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Isn't this old news?
Last I heard there was no cheating, but TLC let the rumors fly to hype up their finale (and even exploited it a bit with their commercials).
In the finale they discussed his desire to discontinue the series, and her desire to keep it going. So the drama is that he hates doing the show, not that he cheated.
Of course, with the ever-present disclaimer that no one knows what goes on behind closed doors........
Last I heard there was no cheating, but TLC let the rumors fly to hype up their finale (and even exploited it a bit with their commercials).
In the finale they discussed his desire to discontinue the series, and her desire to keep it going. So the drama is that he hates doing the show, not that he cheated.
Of course, with the ever-present disclaimer that no one knows what goes on behind closed doors........
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I think Kate is annoying and must be VERY difficult to live with. Also 8 kids HAS to be stressful as is always having a camera crew in your face. I am not defending his behavior if he is cheating on her but can see how it could EASILY happen. Maybe more so b/c he is a semi celeb. Still sad to hear.
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I agree that Kate is difficult, but she''s the primary caregiver of the kids and I feel like he has completely checked out of the relationship and his role as a father. So I feel bad for her. I can also see how it could happen though and I feel bad for him. I guess it''s just one big pity party...
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I read this on People a couple of hours ago, but didn''t see any pictures to support he may have cheated? Is there a link to those?
Kate is controlling. Kate is stressed. Kate can be a huge pain in the dupah...in fact, I feel like she got more and more disrespectful towards John as the show progressed. It got to the point where I felt embarrassed for John because she was often making fun of him and being condescending towards him. I couldn''t blame him if the thought of cheating crossed his mind, but he seems so committed to his family that I would be really, really shocked if he did.
Kate is controlling. Kate is stressed. Kate can be a huge pain in the dupah...in fact, I feel like she got more and more disrespectful towards John as the show progressed. It got to the point where I felt embarrassed for John because she was often making fun of him and being condescending towards him. I couldn''t blame him if the thought of cheating crossed his mind, but he seems so committed to his family that I would be really, really shocked if he did.
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His statement:
Jon tells Extra, “Like most people I have male and female friends and I’m not going to end my friendships just because I’m on TV. However, being out with them late at night, showed poor judgement on my part. What makes me sick, is that my careless behavior has put my family in this uncomfortable position. My family is the most important thing in my life and it kills me that these allegations have hurt them.”
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Jon tells Extra, “Like most people I have male and female friends and I’m not going to end my friendships just because I’m on TV. However, being out with them late at night, showed poor judgement on my part. What makes me sick, is that my careless behavior has put my family in this uncomfortable position. My family is the most important thing in my life and it kills me that these allegations have hurt them.”
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Well, it could happen...to anyone....not just someone with an intense wife and 8 children. So I''m not overly surprised.
Truthfully, if you watch the show, you can see him pulling away ... more so as the seasons go by. He looks tired, worn down, and burnt out. And I fear that maybe Kate has pushed forward with the show, books, and publicity out of her wants and not what is best for her family.
I hope, for the children, things can work out between them...but, sometimes things get so broken they are simply beyond repair. According to Access Hollywood, neighbors of the pair are saying that John lives above the garage in an apartment....
So, who knows....
Truthfully, if you watch the show, you can see him pulling away ... more so as the seasons go by. He looks tired, worn down, and burnt out. And I fear that maybe Kate has pushed forward with the show, books, and publicity out of her wants and not what is best for her family.
I hope, for the children, things can work out between them...but, sometimes things get so broken they are simply beyond repair. According to Access Hollywood, neighbors of the pair are saying that John lives above the garage in an apartment....
So, who knows....
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Yeah, John is a good father. He is far more laid back than Kate (but compaired to her, who wouldn't anyone be???) and seems to be more "real" with the kids than she is.
