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I just wanted to chime in with wishing you good luck!
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HI:

Best of health to you! My dear friend had two round of IVF--and now has beautiful twin boys
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kind regards--Sharon
 
I just want to wish you luck! I know many success stories, my cousin has fraternal twin girls from IVF who will be two in November! That is just one of the ones I know of. Just think positively and be serene, it can''t hurt!! And even if some of the procedures are not pleasant, they are simply a means to an end...so just try to think of the outcome!!
 

Golden-thank you for asking, I am doing well, actually getting a little excited about the whole thing. That is wonderful news about both your friends. It''s always great to hear these stories, thank you for sharing-


mrs-h - thank you for the info, I am going to go to the store at lunch and load up on both. Does ice-cream count instead of milk

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Logan Sapphire- How are you doing? I am sorry to hear that the IUI didn''t work, I just had my 7th round on Friday, so I know what an emotional rollercoaster it is. I went to a mindbodywellness seminar this weekend and it was incredibly helpful. Not just with this, but in general about stress and how it affects our bodies. I would totally recommend checking it out if they have it in your area. That is wonderful news about your adoption? Please share more if you like? I would love to know as it is definitely an avenue we may need to explore- btw- we are doing ICSI and not IVF, it is supposed to be better for couples that have male infertility factor. Best of luck on your next cycle!!!!


Galateia- Thank you!!!


Canuk-gal- I never thought I wanted twins before, but now I totally wish for it, that is wonderful for your friend- except the sleep factor

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SDL- That must have been very difficult for your girlfriend, but how wonderful that she has a beautiful little girl now. Thank you for the baby dust!


DF- I am so glad I started this thread, it just makes me realize how many women are going through the same thing and that many of them were successful with IVF. It gives me hope and also makes me not feel so isolated. I am definitely trying to go into this with a positive attitude, serenity and hope. Thank you for your well wishes!!!!!!
 
Date: 3/3/2008 2:31:32 PM
Author: ivanadiamond

Logan Sapphire- How are you doing? I am sorry to hear that the IUI didn''t work, I just had my 7th round on Friday, so I know what an emotional rollercoaster it is. I went to a mindbodywellness seminar this weekend and it was incredibly helpful. Not just with this, but in general about stress and how it affects our bodies. I would totally recommend checking it out if they have it in your area. That is wonderful news about your adoption? Please share more if you like? I would love to know as it is definitely an avenue we may need to explore- btw- we are doing ICSI and not IVF, it is supposed to be better for couples that have male infertility factor. Best of luck on your next cycle!!!!





I thought ICSI was always done with IVF...so I''m confused- you are doing IVF or you''re not? Without getting too graphic, I thought with both plain IVF and ICSI, they''re obviously putting a fertilized egg into you, but with ICSI they actually place the sperm into the egg, whereas with regular IVF they put the sperm in the dish with the egg and let them meet naturally. I could be wrong though! Either way, best of luck to you.

I actually found out today that the IUI did sort of work...I have a chemical pregnancy, so obviously nothing viable. I was shocked though to hear that news. Totally shocked.

If you''re interested in adoption down the road, I''d love to talk about it with you. We''ve received the 1st of several approvals (2nd part and home study to go) and are super excited.
 
Well, I had an IVF about 4 years ago, put on a ton of weight (got an extra high dosage of hormone, cos my age), didn't get pregnant, again because of my age and also because of hubby's sperm issue (eekkk, TMI!!!). Had some other problem and was very stressed out mentally, so gave up, didn't go for the second or third round. Sometimes I wish I hadn't, as age has finally really caught up with me and now it's too late. BUT my friends' friends have tried IVF and were able to conceive. They're now proud mothers of lovely toddlers.

So, what I'm trying to say is it ain't going to be easy and smooth sailing, esp. if you're afraid of needles like me. But just think about the beautiful children, it'll be a great movitation. I say go for it!! It'll totally be worth it. Good luck!!
 
I don''t know if it counts, but our twins were conceived through IVF.
 
I have a good friend who tried to get pregnant for three years before trying IVF. She was fascinated by the science behind the whole process so that made it a lot easier. She got pregnant on her first try and now has a beautiful little girl.

Of course, she got knocked up the old fashioned way just eight weeks after giving birth to her first child, and on their first time attempting such activities after the baby was born. That was a HUGE shock to everyone. She figured she didn''t need to worry about birth control or whatnot since they had tried to conceive for so long. Guess not!!! Her two children are just eleven months apart. I''m glad I don''t have to change all those diapers!
 
LS- I totally miswrote, we are doing IVF with ICSI not instead of! I am so sorry to hear about your results, that breaks my heart. But I am happy to hear about your adoption process and perhaps in due time would love to speak with you about it. Best of luck to you and your hubby!

