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Is it true that 900 Pt / Ir is hard to cast? Or should I find a new caster?

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kanedale2

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My jeweler agreed to make my ring out of 900 Pt/Ir instead of 950 Pt/Ir since I liked the extra hardness of the 900. The ring will have an extensive amount of handwork after casting; thus, Pt/Ru and Pt/Co were not good selections.

The caster that he typically deals with came back and said that 900 Pt / Ir casts much poorer than 950 Pt/Ir and said that there are sometimes even bubbles in the ring. Does what this caster is saying hold water?? I need to figure this out today as my jewler is going to check around a bit; however, I fear that he is going to come back and re-reccomend 950.

Any advise or reccomendations are appreciated. My ring is being fabricated in San Francisco if that is of help.

Below is what I know about the two metals from John Pollards excellent post.

Cheers,

Dale


Pt900/Ir (900 parts platinum, 100 parts Iridium) is a good hard alloy. A great compromise between relative hardness for easier polish it has excellent white color and is still quite malleable. It is excellent for both casting and handmade work. Less pressure is required to set gemstones than with harder alloys. It is resistant to scratching & bending and over time is very resistant to signs of wear.

Pt950/Ir (950 parts platinum, 50 parts Iridium) is a good medium-hard alloy which is malleable and well-suited for bench work. Good for casting and excellent for handmade pieces, it is the best choice for soft or fragile gem setting. The greater softness requires a longer polishing process. It is less scratch and bend resistant than harder alloys but holds a stone better if an impact occurs; like a shock absorber. Over time it is very resistant to signs of wear.




 
If the person you want to work with won''t do it, I would find someone else. Is this a cast piece or a handmade? I know some of the most skilled "handmade" jewelers (i.e., Mark Morrell) use the 900 so there must be something to it...
 
I wouldn't feel comfortable when the jeweler doesn't feel comfortable working with a particular alloy. Either find a jeweler that casts the alloy you want more regularly and feels it is a good choice, or listen more carefully to your jeweler's reasons for preferring the 950.
 
It''s a cast piece with a lot of hand work. I was looking for a consensus opinion if 900 is castable. I am thinking it is. Can anyone else substantiate?
 
I think Cara offers some good advice...even if it IS castable, I wouldn''t let someone who isn''t comfortable working with it touch it personally...I''d find someone else who WAS comfortable with it.
 
Pt/Ir is easier to cast (and softer) then Pt/Ru... if you want hardness I''d get Pt/Ru, or Pt/W if you can find someone who can make it for you. One of the lines of jewelry we sell is all Pt/W and its the hardest alloy of Pt I''ve ever come across. Pt/W can NOT be cast, it solid billet forged and machined/polished.

Casters generally like to do a certain blend of platinum or palladium they make often and that''s it. Casting Pt or Pd alloys is a fussy science, and things like changes in ambient humidity, minor gas leaks, wax design, etc can cause havoc with porosity or other issues. I reject about 25% of all Pt and Pd castings I get from my very good casters, it''s just part of the process unfortunately. Bottom line is this --- if a caster is not regularly casting a particular alloy, he''s probably not the best man for the job anyways.
 
Thanks everyone. The comments were very helpful!
 
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