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[Sha]

I think all the kids are cute, but Leah, Colin, and Hannah, are just the cutest, IMO. I like the episode when Colin had constipation and was walking around whining about it. He walks up to the babysitter who was giving out kisses and says, "Can you kiss my hiney?"

HILARIOUS!!! The things children say!

Yeah, I saw the episode on Thursday, when Kate yells at Jon from way across the floor at the Crayola Factory. It was pretty embarassing. Even people at the faraway tables looked up. I don''t like the way she berates him, especially in public, but I can also understand why she''s so anal. She seems to be more of the planner while Jon is naturally more laid-back, so I guess she feels it''s her job to keep everybody on track, including Jon. I think they''re very well organized for a family of 8 small children. I can''t imagine how stressful that must be!

 

[diamondsrock]

I don''t watch too much but have seen a few episodes. There is one of the little girls, I forget which one, who seems like she is always smiling and she is so absolutely adorable. I just melt every time I see her!

I have to admit that Kate''s attitude towards her husband bothers me as well. She treats him in a very condescending way in my opinion. To be honest, it''s awkward and uncomfortable to watch. My in-laws are somewhat like them - she is the one in charge and he is passive. They''ve been married over 40 years so something is working. She never treats him like that though (condescending, belittling, etc..). It''s just a known fact that she''s the boss in their household. It seems like just a lack of respect on Kate''s part towards her husband, at least from what I can see. Who knows how they are in real life. I know he said before he originally didn''t want anymore kids and she did so he caved and then they got 6 more. He''s fine with it now, but I think she makes most of the decisions in that family and he goes along for the ride!

I didn''t realize there was so much drama behind the scenes, however. I checked out those links and not too nice for sure. I had no idea from the show that she had all that help. I honestly thought they did all of it themselves, which made me wonder how she could hold it all together, even if she seems controlling and critical. I would think most people would need help now and again to stay sane!

 

[NYCsparkle]

i think that it is unfair to judge kate from a 1/2 hour show. i don''t know how calm, cool, and collected i''d be with 8 kids. there are days i lose patience with 1 child. she is a bit controlling at times and says things that sound harsh, but she does have 8 kids!!!

sometimes i think jon acts insensitive and unaffectionate towards them. i do wonder what life will be like for the kids once the cameras stop rolling---especially mady who seems to enjoy the limelight.
i made monkey munch this weekend and it was a big hit at my sons b-day party.

 

[Anna0499]

Date: 7/28/2008 12:46:36 PM
Author: NYCsparkle
i think that it is unfair to judge kate from a 1/2 hour show. i don't know how calm, cool, and collected i'd be with 8 kids. there are days i lose patience with 1 child. she is a bit controlling at times and says things that sound harsh, but she does have 8 kids!!!

sometimes i think jon acts insensitive and unaffectionate towards them. i do wonder what life will be like for the kids once the cameras stop rolling---especially mady who seems to enjoy the limelight.
i made monkey munch this weekend and it was a big hit at my sons b-day party.

I agree...I went to that blog site run by Jodi's sister and I must say I found a huge lack of maturity and an immense amount of hatred within its pages. Julie obviously feels a need to talk about the Gosselins on a public forum to encourage negative feelings towards the family. Whether or not she gets along with/likes/wants to see the Gosselins is irrelevant IMHO - I don't know why she feels she needs to tell strangers about the personal details of another person's lifetyle...if I didn't like my sister's SIL the last thing I would do is start up a website about it. It seems very unhealthy and counterproductive to constantly and publicly berate and criticize your own family. Everyone's focused on how Kate's parenting will affect the kids, but what about when they see these sites managed by their own FAMILY? The comments from people who visit the site were disturbing as well, especially the ones asking "Why did she have 8 kids?" and complaining about public assistance for the family. I guess these posters would've preferred her to abort 5 babies and say the same thing to any recipient of government assistance. I think those types of comments are entirely ignorant and hypocritical...are they really objecting to someone's right to have sextuplets (not their choice)?!

 

[Mara]

so funny that this thread is going on, we saw one random episode last week because Tivo caught it since i tagged it to catch anything with ''cupcakes''...and both of us who had never seen the show before were surprised at how harsh kate seemed to her hub and also what a germophobe and how anal she seemed! her hub seems so laid back and she seems very type A. i thought wow that can''t be an easy life for anyone.

