J & K Colored diamond question

[LBug75]

Ok, originally i thought that I wanted a third of a carat but because of the shrinkage factor I decided to go with something aroung.63 for sure. Now I want to try to stay in the $2,000 range for the diamond and the setting. I''ve looked around on the site and I''ve seen lots of amazing looking J''s and K''s so I think that would be a good option. I''ve been trying to read up on diamon education and I just wanted to see if I''m understanding things correctly. Now, because of it being a warmer stone should I be looking for something with faint to medium flour, also it''s best to have a med to med thick girdle and a minimal culet correct ? I''m not looking to do this until March but I''m just trying to get all of my facts straight now that way I can just go ahead and buy. Also, I do see a lot of other vendors on the site, it seems to be that the most frequented are GOG, wink, James Allen & Whiteflash. I have also read that to feel more confident in buying on-line to get a stone with an AGA cert, is that right ? I definately feel better about buying from a pricescope vender but still a little nervous LOL Thanks so much for your help !!

 

[ButterBean]

Hi Bug!

Date: 9/5/2008 9:13:07 PM
Author:LBug75
Ok, originally i thought that I wanted a third of a carat but because of the shrinkage factor I decided to go with something aroung.63 for sure. Now I want to try to stay in the $2,000 range for the diamond and the setting. I''ve looked around on the site and I''ve seen lots of amazing looking J''s and K''s so I think that would be a good option. I''ve been trying to read up on diamon education and I just wanted to see if I''m understanding things correctly. Now, because of it being a warmer stone should I be looking for something with faint to medium flour, also it''s best to have a med to med thick girdle and a minimal culet correct ? I''m not looking to do this until March but I''m just trying to get all of my facts straight now that way I can just go ahead and buy. Also, I do see a lot of other vendors on the site, it seems to be that the most frequented are GOG, wink, James Allen & Whiteflash. I have also read that to feel more confident in buying on-line to get a stone with an AGA cert, is that right ? I definately feel better about buying from a pricescope vender but still a little nervous LOL Thanks so much for your help !!

Only a couple things I would mention: A girdle of thin to slightly thick is very good ... I would say to stick with AGS or GIA to be safe. You''re off to a great start!
BB

 

[Hera]

yes, Some flourescence would help a j or K appear whiter. To maximize your money I would drop to a clarity of an SI2 (check for eyecleanness though) as well.

 

[mommy2iz]

ditto...dropping your clarity will definitely help you maximize your budget. why pay for something you can''t see? and here''s a personal kudo for whiteflash - i have 2 friends who recently purchased their engagement rings there, and they could not be happier with the experience or their rings!!! i wouldn''t hesitate to call/email them. good luck to you!

 

[JulieN]

thin girdle is fine.

AGA: i think you mean AGS. AGA is a boutique lab.

faint fluor won''t do anything. You need at least medium to make even a smallest change in apparent color. Strong would be better.

I think you should be able to find I/J stones in your budget. K is a little iffy for me.

 

[LBug75]

Thanks all !! You're right Julie, I meant AGS LOL and thanks to you too mommy, I feel the same. As long as it's eye clean I'm fine, I don't think that anyone is going to come up to me with a loup and ask to see my ring LOL This is the setting that I want. That's another thing, I'm not sure how much the yellow gold setting will affect how the diamond looks.

 

[Kelli]

I have seen some STUNNING Ks, but I tend to like the warmer colors anyway I guess. But J SI1 or 2 (eyeclean) should be safe as long as it''s a great cut. Don''t compromise on cut!

 

[Skippy123]

I have some J studs, and they look great so you should be safe with a J!

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 9/5/2008 9:13:07 PM
Author:LBug75
Ok, originally i thought that I wanted a third of a carat but because of the shrinkage factor I decided to go with something aroung.63 for sure. Now I want to try to stay in the $2,000 range for the diamond and the setting. I've looked around on the site and I've seen lots of amazing looking J's and K's so I think that would be a good option. I've been trying to read up on diamon education and I just wanted to see if I'm understanding things correctly. Now, because of it being a warmer stone should I be looking for something with faint to medium flour, also it's best to have a med to med thick girdle and a minimal culet correct ? I'm not looking to do this until March but I'm just trying to get all of my facts straight now that way I can just go ahead and buy. Also, I do see a lot of other vendors on the site, it seems to be that the most frequented are GOG, wink, James Allen & Whiteflash. I have also read that to feel more confident in buying on-line to get a stone with an AGA cert, is that right ? I definately feel better about buying from a pricescope vender but still a little nervous LOL Thanks so much for your help !!

See if you can check out some K colours for yourself, if you like that colour grade they can look superb! I have a gorgeous and large L colour myself, there are those of us who love the warmer colours so if they appeal to you then thats great!

Medium and above blue fluorescence can be a nice feature if you can find it, girdle thin to medium, slightly thin to slightly thick or any combo of those will be fine.

 

[MMT]

I think the ring you chose is beautiful. I have heard that yellow gold can make a warmer diamond look whiter. I have seen many gorgeous J''s and K''s on this site.

 

[ootori227]

Hi LBug75!

