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bdc9

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So I''m looking for an engagement ring, and after finally picking a setting, I''m having a little trouble with the stone. I found a stone that looks good to the eye, but the GIA report is causing me to worry a bit. The stone is 1.5 carats, G, vs1, 7.6 IC2. It does have an indented natural, which I didn''t even notice the first few times I looked at the stone. The jeweler told me that the stone would be mounted in a way that the natural would never be seen. I''m guessing the natural is contributing to the VS1 because I really don''t see any other inclusions in this stone, or at least any that are at all bothersome. The stone was graded in 2000, which seems crazy old, so I don''t have all of the crown angles and such. Here is what I do have:

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ROUND BRILLIANT

Measurements: 7.35 - 7.43 x 4.51 mm
Carat Weight: 1.50 carat
Color Grade: G
Clarity Grade: VS1
PROPORTIONS:

Depth: 61.0%
Table: 58%
Girdle: Extremely Thin to Slightly Thick, Faceted ()
Culet: Small
FINISH:

Polish: Good
Symmetry: Good
Fluorescence: Medium Blue
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The extremely thin girdle scares me, but would that be because of the natural? Would this effect the polish or symmetry at all? Any thoughts on price? I want a stone that she can be proud of, so please let me know what you think.

Thanks gang!
 
You don''t have enough information to evaluate the cut. Once thing that would concern me is the extremely thin girdle.
 
Date: 8/11/2009 4:32:19 PM
Author:bdc9
So I''m looking for an engagement ring, and after finally picking a setting, I''m having a little trouble with the stone. I found a stone that looks good to the eye, but the GIA report is causing me to worry a bit. The stone is 1.5 carats, G, vs1, 7.6 IC2. It does have an indented natural, which I didn''t even notice the first few times I looked at the stone. The jeweler told me that the stone would be mounted in a way that the natural would never be seen. I''m guessing the natural is contributing to the VS1 because I really don''t see any other inclusions in this stone, or at least any that are at all bothersome. The stone was graded in 2000, which seems crazy old, so I don''t have all of the crown angles and such. Here is what I do have:

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ROUND BRILLIANT

Measurements: 7.35 - 7.43 x 4.51 mm
Carat Weight: 1.50 carat
Color Grade: G
Clarity Grade: VS1
PROPORTIONS:

Depth: 61.0%
Table: 58%
Girdle: Extremely Thin to Slightly Thick, Faceted ()
Culet: Small
FINISH:

Polish: Good
Symmetry: Good
Fluorescence: Medium Blue
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The extremely thin girdle scares me, but would that be because of the natural? Would this effect the polish or symmetry at all? Any thoughts on price? I want a stone that she can be proud of, so please let me know what you think.

Thanks gang!
Ditto to Swingirl, I would also be concern with the extreme of the girdles especially in prongs.
 
Do you think it is classified as extremely thin because of the indented natural? Meaning, if the whole girdle is good, except the one spot where the indented natural is, would I be okay? Sorry, I hope I''m not being dense!
 
can you get this appraised and is it returnable? Do you love the diamond? in all different lighting conditioin away from the jeweler''s light? since you are the one viewing it, Also have it insured, just in case you accidentally chip that very thin girdle.
 
Can you have an independent appraisal done before making a commitment to the stone? The girdle would rule it out for me unless I had a qualified appraiser say that it was one tiny spot that would be inconsequential.
 

Hi BDC,


What does your grading report state that your inclusions are? In other words, does it show on the report of the inclusions making it a VS1 are others than the indented natural? That will tell you what they are, even if you can only find the IN under 10X magnification. Often times a VS1 can be so strictly graded that you''ll need something a bit more powerful than 10x to see the inclusions.


If it’s truly an indented natural, you''ll likely be okay. And if the price is right for you and you''re comfortable with how the diamond looks, then you also may be okay with the Extremely Thin girdle if you are planning on setting it into a 6 prong mounting. However, a 4 prong mounting will expose more of your girdle and may put the diamond in a bit more danger if the right amount of pressure is applied to the thinner area.


I would suggest looking at a few alternatives first before deciding on this one. There may be one out there similarly priced with a slightly better girdle width.
 
Most likely the extremely thin portion is created by the indented natural, and small in scope.

You can tell easy enough by louping the girdle.

If thats the case, a good setter can cover and protect the extremely thin portion by putting it under the prong. Make sure it's a good setter, because any setter can cover it, but only a good one will protect it by properly notching the prong.
 
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