Phoenix- I am sorry to hear that the IVF didn''t work for you, but from what you wrote on your thread, you are considering trying to conceive again. Best luck to you and I wish you much success with quitting smoking. I have always been a social smoker, maybe 1 on the weekend with a cocktail so I know the habit can be hard to quit! But I am sure if you can stick with it for a few weeks you can break the habit. my MIL smoked for over 30 years at least 1-2 packs a day and she quit cold turkey 2 years ago. I know if she can do it, then you can too!

Pennquaker- Of coarse it counts and makes me so hopeful!!! Thank you for sharing!

ErikaR- OMG- I can''t belive that your friend got pregnant 8 weeks after giving birth, that is insane!!!!!! WOOOWWW!!! They must have been in total shock, perhaps they still are
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SDL- OK don''t scare me now!!!!
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Phoenix- my head is up my a** today, i mixed you up with ItalianHairLover- SORRY!!!!!!!!!!
 
Ivanna, I am sending buckets of PS dust to you and your hubby! My cousin has 2 beautiful children through ivf; one is 2 and the other is 4yrs old. I also have a close friend whose brother is an ivf baby!! I just wanted to also let you know so you don't feel alone, there are 1 in 6 couples who have issues conceiving. Sending you a hug and best wishes!!!
 
Ivana: My bff went through 7 rounds of IVF. Her dh''s swimmers were super poor quality. They tried years of other methods (clomid, IUI, etc before the IVF).

It took 3 rounds (she was harvested twice during that time period) before they got a BFP and gave birth to a little girl in 2004. Last year she did 3 more rounds to try for baby #2 with no luck.

Her husband''s brother & wife also had IVF, (at the same clinic---same issues) and got pregnant on the 1st try with their son who was also born in 2004. They got pregnant with twins on the first trY for their second child and had 2 girls in 2007, and now she is unexpectly pregnant AGAIN naturally! (they are surprised but happy!).

So...same issues in the same family with the same doctors (and treatments at the same time) with vastly different results. Crazy.

I wish you lots of luck and I''ll tell you what I told my friend. Ask your doctor about the increased risks of ovarian cancer due to the hormone treatments associated with fertility treatments. Oprah did a special on it (so who knows how accurate it is) in February of 2003 (in her magazine that month too if you want to search for the article) and there was some data suggesting that it doubled a woman''s risk for fatal types of ovarian cancer.

I don''t want to be an alarmist, and I apologize, but I hate seeing people put things in their body without discussing risks with their doctors. I think with all things, its a "weigh the risk against the reward" and especially if you are able to conceive quickly, it most likely won''t be an issue. Your doctor may have newer data that says its safe. At least ask.

And good luck!! Lots of sticky dust your way!
 
ivanadiamond - I hope I''m not too late to jump on this thread but I wanted to to send you lots of baby dust and I hope this journey is a short one for you and Dh.

My Dh and I are not in your shoes right now but that is where we are headed. We''re in the beginning stages right now. Going to appointments and doing all sorts of examinations and tests. We''re dealing with MI as Dh has very poor morphology - 100%. This is mainly due to the use of a prescribed steriod (prednisone) a few years back and some of prescription drugs that he is on now. Unless there is a miracle drug that can reverse the damage the drugs did so we can concieve naturally, we could avoid spending $10K per cycle.

We don''t know what treatment is ahead for us but the talk of the town is IVF w/ICSI.

Does anyone know if there is there anything we can do in increase the morphology?


Anyways, wishing you lots of luck.
 
Hi ivanadiamond,
I just wanted to wish you good luck with IVF! Fertility treatments are such a stressful process, so I hope you''re hanging in there and that things are going well! Do you have a timeline for it?

I''ve done a number of medicated IUIs that didn''t work (well one worked but ended up in miscarriage) so IVF is down the road for me - I won''t be able to do it for several years it looks like (which will give me time to figure out where on earth to come up with $25,000?!) It''s such a stressful process but hopefully worth it in the end. :)
 
Ivana - long time no see! Sorry things haven''t worked for you in the meantime, but I''m really excited to hear that you have a plan. I''ve got an online friend on another board who was dealing with severe male factor infertilty. Many failed medicated IUIs... Well, she did one round of IVF at the start of the year, and is now about 8 weeks pregnant with twins. I can''t remember if they did ICSI or not, but I don''t think things were too horrible for her thoughout the process.

Please keep me posted on how things go, cause I can see myself ending up in the same position in the not-too-distant-future. I mentioned on another post that I liked www.ivfconnections.com as a forum on IVF with tons of knowledgable people posting. Might be worth checking out? Good luck with everything!

