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I watch it all the time too. The kiddies are sooo cute! And some of the things they say...!
I think Madelyn can be a bit of a brat, though. As far as Jon and Kate - their interaction is interesting to watch. I really like the fact that, even with eight children, they make an excellent effort to create fun, memorable experiences for their children - like going apple picking, pumpkin hunting etc.
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OMG I *ADORE* the show! I love all the kids, even Mady (although she is my least favorite). It's so interesting to see their different personalities. I think Jon is so funny and has a great laidback attitude to complement Kate's high-strung personality. The kids say the most hilarious things as well. What's your favorite episode/moment?
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I LOVE that show and fall in love with those babies every single time I see them! I adore Alexis and Aaden! Lately I''ve had a hard time tolerating Kate''s attitude toward Jon. He seems a little bullied by her! That''s why I''m so glad when he gets one in on her every now and then, too!
I love the episode where Aaden is sick and has a bucket on his tummy while he''s lying on the couch, and Alexis comes over and says "Aaden''s my buddy." And starts petting him! Then Hannah comes over and tries to touch him and Alexis says, "No! Him throw up on your hand!" and Hannah says, "No him won''t!" And they have a little screaming slap fight, while Alexis is STILL petting Aaden. Love it.
I love the episode where Aaden is sick and has a bucket on his tummy while he''s lying on the couch, and Alexis comes over and says "Aaden''s my buddy." And starts petting him! Then Hannah comes over and tries to touch him and Alexis says, "No! Him throw up on your hand!" and Hannah says, "No him won''t!" And they have a little screaming slap fight, while Alexis is STILL petting Aaden. Love it.
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LOL that is such a funny scene! I love Alexis & Aaden too - Facebook has an Aaden Fanclub lol. I overlook most of Kate's snide remarks to Jon, but that one time when they were in the Crayola factory and she SCREAMED his name across the room...I was beside myself...it was so inconsiderate of everyone else that was at the place that day and probably made him feel like a wimp. I do think that he kind of "likes the abuse" though.
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I also love this show and watch it all the time. However, I read an article not to long ago about how alot of people are anti-Goesslins. And I do kinda agree with some of the things it said, I guess they have increased their production schedule so there are camera''s there all the time. And there are no laws protecting ''reality child actors''. SO as much as I love the show, I wonder what it will do to the kids when the show is over, or when their friends at school make fun of them for watching their meltdowns and pictures with their poop. I also wonder now that neither parents have jobs if they will put the pressure on to keep filming, as the kids are kinda the gravy train. I''m sure they are doing what they feel is best for the kids, as all of us that are parents do, but since reading the article I watch the show with a bit more jaded eyes.
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Yeah, I''ve seen some of the stuff people write about the family, but most of it seems to be people''s misplaced need to tell the Gosselins how to run their family. I would be more concerned if the kids''s parents were not there 24/7 and they were just actors on another show instead of living their everyday lives with a few staged fieldtrips. I really don''t think the kids will have all the feared psychological problems when they grow up because their parents were there every step of the way and I truly believe that they just want what is best for them so I think they''ll be okay. I couldn''t see anyone making fun of them for benig on TV...who doesn''t have embarrassing photos of their childhood? I don''t think it would be much different than going to a friend''s house and having their mom show you pictures of your friend naked in the bathtub or whatever.
I wasn''t aware that Jon wasn''t working anymore...did he just quit or?
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Such a cute show... even hubby will watch with me! This is one of the only shows that I can watch the same episode more than once (the other ones are Sex and the City and Three''s Company!
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I like Hannah, the one they describe as the Little Mommy. It''s so cute when the parents are leaving and she tells them "I''ll take care of the kids." She also helps fold the laundry! So stinkin'' cute!
I like Hannah, the one they describe as the Little Mommy. It''s so cute when the parents are leaving and she tells them "I''ll take care of the kids." She also helps fold the laundry! So stinkin'' cute!