 

[february2003bride]

Date: 7/28/2008 1:06:40 PM
Author: IndyGirl22

Date: 7/28/2008 12:46:36 PM
Author: NYCsparkle
i think that it is unfair to judge kate from a 1/2 hour show. i don''t know how calm, cool, and collected i''d be with 8 kids. there are days i lose patience with 1 child. she is a bit controlling at times and says things that sound harsh, but she does have 8 kids!!!

sometimes i think jon acts insensitive and unaffectionate towards them. i do wonder what life will be like for the kids once the cameras stop rolling---especially mady who seems to enjoy the limelight.
i made monkey munch this weekend and it was a big hit at my sons b-day party.

I agree...I went to that blog site run by Jodi''s sister and I must say I found a huge lack of maturity and an immense amount of hatred within its pages. Julie obviously feels a need to talk about the Gosselins on a public forum to encourage negative feelings towards the family. Whether or not she gets along with/likes/wants to see the Gosselins is irrelevant IMHO - I don''t know why she feels she needs to tell strangers about the personal details of another person''s lifetyle...if I didn''t like my sister''s SIL the last thing I would do is start up a website about it. It seems very unhealthy and counterproductive to constantly and publicly berate and criticize your own family. Everyone''s focused on how Kate''s parenting will affect the kids, but what about when they see these sites managed by their own FAMILY? The comments from people who visit the site were disturbing as well, especially the ones asking ''Why did she have 8 kids?'' and complaining about public assistance for the family. I guess these posters would''ve preferred her to abort 5 babies and say the same thing to any recipient of government assistance. I think those types of comments are entirely ignorant and hypocritical...are they really objecting to someone''s right to have sextuplets (not their choice)?!

Hm, I''ve never read anyone say that but I wouldn''t be surprised if there were extremists who are saying that out on blogs.

What most people have an issue with regarding Jon and Kate wanting so many free items and monetary contributions (or what J&K call "love offerings") is that Kate purposely got pregnant with multiples they couldn''t afford. Kate took fertlity drugs, hyperovulated and ended up in the hospital. Her dr. did an ultrasound, saw she had 7+ eggs and refused to do the IUI because she would surely get pregnant with more than twins or triplets and the Gosselin''s were very upfront about being against selective reduction. Kate fired her dr., was released shortly after and got pregnant at home. So she knew she could possibly get pregnant with high order mulitples that they couldn''t afford. She found out a couple of weeks later that she was pregnant with 7 (1 baby never developed) with her NEW dr., who did NOT do the IUI.

Personally, I don''t care if a woman gets pregnant with HOM, if they can afford them and truely care and love them any any challenges that come with premature babies. I think Jon and Kate ARE great parents, but somewhere during the season of their show, they lost perspective of WHY they were doing the show.

 

[Anna0499]

Date: 7/28/2008 3:43:56 PM
Author: february2003bride

Date: 7/28/2008 1:06:40 PM
Author: IndyGirl22

I agree...I went to that blog site run by Jodi's sister and I must say I found a huge lack of maturity and an immense amount of hatred within its pages. Julie obviously feels a need to talk about the Gosselins on a public forum to encourage negative feelings towards the family. Whether or not she gets along with/likes/wants to see the Gosselins is irrelevant IMHO - I don't know why she feels she needs to tell strangers about the personal details of another person's lifetyle...if I didn't like my sister's SIL the last thing I would do is start up a website about it. It seems very unhealthy and counterproductive to constantly and publicly berate and criticize your own family. Everyone's focused on how Kate's parenting will affect the kids, but what about when they see these sites managed by their own FAMILY? The comments from people who visit the site were disturbing as well, especially the ones asking 'Why did she have 8 kids?' and complaining about public assistance for the family. I guess these posters would've preferred her to abort 5 babies and say the same thing to any recipient of government assistance. I think those types of comments are entirely ignorant and hypocritical...are they really objecting to someone's right to have sextuplets (not their choice)?!

Hm, I've never read anyone say that but I wouldn't be surprised if there were extremists who are saying that out on blogs.

What most people have an issue with regarding Jon and Kate wanting so many free items and monetary contributions (or what J&K call 'love offerings') is that Kate purposely got pregnant with multiples they couldn't afford. Kate took fertlity drugs, hyperovulated and ended up in the hospital. Her dr. did an ultrasound, saw she had 7+ eggs and refused to do the IUI because she would surely get pregnant with more than twins or triplets and the Gosselin's were very upfront about being against selective reduction. Kate fired her dr., was released shortly after and got pregnant at home. So she knew she could possibly get pregnant with high order mulitples that they couldn't afford. She found out a couple of weeks later that she was pregnant with 7 (1 baby never developed) with her NEW dr., who did NOT do the IUI.

