Is this Diamond Any good?

[Shaninj4]

Round Brilliant
I color VS1 clarity for $6580

Depth %: 58.7%
Table %: 60%
Crown <: 33
Pavillion <: 40.4
Symmetry: Very good
Polish: Very good
Girdle: Thin to slightly thick, faceted
Culet: Very small
Fluorescence: Medium blue
Measurements: 7.00 x 7.08 x 4.13 mm

It got a HCA of 1.6

But it says under cut: Very good

I noticed some of their "ideal cuts" actually had really poor HCA scores. So I''m a bit confused.

 

[Shaninj4]

oops forgot to put 1.25 carats

 

[swingirl]

Any photos?

 

[strmrdr]

shalow shallow large table... I wouldnt put it in a ring....

 

[Shaninj4]

Unfortunately Blue Nile does not post pictures and I am awaiting their answer on whether they would be able to take a picture for me or not.

My bf has left me the job of finding a suitable center stone

I love blue fluro!

I guess I''m just confused on why it would be considered only a "very good cut" versus an ideal cut because the HCA score turned out to be awesome.

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 3/31/2008 12:59:41 PM
Author:Shaninj4
Round Brilliant
I color VS1 clarity for $6580

Depth %: 58.7%
Table %: 60%
Crown <: 33
Pavillion <: 40.4
Symmetry: Very good
Polish: Very good
Girdle: Thin to slightly thick, faceted
Culet: Very small
Fluorescence: Medium blue
Measurements: 7.00 x 7.08 x 4.13 mm

It got a HCA of 1.6

But it says under cut: Very good

I noticed some of their 'ideal cuts' actually had really poor HCA scores. So I'm a bit confused.

It is shallow with a larger table, you could certainly find one with a tighter cut, have you actually seen this diamond? Labels such as Ideal cut/ Very Good can be used rather loosely, and don't guarantee you a well cut diamond unfortunately. Is this diamond with an online vendor? Personally I would keep looking...

 

[Shaninj4]

I guess I should find another online vendor that posts pictures?

I''m a newbie to this whole diamond world. I have approximately $9,000 for a 3 stone.
the only problem is I love blue fluoro so it''s harder to find I suppose.

 

[Cleo]

Hello

If you really love blue fluorescence, you could try searching DiamondsonWeb.com, as they list the level of fluorescence in each stone, which makes it easy to pick out the ones that interest you.

The downside is that you don''t get pics of the actual diamond, and I would still run the specs through the HCA as some of their ''Ideal'' range aren''t necessarily what PSers would call Ideal.

Having said that, we did buy my diamond from them, and they do have a lifetime upgrade policy. They were very helpful and my lovely AGS0 diamond rocks.

x x x

 

[kcoursolle]

It''s a little shallow for my taste. My jamesallen.com for a less expensive vendor with pictures of their stones.

 

[Shaninj4]

Diamond 1:
http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/I-SI1-Ideal-Cut-Round-Diamond-1112508.asp
Shape: Round
Carat weight: 1.22
Cut: Ideal
Color: I
Clarity: SI1
Certificate: GIA
Depth: 62.6%
Table: 57.0%
Crown <: 35.5
Pavillion <: 40.6
Polish: Excellent
Symmetry: Very Good
Girdle: Slightly thick to thick
Culet: None
Fluorescence: Medium
Measurements: 6.76*6.79*4.24

Diamond 2: http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/I-VS2-Premium-Cut-Round-Diamond-1111016.asp?b=16&a=12&c=77&cid=131

Shape: Round
Carat weight: 1.22
Cut: Premium
Color: I
Clarity: VS2
Certificate: GIA
Depth: 61.3%
Table: 59.0%
Crown <: 35.0
Pavillion <: 40.8
Polish: Very Good
Symmetry: Very Good
Girdle: Medium to slightly thick
Culet: None
Fluorescence: Strong
Measurements: 6.89*6.84*4.21

Diamond 3:
http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/I-VS2-Ideal-Cut-Round-Diamond-1052817.asp
Shape: Round
Carat weight: 1.28
Cut: Ideal
Color: I
Clarity: VS2
Certificate: GIA
Depth: 61.1%
Table: 57.0%
Crown <: 34
Pavillion: 40.8
Polish: Very Good
Symmetry: Very Good
Girdle: Medium to slightly thick
Culet: None
Fluorescence: Medium
Measurements: 6.98*7.02*4.28

They all have fluoro... so why is it some actually look yellowish? Which would be my best bet?

 

[diamondseeker2006]

Number 3 is the best of those three. Look at the diameter measurements. #1 is too deep, and it is only 6.7mm. #2 has strong florescence and less than ideal numbers, so I''d pass on it. #3 has the most ideal measurements and has a diameter of about 7 mm with medium flourescence. So I''d definitely choose number 3.

