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I like the .95 and it looks whiter and more lively than the .8 to me.
I like the shape and I like that it looks bigger than the .8
 
Gypsy|1330218346|3134592 said:
So... I trust my own eyes and I REALLY trust Jon's. I would get an ASET of the SI stone. I think from the video though, and from what Jon sees in person, that it's the better of the two.

I will request an ASET of the stone.

I think at this point we can all agree that the .95 is the winner of the two. But, that's unfortunately out of only two stones. I'm finding myself feeling somewhat stumped at this point. I feel almost like if someone took a picture of anything shiny and in the shape of a pear I would find it attractive. :lol: (I'm not saying that this is the case with these diamonds)

However...how will I know if this is "the one"? It looks great. The price is right. I think it would look more than lovely on the finger of my partner. But is this the best diamond I can find given the time constraint and budget? These are probably the questions I should be asking GOG. I don't know, I just feel as if I'm missing a very important detail somewhere. :confused:

Gypsy, in your most descriptive tone possible, can you please give me your detailed opinion about the SI stone? Not only your preference out of the two, but if you were in my shoes would you wear that diamond? Hope I'm not putting you on the spot. I'm trying to place this all in context.
 
While you wait for Gypsy's reply, I just have to say how thankful I have been to work with a vendor who will screen the stones for me and not even call in stones that are inferior. Do you realize that some vendors would have called in some of the ones Jon eliminated and you would have been choosing the best of the inferior stones? It is true that there just aren't as many pears, so there aren't going to be as many to choose from with particular specs. Given the time constraint, I don't think you can do better. If you wanted to wait 6 more months, you might could find a VS2. But that size just under a carat is very desirable, and those are not all that common, either.

Just so I am clear, did your girlfriend tell you that she prefers a pear shape?
 
I'm happy to do that for you. But here are my thoughts first. I've only seen a limited number of nice pears (and many, many, many ugly ones) in my lifetime IN PERSON. Seen plenty on the net. But when I was looking at GOG Jon was very honest with me about the stones I was looking at (once I stopped working with Charles things dramatically improved).

My first instinct is to call GOG and ask Jon, since he did the video, this question: "I know you had a strong preference for the SI stone between the two choices offered, but I want to know what your thoughts are on the SI stone in comparison to some of the best pears you've ever seen. Clearly this is the better of the two options you've called in, but how does it compare to great pears in general."

Jon, for all his quirks, is honest and has a very good eye for diamonds BUT particularly for fancy's.

*My* thoughts would be based on a single video. That's not really enough. But here they are for whatever limited value they have. It's a bright stone that shows a good return all around from what I can see of the video. At the rounded end and at the tip plus at the sidesl. I don't know about edge to edge brightness so that's where the ASET will come in. I can't compare it to other pears I've seen in person, because I'm not seeing it in person. It's got a 'goldilocks' shape for a pear and a slight bow tie that I don't think would bother me (and I'm super picky about bow ties) and it's larger than the other stone, but I don't know the dimensions on it as I wasn't given those, so I can't speak to spread. Just relative spread.

Basically, I know enough to say that it's a candidate I would investigate further. Would I buy it? Not from the information I have right now. But if the ASET checks out and after hearing Jon's honest thoughts about the stone, I would know more to make an educated decision. If Jon says that it's average, then you can wait. If he says it's above average, then I think it's a serious contender pending ASET and large inclusion pics to set your mind at ease.

With fancy's you are typically deciding between three stone maximum. And having only two choices is not unusual either. So, I know that it FEELS frustrating, especially when you see 100 round brilliants out there and can compare them within an inch of their lives but there isn't the same amount of selection with fancy cuts. BUT they are more unique and have more personality. Which in my book goes a LONG way.
 
diamondseeker2006|1330221646|3134635 said:
While you wait for Gypsy's reply, I just have to say how thankful I have been to work with a vendor who will screen the stones for me and not even call in stones that are inferior. Do you realize that some vendors would have called in some of the ones Jon eliminated and you would have been choosing the best of the inferior stones? It is true that there just aren't as many pears, so there aren't going to be as many to choose from with particular specs. Given the time constraint, I don't think you can do better. If you wanted to wait 6 more months, you might could find a VS2. But that size just under a carat is very desirable, and those are not all that common, either.

Just so I am clear, did your girlfriend tell you that she prefers a pear shape?

She is a pear fan 100%. There has never been any doubt about that.

Thank you for pointing out GOG's work with filtering the stones for me. Honestly, at first I didn't even realize they were doing it and I assume my posts sounded as if they weren't looking as hard as they should be. Now that I've learned a little bit more about the process, that was totally ignorant of me. I am very lucky that they are doing 97% of the work for me. I know now that I could hop on blue nile and grab a stone with much better stats only to have it arrive to my door with much less light performance. Of course I am only speaking on pears here.

