

Polish - Excellent

Fluorescence - none

HCA Score - 1


or


.90 Round Brilliant (6.13 x 6.15 x 3.82)


Color - H

Clarity - VS2

Depth - 62.2

Table - 57

Crown - 35

Pavilion - 40.6

Girdle - medium to thick (4.5%)

Symmetry - Very good

Polish - Very good

Fluorescence - none

HCA Score - 1


Thanks.

Hi Horn,


My vote goes to the first diamond. For completeness can you post the star and lower girdle facet percentages too please?

Can I see that on a GIa report?

 

[Lorelei]

Yes, if you look at the diamond outline on the right of the report where the angle info is, to the left of the diamond at the top you will see a figure such as 55% for example, below that you will see a figure which says 75% as another example, those are the values I need please.

 

[HornAround]

Date: 4/28/2009 10:10:22 AM
Author: Stone-cold11
#1

Ahh, I can''t forget about Stone, I love your no non sense replies because it gets right to the point. That''s 2 votes for number 1! It''s looking like a winner......

 

[HornAround]

How about I add the reports?

G diamond

 

[HornAround]

H diamond

 

[Ellen]

Date: 4/28/2009 10:12:27 AM
Author: HornAround

Date: 4/28/2009 10:10:22 AM
Author: Stone-cold11
#1

Ahh, I can''t forget about Stone, I love your no non sense replies because it gets right to the point. That''s 2 votes for number 1! It''s looking like a winner......

Make that 3 for 1!

 

[Lorelei]

Thanks, still the G for me.

 

[HornAround]

color me confused Lorelei, but you voted for the G in the above replies?

 

[Lorelei]

Yes I mispelled sorry about that - I got the info confused through scrolling on the screen and mixed up the colours, the first diamond G colour is my choice.

 

[HornAround]

Kind of off topic, but why do some of the GIA reports differ? For instance, the first one doesn't show the diamond with the inclusions chart, where as the second one does? Any reason for this? Also, why the discrepancy considering the visual aspect of the reports. I can't stand how they can be blurry sometimes.

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 4/28/2009 10:31:11 AM
Author: HornAround
Kind of off topic, but why do some of the GIA reports differ? For instance, the first one doesn't show the diamond with the inclusions chart, where as the second one does? Any reason for this? Also, why the discrepancy considering the visual aspect of the reports. I can't stand how they can be blurry sometimes.

The first has the GIA diamond dossier which doesn't provide a clarity plot, these diamonds are inscribed. This is still a GIA report but a different type to the full GIA.

 

[HornAround]

Date: 4/28/2009 10:32:20 AM
Author: Lorelei

Date: 4/28/2009 10:31:11 AM

Author: HornAround

Kind of off topic, but why do some of the GIA reports differ? For instance, the first one doesn''t show the diamond with the inclusions chart, where as the second one does? Any reason for this? Also, why the discrepancy considering the visual aspect of the reports. I can''t stand how they can be blurry sometimes.

The first has the GIA diamond dossier which doesn''t provide a clarity plot, these diamonds are inscribed. This is still a GIA report but a different type to the full GIA.

Does it cost extra or something, it just seems odd that they all wouldn''t have it.....

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 4/28/2009 10:34:55 AM
Author: HornAround

Date: 4/28/2009 10:32:20 AM
Author: Lorelei

Date: 4/28/2009 10:31:11 AM

Author: HornAround

Kind of off topic, but why do some of the GIA reports differ? For instance, the first one doesn''t show the diamond with the inclusions chart, where as the second one does? Any reason for this? Also, why the discrepancy considering the visual aspect of the reports. I can''t stand how they can be blurry sometimes.

The first has the GIA diamond dossier which doesn''t provide a clarity plot, these diamonds are inscribed. This is still a GIA report but a different type to the full GIA.

Does it cost extra or something, it just seems odd that they all wouldn''t have it.....

The diamond dossiers are a bit cheaper than the full report, GIA do different types. It just depends, there can be various reasons why a supplier would choose the DD compared to the full report so I wouldn''t worry too much - either are fine.

 

[HornAround]

Ok, I got the G diamond in. It looks great and bigger than I thought it would look. A few questions. I can see what looks to be arrows in the diamond, but it''s not as defined as some of these pictures. Am I going to be able to pick that up with the naked eye or do I need a decent camera for that? Also, in the daylight the stone is pretty damn clear, however, when I bring it in under the lights it has some warmth to it. Is this normal? The diamond sparkles like crazy.

 

[HornAround]

Fire is the sparkle right? This thing sparkles like no other. I love the diamond, however I''m still torn. For some reason I think i can do better. Should I just tell myself to shutup or keep the quest going?

 

[jet2ks]

Scintillation is the sparkles. Fire is the refracted spectral colored light. A good diamond will show quite a bit of both.

Arrows are not as apparent as they seem in the photos. You have to be at the right focal distance and angle. Yes, a camera can pick them up better a lot of time. Sounds silly, but try looking from directly overhead with one eye closed and gradually move the diamond closer. The arrows will show up at the proper distance when your head is obstructing the right amount and angle of light. That is how they get those great photos, the camera becomes the obstruction.

