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Stephan

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strmrdr (Karl) knows this:
~ My left eye is blind;
~ I need a diamond that performs (fire) under strong lighting, that''s more important to me than light return and diffuse lighting.
Sure, Karl will help me, but everybody is welcome!

As Jim was great with me, please JA diamonds only.

I have a first proposition:
http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/I-VS1-Ideal-Cut-Round-Diamond-1254383.asp
 
Date: 8/11/2009 11:11:53 AM
Author:QueenMum
strmrdr (Karl) knows this:
~ My left eye is blind;
~ I need a diamond that performs (fire) under strong lighting, that''s more important to me than light return and diffuse lighting.
Sure, Karl will help me, but everybody is welcome!

As Jim was great with me, please JA diamonds only.

I have a first proposition:
http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/I-VS1-Ideal-Cut-Round-Diamond-1254383.asp
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Stephan can you post everything you want down to colour, clarity, budget, table, depth, angles, star and LGF percents? Then we can have a good rummage through JA inventory for you!
 
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Yay! I love a guy who''s willing to get back in the saddle!

Shopping is the best medicine. I''m going back to look at the specs of your other stone, so I can help.
 
Date: 8/11/2009 11:11:53 AM
Author:QueenMum
strmrdr (Karl) knows this:
~ My left eye is blind;
~ I need a diamond that performs (fire) under strong lighting, that''s more important to me than light return and diffuse lighting.
Sure, Karl will help me, but everybody is welcome!

As Jim was great with me, please JA diamonds only.

I have a first proposition:
http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/I-VS1-Ideal-Cut-Round-Diamond-1254383.asp
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That is a gorgeous diamond on paper Stephan. Very close to all my own stones stats. Could be a real contender, but we''d need to see an IS on it.

However, going with a different set of angles, such as a PA closer to the 40.6-40.7 range with a higher crown/smaller table, might get you a tad more fiery diamond, if that''s important. Just a thought.
 
Hi Lorelei!
color: everything OK
size: at least 0.9ct - no maximum ;)
clarity: very very eye clean (VS1 or better)
budget: let''s say 10K (only the diamond)
HCA score if GIA: EX/EX/EX if AGS: Ideal 0
star facets that make the table look ''elongated'' and the upper girdles look bright (look at the pictures for that). I really don''t like the look of short stars.
lower girdle: 75%-82% (it depends on the other facets)

http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/E-VS1-Ideal-Cut-Round-Diamond-1247275.asp
This one looks good but I suspect the pavilion to have an angle > 41°.
 
Date: 8/11/2009 11:36:38 AM
Author: sarap333
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Yay! I love a guy who''s willing to get back in the saddle!

Shopping is the best medicine. I''m going back to look at the specs of your other stone, so I can help.
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Well, yes, shopping is the best medicine, but not for my wallet!
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If you find some VERY clean VS2, I''ll be happy too!
 
Date: 8/11/2009 11:11:53 AM
Author:QueenMum
As Jim was great with me, please JA diamonds only.
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That''s the spirit Stephan! And I love the expression of loyalty in this particular situation! Way to turn a sucky situation around as yet another example of how cool the people on Price Scope are!

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Date: 8/11/2009 11:39:19 AM
Author: Ellen
However, going with a different set of angles, such as a PA closer to the 40.6-40.7 range with a higher crown/smaller table, might get you a tad more fiery diamond, if that''s important. Just a thought.
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I totally agree with you Ellen!
But under very strong lighting, I saw some 32.5° crowns burning with fire.
34° crown is fine for me. 41° pavilion, as you mentioned, is a limit.
 
Date: 8/11/2009 11:50:48 AM
Author: Todd Gray
That''s the spirit Stephan! And I love the expression of loyalty in this particular situation! Way to turn a sucky situation around as yet another example of how cool the people on Price Scope are!
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Hi Todd!
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Don''t try to make me blush
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, help me find something!
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Date: 8/11/2009 11:56:57 AM
Author: QueenMum

Date: 8/11/2009 11:39:19 AM
Author: Ellen
However, going with a different set of angles, such as a PA closer to the 40.6-40.7 range with a higher crown/smaller table, might get you a tad more fiery diamond, if that''s important. Just a thought.
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I totally agree with you Ellen!
But under very strong lighting, I saw some 32.5° crowns burning with fire.
34° crown is fine for me. 41° pavilion, as you mentioned, is a limit.
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Well if very well cut, this combo can be truly gorgeous! If I do say so myself.
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So that first one is a real contender in my book!
 