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I''m a fan of the show but also know alot of the negativity towards the Gosselin''s. Sadly, a LOT of of it is warranted (andn o it''s not from jealousy).
This website welcomes all J&K fans, but once you get to the inner circle (by reaching 50 posts), you get privy to a LOT more information about just how greeding and about the entitlement Kate feels: www.jk8forum.com
And Julie, Aunt Jodi''s sister (who won''t be on the show anymore) started a blog to defend her sister: http://truthbreedshatred.blogspot.com/
Kate has alienated her family, her neighbors, church members and total strangers who wanted to help them when the ''tups were first born. They recently cancelled most of the church and multiples convention appearances for 2 reasons: 1) they are no longer booking their own appearances but have a PR firm to do it, and the PR firm requires any organization that wants to book J&K (not the kids), pay a $25K booking fee, first class plane tickets, all travel expenses paid and tickets to be charged. They also sell pictures of the kids for $20 to go towards the kids college funds (which, although J&K say they have NONE of, that''s not true. The state of PA has 1 collective college fund for all 6 kids and yes, there is $$$$ in it!).
The 2nd reason: The negative press. The few appearances that they did not cancel, Kate will not be going too, only Jon. TLC, Figure 8 (who handles production of the show) and J&K can''t take a chance that any of the many many many people will show up to call Kate out on her behavior and ungratefulness and questionable parenting to towards the kids.
My kids and I are fans of the show but so much has happened by Kate''s own doing (not so much Jon) that the negative press is brought on by herself.
The most recent? Kate did a hit and run
She hit another car with one of the vans and left the scene. The driver was able to get her license plate number and last week, Kate was visited by the police.
This website welcomes all J&K fans, but once you get to the inner circle (by reaching 50 posts), you get privy to a LOT more information about just how greeding and about the entitlement Kate feels: www.jk8forum.com
And Julie, Aunt Jodi''s sister (who won''t be on the show anymore) started a blog to defend her sister: http://truthbreedshatred.blogspot.com/
Kate has alienated her family, her neighbors, church members and total strangers who wanted to help them when the ''tups were first born. They recently cancelled most of the church and multiples convention appearances for 2 reasons: 1) they are no longer booking their own appearances but have a PR firm to do it, and the PR firm requires any organization that wants to book J&K (not the kids), pay a $25K booking fee, first class plane tickets, all travel expenses paid and tickets to be charged. They also sell pictures of the kids for $20 to go towards the kids college funds (which, although J&K say they have NONE of, that''s not true. The state of PA has 1 collective college fund for all 6 kids and yes, there is $$$$ in it!).
The 2nd reason: The negative press. The few appearances that they did not cancel, Kate will not be going too, only Jon. TLC, Figure 8 (who handles production of the show) and J&K can''t take a chance that any of the many many many people will show up to call Kate out on her behavior and ungratefulness and questionable parenting to towards the kids.
My kids and I are fans of the show but so much has happened by Kate''s own doing (not so much Jon) that the negative press is brought on by herself.
The most recent? Kate did a hit and run
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Yes, between the camera crews there more often then not now, and they''ve installed the huge lights on all of the ceilings, and most recently, there is now a camera in the kids rooms.
The biggest concern right now is that Alexis is sleeping in the basement. Every Tom, Dick and Harry that watches the show enough knows the entire layout of the house. J&K make Alexis sleep in the basement, alone, with the door closed. People are really concerned that she''ll be kidnapped!
Jon did quit his job with the PA State Gov. office (he said in 1 episode that he was now working for Beth''s husband Bob, which wasn''t true. He had actually quit his job so he and Kate can travel- sans kids- to be motivational appearances. And Beth won''t be on the show any longer as well.). Kate has said many times that she can do this show forever. If I remember correctly, one of the reasons this season will have 50 episodes (yes, (50) 30 minute episodes!) is because TLC will be buying/has bought the Gosselin''s land and will be building them a house (which is rumored ot be in NC, not PA where they currently are.).