Personally, I don't care if a woman gets pregnant with HOM, if they can afford them and truely care and love them any any challenges that come with premature babies. I think Jon and Kate ARE great parents, but somewhere during the season of their show, they lost perspective of WHY they were doing the show.

Oh, I know you aren't in that extremist crowd and I know that some people look at their "money-making" in poor taste, but some of the comments flat-out criticized Kate for having the sextuplets at all. I don't think anyone ever used the term "abort/ion" because it's such a hot-button issue, but that is what reduction would entail essentially (correct me if I'm wrong). My sister has PCO and has been trying to conceive for awhile and was on fertility drugs, injections, tests, etc., etc. and the doctor told her she had the high probability of having multiples if she did ever get pregnant. My sister probably couldn't afford to have sextuplets, but I don't think that means she shouldn't be able to try and have one. They are raising their children in a loving home and the parents have a committed relationship (and we can see many times how committed Jon must be!), which is more than we can say about those people who have children with multiple partners and non-committed relationships, which is more irresponsible and needs to be addressed IMHO. I know you weren't posting on that site

, I just wanted to say how sick and sad it made me feel that people who don't care for the Gosselins would write such hateful things about the family and especially that the blog-master is a family member! I guess I'm just adhering to the school of thought that you keep private family matters private.

 

[cara]

IG22, I certainly wish your sister well in her pregnancy efforts. Of course she should be able to try for one, even though she will be at higher risk of multiples, and multiples are at higher risk during pregnancy and after. Sometimes one does have to take risks! Please try to ignore the haters on that other site and not infer criticism of your sister - people will say the cruelest things!

I guess the key for me is that people employing technology to assist in reproduction have a moral duty to go about it somewhat responsibly, balancing the risks and rewards in a way that takes into account the future health of the potential children as well as your ability to provide for them. Of course that is very hard when you are desperate for a child and the US system encourages risk-taking with the way fertility treatments are financed (or not financed by insurance companies.)

People who are morally opposed to selective reduction should be more cautious with their use of technology. This might mean implanting fewer embryos in IVF, or holding off with IUI when the ultrasound shows too many viable eggs. Very hard if you have been infertile for years and spending your precious savings and here is your chance!! Which is why I hope for some voice of reason from the doctors involved and some financial support from insurance companies to minimize the need for risk taking but also some personal restraint from those opposed to selective reduction.

Most human pregnancies of 6 fetuses do not end well. The Gosslins are very, very lucky to have 8 healthy kids, let alone all of the material support they may have received or earned through their TV show. If that story FebBride posted about ignoring the doctor when conceiving the sextuplets is true - I can''t imagine she found that on an official site, too juicy! - then that is truly horrifying, even though the story has a happy ending with the 6 healthy babies.

I totally understand personal choice against selective reduction, many would equate it with abortion, but it is done with the goal of maximizing the odds of having a successful outcome to the pregnancy rather than ending it. I would have a very hard time doing it myself if faced with some freak pregnancy of 6 fetues, but in my limited sphere I know of twins that have died, long stays in the NICU that drain parents and everyone surrounding, triplets that were all born well but later had many health problems and some long-term disabilities, etc. Its not just about financially providing for the kids, it is about having healthy kids without long term disabilities or other medical problems. The odds for 6 fetuses are so poor that I hope I would have the strength to make a different choice than the Gosselins.

 

[diamondsrock]

Date: 7/28/2008 3:43:56 PM
Author: february2003bride

Date: 7/28/2008 1:06:40 PM
Author: IndyGirl22

Date: 7/28/2008 12:46:36 PM
Author: NYCsparkle
i think that it is unfair to judge kate from a 1/2 hour show. i don''t know how calm, cool, and collected i''d be with 8 kids. there are days i lose patience with 1 child. she is a bit controlling at times and says things that sound harsh, but she does have 8 kids!!!

sometimes i think jon acts insensitive and unaffectionate towards them. i do wonder what life will be like for the kids once the cameras stop rolling---especially mady who seems to enjoy the limelight.
i made monkey munch this weekend and it was a big hit at my sons b-day party.