Thank you Ellen, your opinion is important to me.
con: the certificate is not recent
BUT
pro: hey, it''s an Isee2!
 
Wow, wow, wow.
You guys are incredible.
Lorelei, you picked 2 wonderful stones. (Did you notice that the J also is Isee2?)
Karl, your number 1 has an optical symmetry that doesn''t attract, yet the stone has to be seen to judge it. But man, your number 2 is incredible! And the price!!!
I keep browsing.
Which one is the favorite one for strong fire under strong lighting?
 
Date: 8/11/2009 12:10:22 PM
Author: QueenMum
Thank you Ellen, your opinion is important to me.
con: the certificate is not recent
BUT
pro: hey, it''s an Isee2!
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It is! Totally didn''t even see that, and I didn''t even know JA sold them. Well, you can rest assured it''s a very good cut then, and I wouldn''t worry about the cert date. An IS would still be prudent, but I''m thinking it will be just fine.

And thank you Stephan, that''s very nice of you to say.
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Date: 8/11/2009 12:42:24 PM
Author: QueenMum
Wow, wow, wow.
You guys are incredible.
Lorelei, you picked 2 wonderful stones. (Did you notice that the J also is Isee2?)
Karl, your number 1 has an optical symmetry that doesn''t attract, yet the stone has to be seen to judge it. But man, your number 2 is incredible! And the price!!!
I keep browsing.
Which one is the favorite one for strong fire under strong lighting?
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I did notice its an Isee2! We will find you something wonderful, they are out there!
 
Date: 8/11/2009 11:39:19 AM
Author: Ellen
However, going with a different set of angles, such as a PA closer to the 40.6-40.7 range with a higher crown/smaller table, might get you a tad more fiery diamond, if that's important. Just a thought.
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With his eyesight long lgf% with 41 or even a little over with the right crown is better.
He will see about 25%+ more obstruction than most people in many combos.
long lgf% and slightly deep pavilions cancel that out.
 
Date: 8/11/2009 12:52:42 PM
Author: strmrdr
http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/H-VS2-Premium-Cut-Round-Diamond-1254342.asp?b=16&a=12&c=77&cid=131
This one if the IS checks out and it should is the best cut for you of the 2 I found so far.
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Look at the HCA if you change the crown from 32.5 to 32!
But I agree that it looks promising! (and the price!!!)
The inclusion plot looks very ugly, but I can't notice the inclusions in the picture.
What about the 2 Isee2's we've found with Lorelei?
 
Date: 8/11/2009 12:49:39 PM
Author: strmrdr

Date: 8/11/2009 11:39:19 AM
Author: Ellen
However, going with a different set of angles, such as a PA closer to the 40.6-40.7 range with a higher crown/smaller table, might get you a tad more fiery diamond, if that''s important. Just a thought.
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With his eyesight long lgf% with 41 or even a little over with the right crown is better.
He will see about 25%+ more obstruction than most people in many combos.
long lgf% and slightly deep pavilions cancel that out.
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Ok, thanks for splainin!
 
Date: 8/11/2009 1:09:59 PM
Author: QueenMum
OK guys/gals, I know what was called ''ring of the death''.

And I know its HCA is only VG:

http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/I-VVS1-Ideal-Cut-Round-Diamond-1249152.asp

But I find this diamond attracting.

Will it perform nicely in matter of fire under strong lighting?
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need to see the IS
A ring of death will really be a ring of death to you because it isn''t being hidden by a 2 eye view so we need to be careful.
Fire should be great but a different look than the other.
It depends on the extent of the under table leakage.
 
Date: 8/11/2009 1:16:17 PM
Author: strmrdr
A ring of death will really be a ring of death to you because it isn''t being hidden by a 2 eye view so we need to be careful.
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You are certainly right because my eye always discarded steep/deep combos before.
 
Date: 8/11/2009 12:59:18 PM
Author: QueenMum

What about the 2 Isee2's we've found with Lorelei?
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The first one would work
With a 40.8 pavilion I would stick to a 80% or higher lgf% for you.
 
Is the table too small on this one?

Also, QueenMum, are you okay with the size being slightly under a carat?
Because I found a few nicely-priced stones in the .90 - 1.0 range in the D-F color range that might work proportionwise.


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