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Kanye West and Taylor Swift

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Apparently he went on a rampage on his twitter about how bad he felt, how his career was ruined, etc etc and that he wrote a song for Taylor Swift...do you think this is enough? Sincere? Personally I could care less if he didn't write any more music after re watching that video. There are consequences and these are his, he needs to deal with it. What do you all think? Do people even care anymore?

Here's the excerpts of his twitter apology (text break up equivalent to me!)

Kanye posted nearly 100 tweets in a little over two hours. It started innocently enough with: "Man I love Twitter... I've always been at the mercy of the press but no more... The media tried to demonize me."

Then it moved on to: "Remember in Anchor Man when Ron Burgandy cursed on air and the entire city turned on him? But this wasn't a joke. This was & is my real life."

And: "People tweeted that they wish I was dead... No listen. They wanted me to die people. I carry that. I smile and take pictures through that."

Then he finally brought up Taylor: "I wrote a song for Taylor Swift that's so beautiful and I want her to have it. If she won't take it then I'll perform it for her."

Later: "When I woke up from the crazy nightmare I looked in the mirror and said GROW UP KANYE ... I take the responsibility for my actions ... I am not a bad person. Even in that moment I was only trying to do good but people don't always need my help ... Beyonce didn't need that. MTV didn't need that and Taylor and her family friends and fans definitely didn't want or need that."

After several more it ended with, "I'm sorry Taylor."

Kanye has gone Twitter silent since then.
 
I think he's a talented artist who let the fame and feeling of invincibility get to his head. He got a major wakeup call when the public made it clear they'd had enough of his ego and antics. Let's not forget, this is also the guy who was notorious for throwing hissy fits at awards shows and even accused the awards committees of being racist when Britney Spears won over him one year.

My view is, he got a reality check, he's been laying low for a year now, it's time for everyone to move on. He's been ridiculed 50 ways from Sunday. Ultimately the man didn't kill anyone, he just made an @ss out of himself in front of the world. If he wants to release more tracks, good for him. People can vote with their wallets if they decide they aren't willing to listen anymore. They can choose not to attend his concert, buy his merchandise or download his songs.

Chris Brown on the other hand is someone I will boycott until the end of time. He didn't embarrass someone at an awards show, he severely beat a woman and then complained non-stop when fans stopped buying his music and demanded his songs not be played on the radio. He learned nothing. Kanye at least has issued his apologies and focused on staying out of the limelight for awhile.

All these artists need to stop thinking everyone cares about their every thought, opinion and viewpoint on everything. Shut up and sing!
 
Seems like a desperate ploy to get back into the headlines...didn't this happen over a year ago?
 
It happened about a year ago and in my opinion what he did to Taylor was unexcusable :nono:
 
Later: "When I woke up from the crazy nightmare I looked in the mirror and said GROW UP KANYE ... I take the responsibility for my actions ... I am not a bad person. Even in that moment I was only trying to do good but people don't always need my help ... Beyonce didn't need that. MTV didn't need that and Taylor and her family friends and fans definitely didn't want or need that."

In the end, he is still a man. Sometimes self-realization is just that. It sounds like in this moment he recognizes his error. I'm glad for him. It may be a growth moment.
 
:(( I think what he did was lame and stupid.

That stands alone. I don't think it is the sum of who he is as a person and I don't believe he cannot grow and learn beyond that. He is just a person and people, we screw up. Does that excuse it? No. It doesn't. Do I think he deserved what he got? Yes, natural consequences. Do I think he should be villified for life? No more than any of us. We have all screwed upand we have the luxury of doing it in relative privacy. I think he needs counseling, maybe he's had some... Probably could use more. I do believe his regret is sincere. I don't think he should pay with his entire career for this one incident. I never knew/liked his music so I can't say this affected me, but at this point I am still open to it.

I don't think he hurt her in the long run, she got WAY more press than she would have and the pity and sympathy of millions of people only helped her.

Mel Gibson is in the unforgivable camp for me and Michael Richards is close behind. Kanye isimpulsive and egocentric, many of us are. There are things he could have said and done that were forever unforgivable, but I don't think he quite crossed that line. Got close for sure... And people are always able to vote with their wallet.
 