I agree...I went to that blog site run by Jodi''s sister and I must say I found a huge lack of maturity and an immense amount of hatred within its pages. Julie obviously feels a need to talk about the Gosselins on a public forum to encourage negative feelings towards the family. Whether or not she gets along with/likes/wants to see the Gosselins is irrelevant IMHO - I don''t know why she feels she needs to tell strangers about the personal details of another person''s lifetyle...if I didn''t like my sister''s SIL the last thing I would do is start up a website about it. It seems very unhealthy and counterproductive to constantly and publicly berate and criticize your own family. Everyone''s focused on how Kate''s parenting will affect the kids, but what about when they see these sites managed by their own FAMILY? The comments from people who visit the site were disturbing as well, especially the ones asking ''Why did she have 8 kids?'' and complaining about public assistance for the family. I guess these posters would''ve preferred her to abort 5 babies and say the same thing to any recipient of government assistance. I think those types of comments are entirely ignorant and hypocritical...are they really objecting to someone''s right to have sextuplets (not their choice)?!

Hm, I''ve never read anyone say that but I wouldn''t be surprised if there were extremists who are saying that out on blogs.

What most people have an issue with regarding Jon and Kate wanting so many free items and monetary contributions (or what J&K call ''love offerings'') is that Kate purposely got pregnant with multiples they couldn''t afford. Kate took fertlity drugs, hyperovulated and ended up in the hospital. Her dr. did an ultrasound, saw she had 7+ eggs and refused to do the IUI because she would surely get pregnant with more than twins or triplets and the Gosselin''s were very upfront about being against selective reduction. Kate fired her dr., was released shortly after and got pregnant at home. So she knew she could possibly get pregnant with high order mulitples that they couldn''t afford. She found out a couple of weeks later that she was pregnant with 7 (1 baby never developed) with her NEW dr., who did NOT do the IUI.

Personally, I don''t care if a woman gets pregnant with HOM, if they can afford them and truely care and love them any any challenges that come with premature babies. I think Jon and Kate ARE great parents, but somewhere during the season of their show, they lost perspective of WHY they were doing the show.

If that is indeed true about how she became pregnant with the 6 of them, that is very disturbing. I thought everyone knew by now the high medical risks associated with high number multiple pregnancies. Why would someone do that on purpose? Also, if she did do it on purpose knowing that this could happen, I find it wrong to accept and ask for donations. If it was natural or unexpected then that''s one thing, but if you know it''s possible then you should be the one to deal with it later.
Also I find it odd that none of her family (except Aunt Jodi who is now out of the picture) is involved with them or the kids. Wonder what the real story is behind that? We''ll never know.
Also, I know people are saying that no one should judge Kate and all, but come on, she is putting herself out there on national television! Surely she is going to expect some criticism. I have to admit there is something about her that irks me (sense of entitlement maybe or just the way she treats her husband). I think the kids are adorable but her, eh. I could watch the kids all day but can''t watch her for more than a few minutes without changing the channel.

 

[Anna0499]

Date: 7/28/2008 5:31:49 PM
Author: cara
IG22, I certainly wish your sister well in her pregnancy efforts. Of course she should be able to try for one, even though she will be at higher risk of multiples, and multiples are at higher risk during pregnancy and after. Sometimes one does have to take risks! Please try to ignore the haters on that other site and not infer criticism of your sister - people will say the cruelest things!

I guess the key for me is that people employing technology to assist in reproduction have a moral duty to go about it somewhat responsibly, balancing the risks and rewards in a way that takes into account the future health of the potential children as well as your ability to provide for them. Of course that is very hard when you are desperate for a child and the US system encourages risk-taking with the way fertility treatments are financed (or not financed by insurance companies.)

People who are morally opposed to selective reduction should be more cautious with their use of technology. This might mean implanting fewer embryos in IVF, or holding off with IUI when the ultrasound shows too many viable eggs. Very hard if you have been infertile for years and spending your precious savings and here is your chance!! Which is why I hope for some voice of reason from the doctors involved and some financial support from insurance companies to minimize the need for risk taking but also some personal restraint from those opposed to selective reduction.

Most human pregnancies of 6 fetuses do not end well. The Gosslins are very, very lucky to have 8 healthy kids, let alone all of the material support they may have received or earned through their TV show. If that story FebBride posted about ignoring the doctor when conceiving the sextuplets is true - I can''t imagine she found that on an official site, too juicy! - then that is truly horrifying, even though the story has a happy ending with the 6 healthy babies.

