IGI call revealed this on 1.01

[lorena]

I am realizing I should have read prior posts - sorry about that - I''m a newbie and ignorant although trying to learn... IGA - yes this is from a mall jewelry store so I''m thinking that was my first mistake. But the 0% interest got me - IGA info:
1.01 Carat
E Color
SI(2)
6.07-6.15 x 4.08
round brilliant
good polish & symmetry
depth - 66.8
table - 63
no florescence
no culet
gircle - very thin to very thick (????) (i asked twice)
replacement (for insurance only) $10,285
I paid 5000 - is that fair?

I know you educated diamond people are probably sick of seeing this type of thing posted by a million of us uneducated ones... I am the same way about horses - it''s hard to always go back and answer questions for the ignorant...but pleeeeeeez!

 

[rocks]

if you can, take it back. you paid for a true ideal gia or ags fsi2. that is not what you got. i understand that 0% is attractive, but in all liklihood you did not get a fair deal. the stone is poorly cut, and will look like an .80 to .85ct stone, had it been properly cut....

sorry....

 

[valeria101]

Please accept my appologies for the following.

Such unusual diamonds do get sold and bougth - for better or for worse - all the time, so you are not the only one going for it. However, a fair price for this may be more around 3k. The main discount is for the cut which manages to breack just about every rule.

Now... this may not be a disaster in Your view. The main detractions about this rock would be smaller diameter (it should have been about 6.5 mm) and reduced light return (sparkle) compared to what can be achieved for this cut model. It is likely that the second effect shows even more than size.. but there is no way to know unless you get to compare stones or run some test to compare the piece with some benchmark.

Can you return this stone? If not... it may not be the worst out there

after all. What is consider "ideal" cut diamonds make for less than 2% of diamonds sold - they say - so yours would most likely compare favorably with the average stone out there.

 

[lorena]

Thank you very much for your help. I need to tell my boyfriend asap - they told him it was a good stone - but we certainly don't need the rip off --- I just found some website on a diamond information page - they are pricing diamonds like we thought we were getting from 3300 up to 5500 with alot better depth and table - that's what we get for being whimsical - not a good thing in buying diamonds...thanks.

 

[lorena]

One other question - so many of you seem to be looking at online diamonds - I called my boyfriend and he was so very skeptical about doing that? He is afraid to not "see" what he is getting - so how in the world can you KNOW for sure if you will even GET what some online place is selling you??? Or IF they will even send it once they get your money????

 

[diane5006]

Hi if youe BF is cautious about buying on the net...there are several ways to make sure you are getting a good deal

one of the ways is to have the stone sent to an independant appraiser...who will assess you stone and let you know that it is what you are buying...

Also a lot of GIA and AGS stones and some others have registration numbers inscribed on the girdle and you can take it to someone your self to have them verify it

There are many reliable vendors that will help you get the best value for your money...

Take a peek through the posts here and then check out their websites...and you can call as well...some also have stores..so you won't being buiying blind

Best of Luck in your search

 

[valeria101]

Hm.. just a bit of more E-advocacy:

Actually, it is the skepticism of first-time internet buyers and the extra amount of information one needs to 'process' to buy online that keep prices attractive. Not a bad thing, if you are not among the skeptics, of course

After all, are you sure you can positively identify the authenticity of the stones and certs a traditional jeweler shows you? maybe, maybe not. Online sellers are bound to give more information on the merchandise and extra checks of authenticity (such as the intermediation of an appraisal) are already in-built in the system to take care of any remaining doubt.

I know online sellers have many more opportunities to cheat... but they could only do it once. These are established businesses like any other, so they need to be good at what they are doing to stay in business. It does take a certain mental model to know what a stone with certain specs looks like once it descends from ciberspace into that FedEx envelope, but you need not be an expert: this is what return policies are for. Can they go wrong? Yes, but actually none of the intereated parties prefers that: otherwise there would be no diamonds sold on the net

Besides, some of the online sellers do have shops, so the lines between on and off line are not all that crisp.

 

[lorena]

Thanks - I can see this search will be excellent as a diet-aid - I will be skipping lunch today to search around! THANKS

 

[Rank Amateur]

I ran the stone on the HCA.

The results: "Woof! Worst stone run in 6 months!"

 

[pqcollectibles]

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On 3/17/2004 5:18:42 PM Rank Amateur wrote:

I ran the stone on the HCA.

The results: 'Woof! Worst stone run in 6 months!'----------------

Of diamonds with posted specs, RA! There are worse!!

 

[niceice]

Hello Lorena,

We're happy to see that you decided to investigate your purchase before too much time passed and it became too late to return the stone, most people discover their first buying mistakes many years later when they decide to buy another diamond or upgrade their stone and then they are really shocked and dismayed and angry that some retail jeweler took advantage of their basic trust. With regards to your BF's hesitancy to purchase a diamond sight unseen from an internet vendor, his concern is valid and well founded with regards to many of the internet diamond dealers which merely list thousands of diamonds for sale by mirroring the multiple listing services available to the trade by subscription because those vendors drop ship the diamonds to their customers direct from their suppliers without seeing the diamonds that they "represent". However many of us house physical inventory which has been carefully selected and physically evaluated for brilliance, dispersion, scintillation, inclusion type - extent - and location, clarity, color, etc. and compared to the GIA or AGS diamond grading reports... Those of us who are reputable don't play the mall store "paper game" involving EGL, IGI, IGA diamond grading reports... And to be blunt, we live in a glass fish bowl here on Price Scope where every move we make is watched by thousands of people so none of us is going to do anything to jeapardize our good standing in the community. Check out the various private inventory lists of the sellers here on PS, avoid the ones who seem to be listing the exact same diamonds as everybody else... Pay attention to the various return policies offered by each vendor and check out the good standing of each vendor with the Jewelers Vigilance Committee which is kind of like the Better Business Bureau but it is specific to our industry and they have sharper teeth. Do your homework before your purchase by reading all of the tutorials available here on PS and the various vendor sites and you're sure to find the right diamond at a fair price this time. In addition to our site, we suggest visiting GOG, WhiteFlash, SuperbCert, DBOF and DirtCheap as all of us carry physical inventory to some extent, we personally don't sell anything that we haven't personally evaluated, but some of these sites cater to both markets...

 

[Rank Amateur]

Of diamonds with posted specs, RA! There are worse!!

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66.8 depth is the largest I've seen in awhile, and the girdle does from Vthin to Vthick. This is one stone that might actually be warped!

 

[phoenixgirl]

Non-ideal stones cut too deep with non-GIA or AGS certs are going for high $2000s to low $4000s right now. I'd say your stone would be at the low end of that.

If I were you, I would be on my way to return this stone already.

Then you can get something like this:

1.04 D SI2 GIA Cert 0.9 on the HCA for $4972 Mention Price Scope to get the price I listed versus the price on their site. Look at this stone's idealscope! And its diameter is 6.63mm versus your stone's 6.10 -- it will look way bigger! For the same money! D color . . . great cut . . . GIA cert!

And this is just the first stone I found. I'm sure you could find other great deals locally (now that you've done your homework) or online (where prices are already competitive due to the ability to do a little pointing and clicking and compare apples to apples).