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When Kate was pregnant and hospitalized with the ''tups, Jon was fired from his job. While he was unemployed, Jon''s wealthy father (who has since passed) supported them for quite some time. Jon was then hired as an IT analyst with the Gov. of PA state''s office. He quit that job. I believe there was one more job inbetween but a few months back he quit that job to travel with Kate to be motivational speakers. Also, with them ranking in a rumored $65K an episodes, plus speaking fees, plus selling the kids pictures at $20 each, plus Kate consigning ALL of the donated clothes and items that she had/has received, they are quite well off now.
Through TLC, they currently get:
A personal organic chef
several nannies that are not seen on the show
a cleaning service
Kate has an assistant to run all of her errands (and no, it''s not Jon
majority of the kids clothes are donated (which, instead of donating them herself, Kate sells. Supposidly she has an ebay name in addition to consigning them for money)
All of the episodes where they have gone somewhere (Crayola Factory, the Zoo, Walk Disney World, being flown to Utah for the week) everything is paid 100%. In August, they are being flown to Hawaii for 2 weeks where J&K will do a wedding vow renewal. Jon has family there (literally, the only ones that are speaking to the family still) and they will be seeing them (cousins).
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Wow. That''s all really sad, but not really surprising. You could see how they''ve changed over the years (Jon seems a little less grabby and "I deserve this" acting). It''s sad because I just adore those kids so much, but that 4th birthday episode and the one with the Favorite and Most Embarrassing moments really showed Kate''s true colors. I mean, not letting the boys eat their cupcakes THEY decorated on their birthday, while the GIRLS got to eat theirs? Come on. She''s just so critical of everything, and it''s like, pot calling the kettle black much?
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I know Amber
When I first started watching the show, I loveed how they had a loving bickering quality to them, that so many couples have. Yes they bickered but it wasn''t mean in any way. Now, Kate is just flat out MEAN. I also loved how normal they seemed. Chaotic, but normal. This season and by the end of last season, something changed. The kids are still adorable and precious and MY kids love watching them!
But the "GumGate" episode where Kate was HORRIBLE to Collin (and Jon totally set up Collin to take the wrath of Kate
), the birthday episode where the girls got to eat their cupcakes but not the boys (and Kate''s obvious disdain for the boys recently, and favoritising the girls), the Embarrassing Moments episode where Kate was so condescending to Jon and all of her embarassimong moments were caused by Jon. My husband dislikes Kate''s attitude toward Jon so much, that he refuses to be in the same toom when the kids and I watch the show!
But the "GumGate" episode where Kate was HORRIBLE to Collin (and Jon totally set up Collin to take the wrath of Kate
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Feb, MINE too! My husband comes in and goes, "Ooooh, not her again." He just gets so angry when he sees how she treats the kids and Jon. It's just painful to watch now!
Oh, when Kate said she was tossing Collin's blanket. And Mady came to his defense? You KNOW it must have been cruel for Mady to actually forget herself for a moment and defend one of the youngers.
Oh, when Kate said she was tossing Collin's blanket. And Mady came to his defense? You KNOW it must have been cruel for Mady to actually forget herself for a moment and defend one of the youngers.
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Okay, I''m a huge fan of the show, but haven''t watched it in awhile since we canned our cable - so I''ve missed the cupcake episode. DH and I talked about this soooo much when we used to watch it. Is it fair that the kids are on camera? What must they really be like? How much money do they get? etc...
Here''s my take - Jon and Kate are normal human beings who took an opportunity that will give their kids a lot of experiences that they wouldn''t have otherwise had. If I somehow ended up with 8 children and had the financial ability to take care of 3, I''d be heartbroken and would look to ANY resource I could to take care of my kids - and yupp, I''d do the reality TV. And I''d come off like a total banshee - much worse than Kate does.