I totally understand personal choice against selective reduction, many would equate it with abortion, but it is done with the goal of maximizing the odds of having a successful outcome to the pregnancy rather than ending it. I would have a very hard time doing it myself if faced with some freak pregnancy of 6 fetues, but in my limited sphere I know of twins that have died, long stays in the NICU that drain parents and everyone surrounding, triplets that were all born well but later had many health problems and some long-term disabilities, etc. Its not just about financially providing for the kids, it is about having healthy kids without long term disabilities or other medical problems. The odds for 6 fetuses are so poor that I hope I would have the strength to make a different choice than the Gosselins.

Thanks! My sister is actually about two and a half months pregnant now, but she only had one. She will probably go through it all again because she is 28 and was warned against having babies past a certain age. I completely agree with you that the key is responsible decision-making when it comes to fertility treatments and pregnancies...the consequences of irresponsibility can be so tragic. I also agree that selective reduction is different than abortion, but it''s hard to draw the line between the two since both result in the death of a fetus/embryo. Maybe her choices would''ve been made differently by other people, but now that the babies are here I think everyone just wants them to be happy and healthy. That is juicy info about her pregnancy though...I''ve never read about the details of it from any of their sites. Inside track info is always juicier!

I don''t think the show would be as popular if Kate wasn''t how she was, so I''m sure TLC shows the most outrageous moments for sure. I also don''t really care about all the help they get...I''d be grateful for anything if I had 8 kids to rear! It is expected that people will criticize them about their parenting, behavior, etc. because they are on TV, but I would never criticize someone''s choice to have children as long as they take responsibility for them.

 

[Tacori E-ring]

Why is alexis sleeping in the basement?

 

[Sha]

Date: 7/28/2008 3:43:56 PM
Author: february2003bride

Date: 7/28/2008 1:06:40 PM
Author: IndyGirl22

Date: 7/28/2008 12:46:36 PM
Author: NYCsparkle
i think that it is unfair to judge kate from a 1/2 hour show. i don't know how calm, cool, and collected i'd be with 8 kids. there are days i lose patience with 1 child. she is a bit controlling at times and says things that sound harsh, but she does have 8 kids!!!

sometimes i think jon acts insensitive and unaffectionate towards them. i do wonder what life will be like for the kids once the cameras stop rolling---especially mady who seems to enjoy the limelight.
i made monkey munch this weekend and it was a big hit at my sons b-day party.

I agree...I went to that blog site run by Jodi's sister and I must say I found a huge lack of maturity and an immense amount of hatred within its pages. Julie obviously feels a need to talk about the Gosselins on a public forum to encourage negative feelings towards the family. Whether or not she gets along with/likes/wants to see the Gosselins is irrelevant IMHO - I don't know why she feels she needs to tell strangers about the personal details of another person's lifetyle...if I didn't like my sister's SIL the last thing I would do is start up a website about it. It seems very unhealthy and counterproductive to constantly and publicly berate and criticize your own family. Everyone's focused on how Kate's parenting will affect the kids, but what about when they see these sites managed by their own FAMILY? The comments from people who visit the site were disturbing as well, especially the ones asking 'Why did she have 8 kids?' and complaining about public assistance for the family. I guess these posters would've preferred her to abort 5 babies and say the same thing to any recipient of government assistance. I think those types of comments are entirely ignorant and hypocritical...are they really objecting to someone's right to have sextuplets (not their choice)?!

Hm, I've never read anyone say that but I wouldn't be surprised if there were extremists who are saying that out on blogs.

What most people have an issue with regarding Jon and Kate wanting so many free items and monetary contributions (or what J&K call 'love offerings') is that Kate purposely got pregnant with multiples they couldn't afford. Kate took fertlity drugs, hyperovulated and ended up in the hospital. Her dr. did an ultrasound, saw she had 7+ eggs and refused to do the IUI because she would surely get pregnant with more than twins or triplets and the Gosselin's were very upfront about being against selective reduction. Kate fired her dr., was released shortly after and got pregnant at home. So she knew she could possibly get pregnant with high order mulitples that they couldn't afford. She found out a couple of weeks later that she was pregnant with 7 (1 baby never developed) with her NEW dr., who did NOT do the IUI.

Personally, I don't care if a woman gets pregnant with HOM, if they can afford them and truely care and love them any any challenges that come with premature babies. I think Jon and Kate ARE great parents, but somewhere during the season of their show, they lost perspective of WHY they were doing the show.