Kate is a hard pill to swallow. Shes very set in her ways...and everything needs to be her way all the time. It's appears to be a rough life and very exhusting. I don't understand, for the life of me, why she would have 8 children when she seems to be frazzled easily. If that's just "her" then why would she not only have 8 babies, but also sign up to do a television show in her home??? Just the basics of that seem overwhelming...even without experiencing it for myself. Kate must be very motivated by money, or fame...because it's a recipe for disaster.
Kate is a hard pill to swallow. Shes very set in her ways...and everything needs to be her way all the time. It's appears to be a rough life and very exhusting. I don't understand, for the life of me, why she would have 8 children when she seems to be frazzled easily. If that's just "her" then why would she not only have 8 babies, but also sign up to do a television show in her home??? Just the basics of that seem overwhelming...even without experiencing it for myself. Kate must be very motivated by money, or fame...because it's a recipe for disaster.
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I actually got to meet Kate at a book signing last weekend in my town. I''ve read most of her book (still finishing it). She also answered questions to the audience at the signing before coming down to the signing area.
Cliff notes: She had PCOS, so they tried fertility treatments and had the twins. They were actually really happy, and she calls it a feeling of having a "complete" family for a while, since they both really wanted kids. But she got the baby bug again. Jon was supposedly happy with just the twins, but they eventually agreed to try for one more. They did IUI, and 7 embryos showed up. One didn''t develop so they had 6. Apparently they were scared to death of that, but they had decided way before fertility that they would never reduce, since they knew fertility treatments are known to produce multiples. They''re Christians, and she talks a lot about how her faith is what got her through a lot of that.
They''ve said they decided to do the show because they did 2 specials on having sextuplets. After those, they were approached about an actual show, and they decided to so they''d have photos and videos of the kids. Which is actually pretty smart, I thought, since it''s so hard to just get enough memorable photos of just one child as they grow up. I think they''ve also said they did it to spread awareness about having multiples, because they count it as beneficial if they''ve helped just one person out there.
As far as their relationship, it just stinks when rumors like that are spread and then exploited, even though I know it''s what always happens. But I don''t see Jon pulling away at all through the show. I think he''s a great father. I do think he and Kate have both changed - have you guys seen the first specials on having sextuplets? They''re both so different there. I think they''ve just become comfortable with the cameras and act like they''re not there now. Who in the world has a perfect relationship and is always lovey dovey? I do think she''s a difficult person sometimes and can be stern, but it''s just unfortunate that all that gets caught on camera and possibly edited to portray her as always like that. We have no idea what they''re really like as fully rounded people.
Then again, as FI says, it''s their choice to be on camera, so I guess it''s a give and take situation.
The problem with mommy and daddy is that they forget about another very important relationship: husband and wife.
I don''t feel bad for her at all. She''s a great mother but she''s a terrible wife. I haven''t noticed that he checked out of his role as being a father but I can understand him checking out of the relationship.
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LTS, I can appreciate the reasonings behind the children being born...but my "issue" (if you would even call it that) is the way she constantly emasculates her husband, basically loses her mind via national television, and then pretends to have this perfect little life. If it''s so hard to be the wife, mother and television star, then why not ditch the "variable"...the television show, or the book writing, or the appearances? Why force life to be harder than it needs to be?
She gets on her soapbox and goes on and on about how stressful her life is...but she compounds her stressors.
She gets on her soapbox and goes on and on about how stressful her life is...but she compounds her stressors.
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I agree... I watch the show occasionally and also get annoyed with Kate. I have turned it off many times, half way through a program, because she gets on my nerves...every once in a while, I''ll turn it on, to see if she has changed at all, LOL and she never does.... I also feel bad for Jon, because Kate is constantly berating him...it''s like he''s another kid.
And I know, we only see what the producers want us to see, but if she didn''t like or disagreed with what SHE saw, in the final product and in so many shows over the years, wouldn''t she try to change how she treated her husband, or ask the producers to show her ''good'' side too? If this isn''t an accurate portrayal of what she is really like, then why is that what we see the majority of the time? Usually, people behave WORSE off camera and behind closed doors...we usually behave BETTER when we know someone is watching...so why would she keep acting this way in front of the camera?