Thank you for your insight and your opinion on the stone. 8)
 
zma21|1330223066|3134652 said:
diamondseeker2006|1330221646|3134635 said:
While you wait for Gypsy's reply, I just have to say how thankful I have been to work with a vendor who will screen the stones for me and not even call in stones that are inferior. Do you realize that some vendors would have called in some of the ones Jon eliminated and you would have been choosing the best of the inferior stones? It is true that there just aren't as many pears, so there aren't going to be as many to choose from with particular specs. Given the time constraint, I don't think you can do better. If you wanted to wait 6 more months, you might could find a VS2. But that size just under a carat is very desirable, and those are not all that common, either.

Just so I am clear, did your girlfriend tell you that she prefers a pear shape?

She is a pear fan 100%. There has never been any doubt about that.

Thank you for pointing out GOG's work with filtering the stones for me. Honestly, at first I didn't even realize they were doing it and I assume my posts sounded as if they weren't looking as hard as they should be. Now that I've learned a little bit more about the process, that was totally ignorant of me. I am very lucky that they are doing 97% of the work for me. I know now that I could hop on blue nile and grab a stone with much better stats only to have it arrive to my door with much less light performance. Of course I am only speaking on pears here.

Thank you for your insight and your opinion on the stone. 8)

You are welcome! Honestly, I could probably choose a good round stone from anywhere because of what I have learned over the years here, but there is no doubt that I'd go straight to Jon to help me pick out any fancy cut (although I have had his help several times with rounds!).

I only asked about the pears to be sure that was her first choice. Sometimes when we ask that question, the guy says she just doesn't want a round or something like that. We just need to know if there are other stone options. But in this case, it sounds like you are going for exactly what she loves the most! :appl:
 
I think Jon is great and I have purchased from him before .. and would again.

I do believe that if you are not fully satisfied .. it doesn't hurt to reach out to another vendor to see what they can do for you. I believe most people do shop around and work with at least 2 vendors when purchasing a diamond.
 
So the xray, aset, and microscope images on the .95 diamond from the video are now available here:

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/9224/

In the video the .95 looked pretty impressive. However, in the images I just received there appears to be a pretty obvious inclusion. I'm going to get on the phone tomorrow with GOG to ensure that the diamond is in fact eye clean. The inclusion isn't noticeable in the video, however I want to make sure i'm getting a 100% eyeclean diamond, not 96%.

Let me know what you guys think of the images! Of course the diamond is magnified in the photo's, but that inclusion jumps out at me pretty hard.. :wink2:
 
Bump.

Anybody have an opinion on the stone now that the aset and xray are up? :read:
 
I am definitely NOT an expert in diamonds or in pear-shaped ones at all (had to add this disclaimer first).

That said, I am going to be the dissenting voice here and pick the 0.80 one. Although it is not as white and has a little bit less sparkle than the 0.95 one, I personally prefer the rounder (or should I say wider) shape of the 0.80. The way that it looks in indoor lighting somehow has a "mystique" factor for me... Plus, I am a bargain-loving girl, and I don't think the 0.80 looks much smaller and it has the lower price. :rodent:
 
Of course the inclusion is visible :-) It's there and they took magnified close ups so you can see it. I doubt that is going to be eye visible though.

The ASET looks okay. Lots of green but a decent amount of red and very little blue. What did Jon say about the stone when you talked to him.
 
Gypsy|1330563271|3137831 said:
Of course the inclusion is visible :-) It's there and they took magnified close ups so you can see it. I doubt that is going to be eye visible though.

The ASET looks okay. Lots of green but a decent amount of red and very little blue. What did Jon say about the stone when you talked to him.

I knew it would show up in the magnified view. :lol:

I wasn't expecting it to be that pronounced, however. As far as magnified inclusions go, that's pretty apparent (size wise) compared to others I've seen in the range.

I didn't get a chance to call GOG, but hopefully will tomorrow. The person I'm working directly with has assured me 3 or so times that the stone is 100% eye clean. I'll have a couple questions for Jon, but for now I just have to see if I can deal with an inclusion of that magnitude being hidden by the facets, although it's still there. Kind of bugs me. :wink2:
 
I personally think the pear is beautiful, but of course you have to love it.
 
It isn't an inclusion of great 'magnitude', really. You are still gonna have to hunt for it, and if you ever see it with a 10x loupe you will be like... oh, that little thing?

It's a birthmark. Really, that's all it is.

You'll know it's there, and every time you drop your ring off for polishing, repair, sizing-- whatever, you will have the piece of mind of being able to pick up a loupe and seeing that little mark and knowing it's your stone you are looking at.
 
Gypsy said:
It isn't an inclusion of great 'magnitude', really. You are still gonna have to hunt for it, and if you ever see it with a 10x loupe you will be like... oh, that little thing?

It's a birthmark. Really, that's all it is.

You'll know it's there, and every time you drop your ring off for polishing, repair, sizing-- whatever, you will have the piece of mind of being able to pick up a loupe and seeing that little mark and knowing it's your stone you are looking at.

Ditto this. If its not visible to your eye in normal viewing conditions I wouldn't worry about it - that's just me though..
 
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