Yes, of course the clothes are donated (matching GAP sweatshirts to go to the pumpkin patch?) and they DO make mention of that in the show (like the trip to Utah). They have made their children''s lives a little more complicated with the show - and I see no problem with them being treated like movie stars (does anyone get upset that Brangelina has 3 nannies also?). I can''t imagine how strained friendships or family relationships can be when you have camera crews in your house - think of all the problems PSers have with friends and family and we''re normal people. That''s normal. Sure, it''s sad that their families are no longer close, but that could have easily happened without TLC (plenty of PS posts about family/friend situations come to mind - stress on friendships/family relationships just happen). A close friend of mine is one of 7 and what I''ve learned through the years of knowing her family is that it''s impossible, no matter how much money you have or don''t have, to not have family drama when you''ve got a fam that big, and though I think her parents did the best they could, they did lots of things that made me think that there was something wrong in their water.
I think the criticism of her parenting is a little unfair, and I would rather watch Kate say something to Jon out of exasperation of a REAL situation, that see all of the HORRIBLE mothers/wives that are SCRIPTED on non-reality TV. I mean, if we really look at how the wife on Everybody Loves Raymond or King of Queens treats her spouse, it''s absolutely disgusting. At the very least, you can tell that Jon and Kate have a loving family at the end of the day.
Here''s my take - Jon and Kate are normal human beings who took an opportunity that will give their kids a lot of experiences that they wouldn''t have otherwise had. If I somehow ended up with 8 children and had the financial ability to take care of 3, I''d be heartbroken and would look to ANY resource I could to take care of my kids - and yupp, I''d do the reality TV. And I''d come off like a total banshee - much worse than Kate does.
Yes, of course the clothes are donated (matching GAP sweatshirts to go to the pumpkin patch?) and they DO make mention of that in the show (like the trip to Utah). They have made their children''s lives a little more complicated with the show - and I see no problem with them being treated like movie stars (does anyone get upset that Brangelina has 3 nannies also?). I can''t imagine how strained friendships or family relationships can be when you have camera crews in your house - think of all the problems PSers have with friends and family and we''re normal people. That''s normal. Sure, it''s sad that their families are no longer close, but that could have easily happened without TLC (plenty of PS posts about family/friend situations come to mind - stress on friendships/family relationships just happen). A close friend of mine is one of 7 and what I''ve learned through the years of knowing her family is that it''s impossible, no matter how much money you have or don''t have, to not have family drama when you''ve got a fam that big, and though I think her parents did the best they could, they did lots of things that made me think that there was something wrong in their water.
I think the criticism of her parenting is a little unfair, and I would rather watch Kate say something to Jon out of exasperation of a REAL situation, that see all of the HORRIBLE mothers/wives that are SCRIPTED on non-reality TV. I mean, if we really look at how the wife on Everybody Loves Raymond or King of Queens treats her spouse, it''s absolutely disgusting. At the very least, you can tell that Jon and Kate have a loving family at the end of the day.
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I had no idea as a casual / occassional observer that there was so much behind the scenes Gosselin drama. I have to admit though, I can never figure out how Jon deals with Kate. She is always SO condescending toward him, not to mention the kids. Wonder what she is like when the cameras are off?!?! And it really does seem that she is milking her kids for all they''re worth, which is.... um, not endearing.
The kids are adorable though! They seem very sweet.
The kids are adorable though! They seem very sweet.
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Elmorton, I can totally understand your thinking, but in the last few seasons Kate has become really cruel to her kids and Jon, and it truly seems like she's no longer doing what's good for her family, but what's good for HER ($$$$). I've never seen a parent who has treated her children so cruelly, claiming it's for their own good, and that's just how it is. I dunno, I used to nanny and I baby-sat for many many years, and while having all those children, and having cameras around her 24/7 it still doesn't justify how she acts. They've made more than enough doing the show now, and will make enough doing public speaking and marketing her books and children that I don't see a need to be so greedy with what is essentially the kids lives. From what I've seen on the show and on different venues they've spoken at, a big part of their lives are hypocritical. They have no problems letting the kids eat ice cream for dinner for a "special day", but when it's their birthdays and they want to eat the cupcakes they decorated themselves Kate will only let the kids who finished most of their dinner eat the cupcakes, who happen to be the girls- directly in front of the boys. I don't think that's very fair. On their birthday?