Kate
 
Ivana, one of my sisters had 3 rounds of IVF. None were successful, but fortunately, she conceived on her own a year after the last IVF. And then...she conceived her second child while she was breastfeeding the first one.

My eldest brother and his wife tried for several years to conceive, with no luck. They elected not to do IVF, after several Clomid/IUI cycles. They ended up adopting a baby girl, who was born to a fifteen year old mother. Fourteen months later, she gave birth again (by the same father) and my brother and his wife adopted the baby, a boy this time. At this point, they figured their family was complete. Not so fast - as my SIL was dealing with two children under two, she conceived, and gave birth to a healthy baby girl.

Life is strange sometimes, and surprising. I really hope you achieve a healthy, successful pregnancy. :)
 
I am continually amazed at how common infertility actually is and how many people have experienced it or know someone close who has. Thank you again for your kind words and wonderful stories. I never thought that I would end up on this journey. 16 months of trying and now doing IVF; this was always the end of the road step, the last chance...and now we are here. It blows my mind but I realize we are much stronger human beings than we give ourselves credit for and far more fragile than we let on. This has without a doubt shaped and formed me in ways that will only reveal themselves in the next few years and over a life-time…

Skippy thank you!

Divergirl, I will def. ask my doctor about the risks, that is crazy about your bff and her sister-in-law. It must have been hard for your girlfriend, but in the end I am so happy to hear that she has a beautiful little girl. I am really scared that it won't work and I will be devastated, but I am trying to focus on the positive and hope I can be a success story like many others have been.

CDNblinggal- Good luck with everything, I am so sorry you are going through this. It truly is a very difficult time. My husband too has morphology issues, our doctor told him to start taking Conceptionxr- it is an anti-oxidant and his morphology did improve greatly after 3 months (who knows maybe the first semen analysis was off, ya never know). I read too that he should avoid tight underwear and hot-tubs or sauna's... Lastly after dealing with this alone for 16 months I finally joined a mindbodywellness course with a few other women who are going through infertility as well. I already had one class and it has really helped me not feel so alone and isolated in this. I think this affects us so much more than we let on or even realize ourselves. There are some studies that have been conducted on the stress that women and men feel when dealing with infertility. Some studies show that the amount of stress felt is the same as getting a HIV positive or cancer diagnosis. Also, so many people don't understand that it is a serious condition and not something that can be taken care of if "you jst relax, go on a vacation, open a bottle of wine, don't think about it, or when your body is right will be" anyway, I am totally on a rant, forgive me. I just want to say it has been really great to be around people that are going through it too. It is helping my husband as well and bringing us a lot closer. I would highly recommend it.

Questionaboutsettings- sorry to hear you are going through all of this as well. I truly hope that you will get pregnant through IUI's and do not have to go through the IVF. May I ask how old you are? Have you asked your doctor about the success rate of live births through IVF with ICSI in your age range? The reason I ask is that our doctor has over 70% success rate in our age range and because of that we are choosing to go about it one IVF at a time instead of with a shared-risk program. Also, when they do the IVF they will also freeze any good extra eggs, so if you don't have success on the first round, they can try inseminating you (sorry if this is the wrong terminology) the next cycle with the embies (which is wayyyy cheaper) than having to do IVF again.


DRK- How are you??? You have been on my mind lately! I hope you and your hubby are doing well! I have read a lot on IVF connections, it is a really helpful site. That is great news about your friend. Best of luck to you, I really pray for you both!!

Canadiangirl- Life is really crazy; we truly have no idea what the future has in store for any of us. My husband and I def. would like to adopt whether we can conceive on our own or not. There are so many different ways that one can have a family, I guess once we open ourselves up to that fact then we can understand that we have more options than we realize...

BTW- I get my test results on Wednesday whether or not my last IUI cycle was successful, so I am praying for a BFP and hoping for a miracle

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LoganSapphire - I forgot to say I was sorry to hear the latest IUI wasn''t successful, but how exciting that you''re approved for adoption. It must be so wonderful to know that you''ll be a Mom in the not-so-distant future. Hope the adoption process goes smoothly and quickly for you!

Ivana - well, I certainly hope you get the + on Wed so that you can avoid the IVF expense/hassle. Good luck with the testing!

Kate
 
Hi ivanadiamond, I haven''t looked into all the specific (like age-dependent success rates) of IVF since it''s not something I can pursue for a few years. I am in my late twenties. Anyway, I wanted to wish you good luck on your current IVF cycle - I hope you get a positive HPT and don''t have to do IVF afterall!!!
 
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