Is "ideal cut" still used in cut grades?

[FLgirl41]

So I am helping my sister and her boyfriend to pick out a diamond because they do not know much about the process. There is a store here locally that has amazing prices on diamonds and it is where I got mine. My sister is located in MN and I in FL. When I search Diamonds the word "ideal cute" still comes up. I asked the jeweler what the cut is on the diamond I found and he said it is almost ideal. I looked under the ideal scope (i think that is the name of it) and everything looked amazing. The diamond to me is awesome and it is the exact carat size my sister wants.

My sister''s boyfriend went back to the place they had found one diamond and compared the stats to the one I found. The jeweler at the place he was looking at said the term "ideal" is no longer used. Is this true or does this guy have no idea what he is talking about. I have a feeling he is just saying this to him so he wont miss his comission. I''d like to make my sisters boyfriend a little more comfortable about this because he doesn''t know much and he can only work the jeweler here in FL via phone. I have assurred him that the jeweler here is legit and knows what he is talking about and since I am a repeat buyer he gives me great deals.

Any advice on the "ideal" term would be great to reassure the future brother in law. Thanks!

 

[stone-cold11]

Depends on the grading lab usage.

GIA do not use ideal, AGS use it for AGS0, EGL used it quite liberally.

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 10/11/2009 10:39:38 AM
Author:FLgirl41
So I am helping my sister and her boyfriend to pick out a diamond because they do not know much about the process. There is a store here locally that has amazing prices on diamonds and it is where I got mine. My sister is located in MN and I in FL. When I search Diamonds the word 'ideal cute' still comes up. I asked the jeweler what the cut is on the diamond I found and he said it is almost ideal. I looked under the ideal scope (i think that is the name of it) and everything looked amazing. The diamond to me is awesome and it is the exact carat size my sister wants.

My sister's boyfriend went back to the place they had found one diamond and compared the stats to the one I found. The jeweler at the place he was looking at said the term 'ideal' is no longer used. Is this true or does this guy have no idea what he is talking about. I have a feeling he is just saying this to him so he wont miss his comission. I'd like to make my sisters boyfriend a little more comfortable about this because he doesn't know much and he can only work the jeweler here in FL via phone. I have assurred him that the jeweler here is legit and knows what he is talking about and since I am a repeat buyer he gives me great deals.

Any advice on the 'ideal' term would be great to reassure the future brother in law. Thanks!

One of the first uses of the term Ideal Cut refers to Tolkowsky Ideal Cut.

Around here the term Ideal Cut generally refers to AGS0 Ideal cut grade, but this term is subject to misuse and misinterpretation. GIA's highest cut grade is Excellent, there is no Ideal GIA graded cut although that does not mean there aren't beautiful GIA graded diamonds to be found - there are. It is commonly seen that vendors do use the term to describe their better cut goods using terms as Ideal Cut, Premium Cut and so forth but it is no guarantee of a well cut diamond.

The most important thing is to evaluate each diamond on its own desirable visual and physical properties to be able to judge the cut properly rather than relying on any descriptions given such as Ideal Cut.

 

[FLgirl41]

Thank you for your input. It is EGL USA; however, when I looked at it, it seemed amazing. I compared it to other diamonds and the diamond really sparkled like crazy. It definetly sparkles more than my own which is also EGL certified and mine sparkles like crazy

I know EGL does tend to grade their diamonds less strikley than AGS and GIA, but I am confident that this one is pretty accurate. Now lets cross our fingers and hope my sisters boyfriend likes it so they can get engaged

 

[WinkHPD]

Why are you confident that this one is accurate?

Wink

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 10/11/2009 9:15:14 PM
Author: FLgirl41
Thank you for your input. It is EGL USA; however, when I looked at it, it seemed amazing. I compared it to other diamonds and the diamond really sparkled like crazy. It definetly sparkles more than my own which is also EGL certified and mine sparkles like crazy

I know EGL does tend to grade their diamonds less strikley than AGS and GIA, but I am confident that this one is pretty accurate. Now lets cross our fingers and hope my sisters boyfriend likes it so they can get engaged

You are welcome!

I would advise making the sale final on the diamond checking out with an independant appraisal, here is a tool you can use to find an appraiser in your area. Unless you have had actual experience and recognized training grading diamonds I don't think really the layperson can judge accuracy of colour and clarity grading...