I just feel bad for the children because even though the show is about them, it seems they're the ones who are getting the short end of the stick and will suffer the repercussions . I just think it's odd that so many of their friends and family no longer want anything to do with them, seems like a strange coincidence. It used to be a fun show, but over the seasons it's become a little cattier to Jon, more critical of certain children, and a little more product-placement. It's not fun for me anymore, now that the kids are older I just imagine all the problems they may end up having later, and that makes me sad.
ETA: Should I have a camera on me 24/7 I don't think I'd come off as a saint either, but it was a choice to expose your family to that. It seems like doing what is best for their family has turned into getting whatever they can for free and how much money that can get.
I just feel bad for the children because even though the show is about them, it seems they're the ones who are getting the short end of the stick and will suffer the repercussions . I just think it's odd that so many of their friends and family no longer want anything to do with them, seems like a strange coincidence. It used to be a fun show, but over the seasons it's become a little cattier to Jon, more critical of certain children, and a little more product-placement. It's not fun for me anymore, now that the kids are older I just imagine all the problems they may end up having later, and that makes me sad.
ETA: Should I have a camera on me 24/7 I don't think I'd come off as a saint either, but it was a choice to expose your family to that. It seems like doing what is best for their family has turned into getting whatever they can for free and how much money that can get.
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i watch it sometimes. honestly, I cannot imagine what it would be like to have camera''s around all the time but I''m sure I wouldn''t come across as the worlds best mom 24/7. In many ways i wish I''d have so many life memories on film, which was the original reason they did the show. I don''t blame them for taking advantage of some of the perks the show offers. i know how much it cost to raise 3 kids so 8 would be very difficult on many families and the show has provided them opportunities they wouldn''t have had most likely.
I would never yell at my hubby the way Kate does but many marriages function that way. i do know what''s it''s like to be out in public with kids having a melt down, feeling helpless and overwhelmed and can''t find my hubby. it''s easy to judge them and by doing the show they will have to accept the judgement but all in all I think they love their kids and are doing their best. I know I haven''t always been consistent with my kids either. that''s one reason i like the show, i can see some things that they do right and wrong and can learn from it myself.
I would never yell at my hubby the way Kate does but many marriages function that way. i do know what''s it''s like to be out in public with kids having a melt down, feeling helpless and overwhelmed and can''t find my hubby. it''s easy to judge them and by doing the show they will have to accept the judgement but all in all I think they love their kids and are doing their best. I know I haven''t always been consistent with my kids either. that''s one reason i like the show, i can see some things that they do right and wrong and can learn from it myself.
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I agree. Of course TLC isn''t going to show us when Kate is being sweet to Jon (I highly doubt this NEVER happens), because it doesn''t make good TV. Just like they won''t show episodes of the kids watching TV and sleeping all day because it''s not fun to watch. No one would watch the show if Jon & Kate were the cookie cutter couple & I''m sure that if Jon minded that much then he would''ve left a long time ago before the babies even came. Different couples get along in different ways and just because your DH wouldn''t like having Kate as a wife doesn''t mean Jon doesn''t. TLC obviously knows about the "Anti-Gosselin" movement and use that to their advantage in what they show. No such thing as bad publicity! If I had 8 kids and a recently fired husband, I would certainly be trying to find income from every source possible, and I won''t fault them for that. There are much worse parents out in the world today, using their children to make money in far worse ways, so giving children trips to Disney, free clothes, and a nice home with space to run isn''t something I will criticize. As for the cupcake thing...if you''ve ever worked with kids you will know that what Jon & Kate said was true about them not even remembering them the next day, and I highly doubt any long-term damage was done from it. What they WILL remember is that they need to eat their dinner to get dessert, no matter what it is.
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