I have a K color stone with mild blue fluor and it helps the stone to look whiter. I know it by heart because my old stone was K color also! You can see my post on ''show me the ring''.

https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/my-upgrade-is-done-1-8carat-aca-with-legato-sleek-line.94189/

I love my new stone with mild blue fluor. Under the sun light, I can see little blue color and it shines like crazy!

I bought both of the stone from WF. At first, I was a bit nervous about working with an online vendor, but they are SUPER nice to work with! Lesley is SO nice!

Good luck!!

 

[LBug75]

OMG ootori , that K is absolutely gorgeous !! So, it would be beneficial to get at least mild blue flour,and make sure to get an excellent cut. Now, since I am an amateur at this if I find something should I use the HCA here on the site to determine if the stone I''m thinking of is good ? I definately need more education on what constitutes a good cut and I know I''m in the right place for that LOL

 

[swingirl]

The HCA is meant to weed out the bad ones and it''s only for rounds. Less than 2 is what you are looking for and within that range it is all good. The vendors you mention all hand pick the stones they have photos of so they can describe them to you--where the inclusions are located, how vis1ble they are, easily hidden, etc.

When AGS says it''s an Ideal cut, that''s reliable. When GIA says Excellent cut there is more variation as their parameters are broader. Wink (Winfields) carries beautiful stones Cut by Infinity and many have lower clarity, lower color and high flouro. So if are looking for a stone with a lower price because of an J, K or L color or SI2-I1 clarity or Very Strong Flouro Winks has access to them and the cuts are AGS Ideal.

Also, keep in mind not all the stones carried end up on their websites. Some of the real popular combos get bought up before they get posted.

Keep reading!!

 

[WinkHPD]

Date: 9/6/2008 3:49:21 AM
Author: Lorelei

Date: 9/5/2008 9:13:07 PM
Author:LBug75
Ok, originally i thought that I wanted a third of a carat but because of the shrinkage factor I decided to go with something aroung.63 for sure. Now I want to try to stay in the $2,000 range for the diamond and the setting. I''ve looked around on the site and I''ve seen lots of amazing looking J''s and K''s so I think that would be a good option. I''ve been trying to read up on diamon education and I just wanted to see if I''m understanding things correctly. Now, because of it being a warmer stone should I be looking for something with faint to medium flour, also it''s best to have a med to med thick girdle and a minimal culet correct ? I''m not looking to do this until March but I''m just trying to get all of my facts straight now that way I can just go ahead and buy. Also, I do see a lot of other vendors on the site, it seems to be that the most frequented are GOG, wink, James Allen & Whiteflash. I have also read that to feel more confident in buying on-line to get a stone with an AGA cert, is that right ? I definately feel better about buying from a pricescope vender but still a little nervous LOL Thanks so much for your help !!

See if you can check out some K colours for yourself, if you like that colour grade they can look superb! I have a gorgeous and large L colour myself, there are those of us who love the warmer colours so if they appeal to you then thats great!

Medium and above blue fluorescence can be a nice feature if you can find it, girdle thin to medium, slightly thin to slightly thick or any combo of those will be fine.

Lorelei makes some great points. Plus most if not all of the vendors here will send you a stone on approval so you can see for youself what you like.

Wink

 

[ootori227]

LBug75, I am still learning new things everyday here! I used HCA to make sure the stone I was looking at was the right one. I guess HCA score on my new stone was 1.1 so it was satisfactory to me.
Both of my stone (old 1.3 K and new 1.8 K) were AGS because I know AGS is a good one to go with for someone like me. (not so much experience in buying diamonds)

By the way, I said my stone was with mild blue flur, it was actually medium flur. I am sorry about that.

I guess there are some posts about blue flur on this board and I read them before I bought my new stone.

Keep us updated!

 

[LD]

The above pear is an I colour, SI2 with strong blue fluor. It looks exceptionally white. If I remember correctly the Asscher is also an H or I but has no fluor. The photo''s blurry but hopefully you can see the difference?

 

[Lynn B]

Oh maaaaaaaaaaaaan, I LOVE killer cut, lower color/clarity stones for the MOST bang for the buck.

My e-ring is an AGS-0 2.36 J/SI2 round brilliant... totally eye clean and VERY white (no yellow at all). It is gorgeous, and I LOVE IT!

My studs are .73 and .74 each, AGS-0 K colored stones (one is VS, one is SI clarity)... and they are blazing white little fireballs. (BTW, NONE of my diamonds have ANY fluorescence, and while I love fluoro, it is [IMVHO only, of course!] absolutely NOT necessary to have a gorgeous, and WHITE diamond!)

Here''s a couple of linkies of the above stones...

E-ring
Studs

 

[LostieLovesBling]

I think you are wise to go for a larger stone. Shrinkage sets in super fast.

I am also currently interested in a K diamond. Good to read so many nice things here. M was too much color for me. I too have high hopes for K

 

[LBug75]

Gorgeous ring lostie, ya know after looking at yours seems like a fishtail pave might be more secure that the one that I have been eyeing, can I copy yours in yellow gold ? LOL

 

[LBug75]

Oops, I''m sorry I meant Lynn LOL, she has the fishtail but I do love that ring in your avatar lostie ! K, after looking at the info on the site would this be a good cut ?