Just curious...where did you find that info, february2003bride? I'd never heard that before. What I heard her say on the show was that she did the IUI and got pregnant. Then when she went back to the doctor, he realized they were seven embroyos in her womb. She said that she and Jon were very shocked, and even started crying in the doctor's office, because their plan was to only have one more child. They were opposed to selective reduction, though, and so went ahead with having all of the babies .

I've never heard she intentionally got pregnant knowing she had seven eggs that could turn into babies..? I would be interested in reading that source, though.... I could see why people would get upset if she went about it THAT way.

 

[february2003bride]

Date: 7/29/2008 6:51:13 PM
Author: Sha

Date: 7/28/2008 3:43:56 PM
Author: february2003bride

Date: 7/28/2008 1:06:40 PM
Author: IndyGirl22

Date: 7/28/2008 12:46:36 PM
Author: NYCsparkle
i think that it is unfair to judge kate from a 1/2 hour show. i don''t know how calm, cool, and collected i''d be with 8 kids. there are days i lose patience with 1 child. she is a bit controlling at times and says things that sound harsh, but she does have 8 kids!!!

sometimes i think jon acts insensitive and unaffectionate towards them. i do wonder what life will be like for the kids once the cameras stop rolling---especially mady who seems to enjoy the limelight.
i made monkey munch this weekend and it was a big hit at my sons b-day party.

I agree...I went to that blog site run by Jodi''s sister and I must say I found a huge lack of maturity and an immense amount of hatred within its pages. Julie obviously feels a need to talk about the Gosselins on a public forum to encourage negative feelings towards the family. Whether or not she gets along with/likes/wants to see the Gosselins is irrelevant IMHO - I don''t know why she feels she needs to tell strangers about the personal details of another person''s lifetyle...if I didn''t like my sister''s SIL the last thing I would do is start up a website about it. It seems very unhealthy and counterproductive to constantly and publicly berate and criticize your own family. Everyone''s focused on how Kate''s parenting will affect the kids, but what about when they see these sites managed by their own FAMILY? The comments from people who visit the site were disturbing as well, especially the ones asking ''Why did she have 8 kids?'' and complaining about public assistance for the family. I guess these posters would''ve preferred her to abort 5 babies and say the same thing to any recipient of government assistance. I think those types of comments are entirely ignorant and hypocritical...are they really objecting to someone''s right to have sextuplets (not their choice)?!

Hm, I''ve never read anyone say that but I wouldn''t be surprised if there were extremists who are saying that out on blogs.

What most people have an issue with regarding Jon and Kate wanting so many free items and monetary contributions (or what J&K call ''love offerings'') is that Kate purposely got pregnant with multiples they couldn''t afford. Kate took fertlity drugs, hyperovulated and ended up in the hospital. Her dr. did an ultrasound, saw she had 7+ eggs and refused to do the IUI because she would surely get pregnant with more than twins or triplets and the Gosselin''s were very upfront about being against selective reduction. Kate fired her dr., was released shortly after and got pregnant at home. So she knew she could possibly get pregnant with high order mulitples that they couldn''t afford. She found out a couple of weeks later that she was pregnant with 7 (1 baby never developed) with her NEW dr., who did NOT do the IUI.

Personally, I don''t care if a woman gets pregnant with HOM, if they can afford them and truely care and love them any any challenges that come with premature babies. I think Jon and Kate ARE great parents, but somewhere during the season of their show, they lost perspective of WHY they were doing the show.

Just curious...where did you find that info, february2003bride? I''d never heard that before. What I heard her say on the show was that she did the IUI and got pregnant. Then when she went back to the doctor, he realized they were seven embroyos in her womb. She said that she and Jon were very shocked, and even started crying in the doctor''s office, because their plan was to only have one more child. They were opposed to selective reduction, though, and so went ahead with having all of the babies .

I''ve never heard she intentionally got pregnant knowing she had seven eggs that could turn into babies..? I would be interested in reading that source, though.... I could see why people would get upset if she went about it THAT way.

www.jk8forum.com

 

[february2003bride]

Date: 7/29/2008 4:53:14 PM
Author: Tacori E-ring
Why is alexis sleeping in the basement?

Because she was waking up the other children at night. Instead of finding other solutions (cutting out her nap time so she''s tired, having her sleep in J&K''s room in a sleeping bag, etc), they decided to have her sleep alone in the basement with the door closed.

 

[Tacori E-ring]

Date: 7/29/2008 7:31:07 PM
Author: february2003bride

Date: 7/29/2008 4:53:14 PM

Author: Tacori E-ring

Why is alexis sleeping in the basement?