What lights are you talking about bringing warmth? A diamond produces no light of its own, it can only reflect the light from its environment. If that light is very white (sunlight, spotlighting, certain ranges of fluorescent etc.) the diamond will appear white. If you move into a room lit with soft white incandescent or CFL, the light entering is yellower so your diamond reflects that. Also take into account other colors in the environment--walls, ceiling, trees if outside.

If you love the diamond, why not keep it? It looks good by the numbers, you seem to think it looks good in person, the fact it is reflecting colors from the environment is a very good thing. Of course it is your decision (and buyer's remorse is normal for a purchase this size), but to me it sounds like a keeper!

 

[Lorelei]

Ditto Jet''s advice, also concerning the components of performance such as fire, brilliance, scintillation etc, this tutorial has some examples for you.

http://diamonds.pricescope.com/brill.asp

If you aren''t sure, try this exercise! Take the diamond on a field trip and compare it in as many different lightings as you can to see how it looks. Also if there is a Jareds near you check out some of their Peerless AGS0 diamonds to compare yours with. Your diamond is excellently cut, if you can compare one of the above in dimmer lighting ( not in the blazing store lights) then you will see how yours looks and have a baseline comparison with those of known cut quality.

Also look at some Hearts on Fire if there is a dealer near you, those would make a good comparison also.

 

[HornAround]

Date: 4/29/2009 10:50:46 AM
Author: jet2ks
Scintillation is the sparkles. Fire is the refracted spectral colored light. A good diamond will show quite a bit of both.


Arrows are not as apparent as they seem in the photos. You have to be at the right focal distance and angle. Yes, a camera can pick them up better a lot of time. Sounds silly, but try looking from directly overhead with one eye closed and gradually move the diamond closer. The arrows will show up at the proper distance when your head is obstructing the right amount and angle of light. That is how they get those great photos, the camera becomes the obstruction.


What lights are you talking about bringing warmth? A diamond produces no light of its own, it can only reflect the light from its environment. If that light is very white (sunlight, spotlighting, certain ranges of fluorescent etc.) the diamond will appear white. If you move into a room lit with soft white incandescent or CFL, the light entering is yellower so your diamond reflects that. Also take into account other colors in the environment--walls, ceiling, trees if outside.


If you love the diamond, why not keep it? It looks good by the numbers, you seem to think it looks good in person, the fact it is reflecting colors from the environment is a very good thing. Of course it is your decision (and buyer''s remorse is normal for a purchase this size), but to me it sounds like a keeper!

I think my only concern is the size of the diamond. However, I should probably junk those concerns since the educated people of pricescope told me clearly the .7 is not worth the dropping of cut, color and clarity. I think I''m just looking for more justification.

 

[jet2ks]

Date: 4/29/2009 11:20:22 AM
Author: HornAround

I think my only concern is the size of the diamond. However, I should probably junk those concerns since the educated people of pricescope told me clearly the .7 is not worth the dropping of cut, color and clarity. I think I''m just looking for more justification.

Definitely! The diameter measurements of the two stones is less than 1/10th of a millimeter apart. You could put them side by side and not see the difference. A better cut will return more light and make the stone appear larger.

Now the question is-- How are you setting it and when do we get to see pictures?

 

[HornAround]

It''s funny you mention the setting. At first I thought the band sparkled and shined like no other. However, the diamond absolutely blows it away. It''s an 18k white gold band with 2 baguettes on the outer part of the ring, with 2 diamonds in between them and the head. Underneath the head it a cluster of 8 diamonds. All of the diamonds are F-G color, VS clarity, and .49 total weight.

Should I get the ring and the diamond appraised before I set it?

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 4/29/2009 12:08:11 PM
Author: HornAround
It''s funny you mention the setting. At first I thought the band sparkled and shined like no other. However, the diamond absolutely blows it away. It''s an 18k white gold band with 2 baguettes on the outer part of the ring, with 2 diamonds in between them and the head. Underneath the head it a cluster of 8 diamonds. All of the diamonds are F-G color, VS clarity, and .49 total weight.

Should I get the ring and the diamond appraised before I set it?

It depends, you can get the diamond appraised loose then get the appraiser to give the completed ring a final inspection and give you a suitable figure you can use for insurance.

 

[HornAround]

Date: 4/29/2009 1:32:10 PM
Author: Lorelei

Date: 4/29/2009 12:08:11 PM

Author: HornAround

It''s funny you mention the setting. At first I thought the band sparkled and shined like no other. However, the diamond absolutely blows it away. It''s an 18k white gold band with 2 baguettes on the outer part of the ring, with 2 diamonds in between them and the head. Underneath the head it a cluster of 8 diamonds. All of the diamonds are F-G color, VS clarity, and .49 total weight.


Should I get the ring and the diamond appraised before I set it?

It depends, you can get the diamond appraised loose then get the appraiser to give the completed ring a final inspection and give you a suitable figure you can use for insurance.

I''ll need to get the diamond insured before it''s set because my jeweler says it''s not covered since it isn''t their stone.