Have you seen stones with flourescence?

 

[Ellen]

I agree the numbers look best on 3. Nothing wrong with BLUE flo, even up to very strong, as long as it doesn''t negatively affect the stone. (rare) It won''t make it look yellow, it would make it appear whiter.

 

[Shaninj4]

The first Diamond looked yellowish despite the I color and blue fluro! So I didn''t understand why it had that tinge of yellow. Possibly the lighting under the microscope?

I love blue fluro! The steely-blue color is to die for! Would medium get this effect or do I have to go for strong?

Oo so the 1.3 on the HCA calc for the 3rd diamond would be the best visually?

 

[Shaninj4]

What about this one?
Why does it appear to face up so white when other H colored stones on the site appeared yellow?

Shape: Round
Carat Weight: 1.287ct
Color: J
Clarity: SI1
AGS Cut Grade: Ideal
est GIA Cut Grade: Excellent
AGS Light Performance: Ideal
Optical Symmetry: Superior
Polish: Ideal
Symmetry: Ideal
Fluorescence: Medium
Girdle: 2.09%
Culet: None
Lab Report: AGS
Lab Report #: 7314901
In House: Yes
Width: 6.95mm
Length: 6.98mm
Depth: 4.30mm
Table Percentage: 57.54%
Depth Percentage: 61.71%
Crown ∠: 34.98°
Crown Depth: 14.93%
Pavilion ∠: 40.81°
Pavilion Depth: 43.05%
Upper Girdle ∠: 42.31°
Lower Girdle ∠: 42.09°

 

[Shaninj4]

Another pic

 

[Shaninj4]

See how white it is?!

 

[honey22]

I am not sure if this is what you mean, but you can''t gauge colour from a website. The colours will vary depending on the photo, exposure, screen settings etc etc so all those factors combine to make it impossible to determine the real colour. You are best off to look at different (well cut!) stones in real life and determine your colour preference.

 

[Ellen]

Date: 4/1/2008 1:25:17 AM
Author: Shaninj4
What about this one?
Why does it appear to face up so white when other H colored stones on the site appeared yellow?

For only 200.00 more, I''d get this one. It''s a H&A, plus it comes with a much better upgrade policy.

JA''s pics always look like that. It isn''t truly representitive of the diamond and how it looks in real life.

As for the flo, I don''t know that it would do much, I believe it needs to be strong to very strong to have a real affect. But I wouldn''t dismiss this diamond because it only had med. You want a great cut over flo.

 

[Shaninj4]

Oh, I just wanted the fluro because I love the steely blue look. Would medium fluro suffice to have that effect? Or would I have to go to a strong fluro?

 

[SYC]

Date: 4/1/2008 2:14:50 PM
Author: Shaninj4
Oh, I just wanted the fluro because I love the steely blue look. Would medium fluro suffice to have that effect? Or would I have to go to a strong fluro?

Shaninj, have you seen a diamond with this effect? Others should correct me if I''m wrong, but I think it''s rare for fluorescence to affect the appearance of a diamond in normal lighting situations.

I think the fluorescence would have to be strong to have an effect, and would have to be in a diamond color grade of I or lower. I have a pair of H/I stud earrings in which one diamond has no fluorescence, and the other has some blue fluorescence, and I can''t tell the difference between the two.

But perhaps strong blue fluorescence combined with an I color diamond will achieve the effect you''re looking for...

Good luck with your search!

 

[kcoursolle]

Date: 4/1/2008 8:08:27 AM
Author: Ellen

Date: 4/1/2008 1:25:17 AM
Author: Shaninj4
What about this one?
Why does it appear to face up so white when other H colored stones on the site appeared yellow?

For only 200.00 more, I''d get this one. It''s a H&A, plus it comes with a much better upgrade policy.

JA''s pics always look like that. It isn''t truly representitive of the diamond and how it looks in real life.

As for the flo, I don''t know that it would do much, I believe it needs to be strong to very strong to have a real affect. But I wouldn''t dismiss this diamond because it only had med. You want a great cut over flo.

ditto, very nice stone!! Don''t go by color at all from those pictures. Lighting, equipment, reflections, etc. can make a D stone look yellow! It''s best to see what color you prefer by looking at stones in person in a variety of different lighting conditions. Well-cut stones also look whiter than poorly cut stones.

 

[Shaninj4]

Currently I have a promise 3 stone ring 1 ctw, from Kay Jewelers (dreaded maul store)it''s an I color I3clarity (yes I can see the feather and the black carbon). It looks as white as can be!

Good thing I found PS before he went back to Kay''s!