Because she was waking up the other children at night. Instead of finding other solutions (cutting out her nap time so she''s tired, having her sleep in J&K''s room in a sleeping bag, etc), they decided to have her sleep alone in the basement with the door closed.

Seems very, very odd...

 

[Sha]

Date: 7/29/2008 7:29:29 PM
Author: february2003bride

Date: 7/29/2008 6:51:13 PM
Author: Sha

Date: 7/28/2008 3:43:56 PM
Author: february2003bride

Date: 7/28/2008 1:06:40 PM
Author: IndyGirl22

Date: 7/28/2008 12:46:36 PM
Author: NYCsparkle
i think that it is unfair to judge kate from a 1/2 hour show. i don''t know how calm, cool, and collected i''d be with 8 kids. there are days i lose patience with 1 child. she is a bit controlling at times and says things that sound harsh, but she does have 8 kids!!!

sometimes i think jon acts insensitive and unaffectionate towards them. i do wonder what life will be like for the kids once the cameras stop rolling---especially mady who seems to enjoy the limelight.
i made monkey munch this weekend and it was a big hit at my sons b-day party.

I agree...I went to that blog site run by Jodi''s sister and I must say I found a huge lack of maturity and an immense amount of hatred within its pages. Julie obviously feels a need to talk about the Gosselins on a public forum to encourage negative feelings towards the family. Whether or not she gets along with/likes/wants to see the Gosselins is irrelevant IMHO - I don''t know why she feels she needs to tell strangers about the personal details of another person''s lifetyle...if I didn''t like my sister''s SIL the last thing I would do is start up a website about it. It seems very unhealthy and counterproductive to constantly and publicly berate and criticize your own family. Everyone''s focused on how Kate''s parenting will affect the kids, but what about when they see these sites managed by their own FAMILY? The comments from people who visit the site were disturbing as well, especially the ones asking ''Why did she have 8 kids?'' and complaining about public assistance for the family. I guess these posters would''ve preferred her to abort 5 babies and say the same thing to any recipient of government assistance. I think those types of comments are entirely ignorant and hypocritical...are they really objecting to someone''s right to have sextuplets (not their choice)?!

Hm, I''ve never read anyone say that but I wouldn''t be surprised if there were extremists who are saying that out on blogs.

What most people have an issue with regarding Jon and Kate wanting so many free items and monetary contributions (or what J&K call ''love offerings'') is that Kate purposely got pregnant with multiples they couldn''t afford. Kate took fertlity drugs, hyperovulated and ended up in the hospital. Her dr. did an ultrasound, saw she had 7+ eggs and refused to do the IUI because she would surely get pregnant with more than twins or triplets and the Gosselin''s were very upfront about being against selective reduction. Kate fired her dr., was released shortly after and got pregnant at home. So she knew she could possibly get pregnant with high order mulitples that they couldn''t afford. She found out a couple of weeks later that she was pregnant with 7 (1 baby never developed) with her NEW dr., who did NOT do the IUI.

Personally, I don''t care if a woman gets pregnant with HOM, if they can afford them and truely care and love them any any challenges that come with premature babies. I think Jon and Kate ARE great parents, but somewhere during the season of their show, they lost perspective of WHY they were doing the show.

Just curious...where did you find that info, february2003bride? I''d never heard that before. What I heard her say on the show was that she did the IUI and got pregnant. Then when she went back to the doctor, he realized they were seven embroyos in her womb. She said that she and Jon were very shocked, and even started crying in the doctor''s office, because their plan was to only have one more child. They were opposed to selective reduction, though, and so went ahead with having all of the babies .

I''ve never heard she intentionally got pregnant knowing she had seven eggs that could turn into babies..? I would be interested in reading that source, though.... I could see why people would get upset if she went about it THAT way.

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Thanks for posting that. I wonder how accurate that description of events is though..... ? Was it quoted from Jon and Kate or other reliable source? I''m more inclined to believe what Kate actually said on the Show.

 

[Anna0499]

Date: 7/29/2008 8:42:24 PM
Author: Sha

Date: 7/29/2008 7:29:29 PM
Author: february2003bride

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Thanks for posting that. I wonder how accurate that description of events is though..... ? Was it quoted from Jon and Kate or other reliable source? I''m more inclined to believe what Kate actually said on the Show.

Yeah, it''s interesting information if it''s true, but from what I saw (which isn''t much because the site kinda scared me) it looks like a forum where anyone can post things...do Jon & Kate post there? Is the Alexis sleeping in the basement thing from that site, too?