Not that ANY of this is an excuse to cheat on a spouse, but Kate better wake up, or Jon is going to be out of there...men need to feel appreciated by their wives and Kate is more critical most of the time, more than she is positive toward him...feeling unappreciated, on top of dealing with 8 kids would be enough to break down any relationship.
And he does look more beaten down and discouraged over the years...even during his ''work out and diet'' phase/episodes, Kate berated him and made fun of him...if a husband did that to his wife on TV, he would have been hung from the rafters... She just treats him like he''s a little kid and shows him no respect.
I don''t think I''ll be watching anymore...it stresses me out whenever I do catch it and they aren''t even my kids!
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Did anyone catch the last episode of the season? Jon was talking about how he didn''t enjoy being on the show anymore and how he was not happy in general. Kate continues that she''s very happy with the way things are, as if she didn''t care how Jon felt. Ugh.
That sums it all up! I used to watch the show religiously when the sextuplets were babies but now I can''t stand it because of that woman.
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I guess I''ll give my .02 since I do watch this show religiously. I agree that Jon and Kate have changed since their sextuplet specials. They now make a living from their show and publicity, books, and public appearances. They''ve become mini-celebs; how are they not expected to change? I think Jon is a good father to his children and Kate a good mother. Their children are well-mannered, and well-behaved. They seem to have implemented good morals into their kids. I''m curious to see if Jon/Kate''s personalities come out as the kids grow older (if they continue the show for that long).
Who knows if Jon was cheating. I know of the incident that happened before the latest, Jon was just taking photos with his fans. It seems like he was in a car with the latest female, but he claims they are friends.
I wonder what the new season will portray?
Who knows if Jon was cheating. I know of the incident that happened before the latest, Jon was just taking photos with his fans. It seems like he was in a car with the latest female, but he claims they are friends.
I wonder what the new season will portray?
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Very, very true. When I met her, it was basically a "shuffle you through the line" sort of deal. I guess I thought in person, she''d be nice and kind of laid back. But her people told us no pictures "with" her because she doesn''t like the flashes in her eyes. I was probably 10 people back in line - very close to the front. I swear before even ONE minute was passed from when she started signing, I was through and past her. She takes the book (preopened ahead of time for us by the Barnes and Noble people to the right page), quickly signs it, signs a photo of herself, and sticks it in the book. I said hi to her when I stepped up there, and I can''t even remember what she said - if she said anything, it was a "hi" while she was signing. I hate to say it, but it almost appeared as if it was a chore for her to be there. If I was doing a book signing, I''d want to at least go at a nice pace and smile at people and make them feel welcome and like I appreciated them buying my book and coming out. I hardly felt that at all - I more felt like a number they were just trying to add in, maybe so they could say they had some large number of books signed that day or something. I don''t know. It was my first book signing, and it just wasn''t at all what I thought it''d be.
I guess what I''m trying to say is that I totally agree. She didn''t look happy at all to be there. I told FI that, and he said that it''s her choice to be doing all that, which is exactly what you said Italia. And it''s true - if she''s unhappy with this stressful schedule and all, it''s a choice she can make to stop. I''ve read on other reviews of her book signings that whenever she would actually talk to someone, she''d say how much she misses Jon and the kids. If it''s as bad as she made it appear that day I was there, I''d say she should stop the tours and just be home.
There are people who thrive on stress, they need to be ''stressed out'' in order to feel like they are being productive? With Kate, I get the impression she HAS to be focused on completing the GOAL, and doesn''t care if she enjoys the PROCESS of what is going on. When they take the kids somewhere for instance, she''s all about ''how'' to go about doing it, but never seems to ENJOY the activity itself. She''s all about the rules of how to do things...yes I get that taking 8 kids anywhere would be a big job, but it could still be enjoyable...Jon seems more into the experience, rather than trying to do it all the RIGHT way. Same with her book signing, she saw it as a chore to conquer, a goal to sign a bunch of books, rather than an experience to enjoy. That''s how she comes off to me.
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