Haha Nashville, maybe if I wasn't typing on myiphone I'd have beat your post lol or maybe if I'd waited a few more I coulda just said ditto :D
 
Cehrabehra said:
Haha Nashville, maybe if I wasn't typing on myiphone I'd have beat your post lol or maybe if I'd waited a few more I coulda just said ditto :D

Haha! Great minds think alike ;)) :lol:
 
Nashville said:
Cehrabehra said:
Haha Nashville, maybe if I wasn't typing on myiphone I'd have beat your post lol or maybe if I'd waited a few more I coulda just said ditto :D

Haha! Great minds think alike ;)) :lol:
I have a tendency to post my response before reading beyond the first post - because I somehow think my first impression is more valuable, I should convince myself that reading ahead would reduce redundancy ;)
 
What he did was SO SO SO wrong and hurtful... but... (and I have to say I've never been a Kanye fan) I think he is moving in the right direction. No one is perfect and if he truly is sorry and feels bad, I want to give the guy some compassion and the benefit of the doubt and say "Thanks for the apology". But, it's not really up to me. It's up to Taylor... but I honestly think she will handle it very gracefully.

Kanye's tweets are SO FUNNY. I added him a while back, though I think I deleted him, but they really had me laughing. More in a "laughing at him and not with him" kind of way, and I didn't like that so I just don't read the tweets anymore.
 
My apologies for not reading your entire first post, RT, but when I saw this thread and read those two names I had to ask myself (seriously) if those two people actually still existed.

I "like" their music. But that really has nothing to do with them as people as it's all PR and marketing...I just don't pay much attention to those "artists" these days. I don't think they deserve what little media attention they do receive. It's all a farce. I'd rather listen to their music on the radio and be blissfully unaware of whatever publicity stunts they pull. And I don't think for one second that Taylor Swift wasn't in on what Kanye West "did" to her at the VMA's. That was a totally contrived stunt. Just my opinion, of course. But the music industry is like politics...everything is very carefully orchestrated.
 
I honestly don't care anymore. He made himself look ridiculous which helped his sales and press coverage. She looked like a victime which increased her sales and press coverage. Win-win. Artists have to stay relevant in one fashion or another. This is just his way of staying in the media's line of sight and Taylor can choose to use it to her benefit or not.
 
As sweet and talented as she is, the girl can't sing to save her life. Beyonce gets on my nerves and over sings, but I mean it wasn't like he was wrong. Like, at the end of the day, I could give a crap about a music video and which one is better.

Personally, I'm not into people that sugar coat and pussyfoot, that bugs me. So in that respect, I kind of like Kanye. Even though I might think things, I do have a filter and I enable it so my mouth won't get me into trouble. He just doesn't have a filter, and it didn't help that he dissed someone so (seemingly) squeaky clean.

He's got a huge ego, but I can't think of anything he's said that been totally off the wall. He makes me laugh. And that's because I sometimes find inappropriate things humorous.
 
pennquaker09 said:
As sweet and talented as she is, the girl can't sing to save her life. Beyonce gets on my nerves and over sings, but I mean it wasn't like he was wrong. Like, at the end of the day, I could give a crap about a music video and which one is better.

Personally, I'm not into people that sugar coat and pussyfoot, that bugs me. So in that respect, I kind of like Kanye. Even though I might think things, I do have a filter and I enable it so my mouth won't get me into trouble. He just doesn't have a filter, and it didn't help that he dissed someone so (seemingly) squeaky clean.

He's got a huge ego, but I can't think of anything he's said that been totally off the wall. He makes me laugh. And that's because I sometimes find inappropriate things humorous.

Ditto every word! Who cares? I'm sure she was crying all the way to the bank! :$$): I actually love Kanye and I think he's a little hot, too. THERE I SAID IT.
 
random_thought said:
Kanye has gone Twitter silent since then.

Thankfully.

Well, about that whole thing, I think it was set up myself. I don't think he decided to do that spontaneously. I think it was a publicity stunt.

I don't know why I think that but that's the feeling I got.
 
At this point, I think the only way for him to get a career back is to drop it, and let it die. That being said, it makes for some AWESOME jokes.
 
I don't know who these people are, but I remember hearing about the whole debacle when it happened.

Is this enough of an apology? My immediate reply is: It's good enough if Taylor Swift accepts it. She's the one he's apologizing too, right? So if she thinks it's enough, it's enough. If not, it's not.

I've never been on Twitter, but I did chuckle a bit when I read that he's launching his apology on that website and wrote that he needs to "grow up."
 
Kayne is immature and an ass, but an entertaining ass. First I thought he was simply ignorant, but he is so good at pushing people's buttons with his self absorbed and idiotic comments it's hard to think of it as accidental at this point. It's performance art at this point.

As far as whether it was an appropriate apology, etc I really don't care about the original "shocking" controversy enough to judge.
 
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