 

[Tacori E-ring]

Indy, I saw the thing about Alexis on the show.

 

[Anna0499]

Date: 7/29/2008 9:15:13 PM
Author: Tacori E-ring
Indy, I saw the thing about Alexis on the show.

Oh okay! That IS kind of odd...I wonder if they''ll find a better solution as she gets older. My parents always kept us under lock and key, but as far as her getting kidnapped is concerned, I didn''t really see any windows in their basement so I think the odds of someone breaking into their house just to kidnap her is probably not as significant as if there was an separate entryway to the basement.

 

[mrssalvo]

Kate is a nurse. she''d know the risks involved with fertility treatments as well as the risk of carrying and delivering 6 healthy babies and my guess would be she would not intentially have gotten preggo with 7. there are only 14 sets of 6''s currently in the US so it''s not like the odds of her having 6 are low even if she somehow could have waved a wand and made it happen.

I''ve not seen the episode with alexis in the basement. That is weird to me.

 

[Tacori E-ring]

Date: 7/29/2008 9:46:02 PM
Author: IndyGirl22

Date: 7/29/2008 9:15:13 PM

Author: Tacori E-ring

Indy, I saw the thing about Alexis on the show.

Oh okay! That IS kind of odd...I wonder if they''ll find a better solution as she gets older. My parents always kept us under lock and key, but as far as her getting kidnapped is concerned, I didn''t really see any windows in their basement so I think the odds of someone breaking into their house just to kidnap her is probably not as significant as if there was an separate entryway to the basement.

Honestly I never really thought about the kidnapping issue but about the isolation issue. She is still a little girl. What if something happens. Seems so far away. Seems like they have more than 3 rooms (parents, boys, girls) they could have her sleep in. I don''t know. I just saw the episode where they watched a movie in the basement and people were on A''s bed....she was freaking out and trying to push them off....weird.

 

[february2003bride]

Date: 7/29/2008 9:46:02 PM
Author: IndyGirl22

Date: 7/29/2008 9:15:13 PM
Author: Tacori E-ring
Indy, I saw the thing about Alexis on the show.

Oh okay! That IS kind of odd...I wonder if they''ll find a better solution as she gets older. My parents always kept us under lock and key, but as far as her getting kidnapped is concerned, I didn''t really see any windows in their basement so I think the odds of someone breaking into their house just to kidnap her is probably not as significant as if there was an separate entryway to the basement.

There is a walkout door in the basement. The concern when people saw the Alexis in the basement epi was that anyone who watches the show, knows the exact layout of their house. And then J&K pubically say that Alexis sleeps in the basement with the door closed at night, especially when it''s known that there are pedophiles that watch the show and the youtube videos (which I''ve never seen, so this is just from what I''ve read) were put together of the kids naked (supposedly one of Hannah specifically) was view 12,000 times before it was removed from youtube . I''ve got to believe that they have a security system and with her sleeping in the basement, that there''s some (hopefully) heavy duty locks on the basement door.

I would be more worried it there was a fire, they have 8 children to get out. J&K sleep on the main floor, 7 of the 8 kids sleep upstairs with Mady and Cara sleeping the furthest away in the renovated attic. Alexis is alone in the basement (lights off and door closed).

 

[anitabee]

oh my GAWD! the amount of disdain for this show (particularly kate) is unbelievable! i''m a mom to a 3-yr-old and 6-month-old and GOOD GOD, it''s super tough. i''m not a perfect mother by any means but really, i''m impressed by kate''s skills. SHE IS A MOM TO *8* KIDS! give her a break!

i actually love the show and watch it as much as i can. if i were her, i''d be a wreck on the verge of falling apart. good for her and jon for keeping it together. and the fear of kidnapping?!! really?! so many houses have kids living all over the place (on pull-out beds, basements, etc). that''s really no big deal whatsoever!

remember folks: nobody''s perfect and really, she''s quite a good mom. i like to consider myself a pretty good mom but we all have our moments.

 

[Tacori E-ring]

anita, I think people have a problem with profiting off her kids and the way she treats other people (mainly her husband).

 

[NYCsparkle]

it seems kate is more "easy going" this season than previous ones. i guess as the kids get older they are slightly easier to handle. last weeks episode had kate defending alexis sleeping in the basement whichh seemed very forced...prob because of the backlash. basically she said alexis wants to sleep there. i wouldn''t want my kids scattered all over the house at night though...there are too many what if''s that run through my mind.