if you could choose one which one would you pick.

[tac1130]

round 3.2 carat H color SI 2 good cut good pollish
or
round 2.09 carat F color SI 1 ideal, ideal

if they were both the same price and you had to choose because i have to decide by tomorrow please hep..

 

[Circe]

Oooo, tough one - do you have any additional info. at all? I''m wondering if both stones are eye-clean, if they''re graded by the same lab (and which one or ones), and which one appeals most to *you* ....

 

[heb1976]

Date: 5/18/2008 9:17:04 PM
Author:tac1130
round 3.2 carat H color SI 2 good cut good pollish
or
round 2.09 carat F color SI 1 ideal, ideal

if they were both the same price and you had to choose because i have to decide by tomorrow please hep..

2.09 F ideal as long as it''s AGS ideal. Quality over quanity in my opinion.

 

[tac1130]

2 carat is GIA and 3 carat is IGI cert both are pritty eye clean but the E color 2 carat is alot "whiter" help me. but 3 carats is so nice! UG!

 

[arjunajane]

Date: 5/18/2008 9:34:13 PM
Author: tac1130
2 carat is GIA and 3 carat is IGI cert both are pritty eye clean but the E color 2 carat is alot ''whiter'' help me. but 3 carats is so nice! UG!

tac, do you have access to more detailed info so we can an informed decision?

ie. you will need:
dimensions
total depth
table size
crown angle
pavillion angle
girdle

I would hesitate to say that the IGI cert may be a deal breaker though - can you compare two from GIA or AGS?

 

[tac1130]

why is the IGI a bad cert?

 

[bling addict]

I''d pick the 2 ct F

 

[zerj]

Date: 5/18/2008 9:48:44 PM
Author: tac1130
why is the IGI a bad cert?

IGI is thought of as an easier grader than GIA or AGS. So people wouldn''t be terribly suprised if that H/SI2 would grade as a J/I1 by GIA/AGS.

I think jewelers know this so a a valid question is why would a jeweler send a 3 caret diamond to IGI instead of GIA? Were they afraid it would get a lower grade and thus make thier markup lower?

Still it would be really helpful to get ahold of the angles/measurements asked for above. For GIA at least you can obtain all this info with the certification number and the caret wieght from GIA''s website. It might be easier to ask for that than to ask for all the measurements.

 

[diamondseeker2006]

This would be a super easy decision for me! I''d MUCH rather have the better quality 2 ct. stone!!!

 

[tac1130]

i wish i knew the measurements but i dont ....i need to chooses by tomorrow please help give all opinions please...

 

[carabella]

I''d go for the 2 carat -- an F SI1 would be more mind clean for me than a H SI2.

 

[heb1976]

Have you seen both? Which one do YOU like best as far as beauty of the diamond? I used to think I liked warmer stones b/c my first diamond was an H but once I saw an I and H and G together I realized how much I loved stones with less color. As far as GIA ratings go just because it''s rated excellent doesn''t mean it''s a top performer. You have to worry about pavilion and crown angles complimenting each other and lgf and star% combos that you like best. I went through a hundred GIA stone reports to find a few that ranked under 2 on the Holloway and did the eyeball test from there. I personally wouldn''t be rushed into a purchase like this if it were at all possible.

 

[arjunajane]

I'm sorry but I agree with heb- GIA excellent is a Verrry big range..you'll find most around here are very hesitant to advise to buy a stone without all the info. If the stone has a GIA cert, you will be able to access the measurements - just call the vendor and ask.
Also may I ask how come is the big rush? these aren't the only two choices around in this size/colour etc, so if the seller is pressuring you to make a decision without all the info I would pass.
If its something else for the deadline, then I apologize for being presumptious!

sorry if its not the answer you wanted

 

[marcy]

I would go with the ideal cut - quality over size any day for me.

 

[arjunajane]

Date: 5/18/2008 10:39:50 PM
Author: marcyc
I would go with the ideal cut - quality over size any day for me.

I'm not sure how come Tac you say the 2.09 is an "ideal" cut - GIA only grades to Excellent as their top range for cut - where is this info coming from sorry?

 

[Circe]

The other consideration to keep in mind ... you say these are the same price, but is the price considerably better than what you could find on the open market? Or are these family stones, or something like that?

 

[tac1130]

well on the GIA paper it said (Excellent-Ideal )

 

[tac1130]

no these are from jared.... my first ring was fron there so now is upgrade time i have to stick with them

 

[heb1976]

Do you have a copy of the GIA report?

 

[Circe]

Ah, okay, I see ... it might be helpful if you could say what your budget is for this, to see what your options are: I''m afraid I don''t have any experience with Jared, but most brick-and-mortar jewelers (of necessity) have higher mark-ups than internet retailers do. These stones could be beautiful choices that cost less than anything you could find elsewhere, given the trade-in value ... or you might possibly have other options. Would you feel comfortable sharing that?

 

[NeverEndingUpgrade]

I have trouble wrapping my mind around SI2s. So I would pick the 2.09 especially since it is ideal cut. Are you trading in a diamond and that is why you are shopping with Jared?

 

[heb1976]

Is the reason for the rush because it''s the return deadline because you already purchased the 3.2? I remember reading another of your posts about this diamond looking yellow. I would would not keep this diamond if it looks yellow and it bothered me because you will never be satisfied with it. Even though you have to return this diamond by tomorrow(assuming) couldn''t you still keep your credit and make a more informed decision in a couple of days?

 

[sera]

If those two were my only option, I would prefer a better cut. Are there other stones they could call in so that you're sure about your choice?

 

[Allison D.]

Date: 5/18/2008 10:49:10 PM
Author: tac1130
well on the GIA paper it said (Excellent-Ideal )

GIA''s grading doesn''t have an "ideal"; their top grade is excellent. All GIA excellent stones aren''t necessarily comparable in cut to AGS0 (Ideal) stones.....their range of "excellent" is much broader than the range allowed in AGS "ideal". It''s possible that the GIA excellent is as well cut as an AGS0; it''s also possible that it''s not quite as well cut as an AGS0. Just want to make sure you''re aware of that as you shop.

Between the two diamonds listed, I''d definitely select the 2-carat. You noted that the 3-ct is only "good" in cut, and cut is the thing I''d least compromise on. Beyond that, IGI is a softer grading lab than GIA, so their H may very well be an I or J, and their SI2 may be an I1.

 

[iheartscience]

Definitely get the 2 carat F.

 

[ilovethiswebsite]

most def. the 2 carat ideal with the better color... quality of quantity any day!!!

 

[somehowcollide]

Another one in the quality over quantity camp. This was a hard lesson for me to learn. I know someone who has a large stone with bad color and I clarity (although I believe it may be eye clean). She gets a lot of "oohs" and "ahhs" but just by people who don''t really know much about diamonds. I would much rather have a beautiful stone that is valued by a true connoisseur, than a big one that gets oogled at on the subway.

Plus a 2 carat is no teeny, tiny rock either, you''ll be getting size either way!

 

[Dancing Fire]

Date: 5/18/2008 9:17:04 PM
Author:tac1130
round 3.2 carat H color SI 2 good cut good pollish
or
round 2.09 carat F color SI 1 ideal, ideal

if they were both the same price and you had to choose because i have to decide by tomorrow please hep..

what kind of $$$''s are we talking about here?

 

[tac1130]

$25,000

 

[arjunajane]

Date: 5/19/2008 5:38:52 AM
Author: tac1130
$25,000

As I said before, these can''t be the only two options in your desired specs - ask for more choices - or more info. Jareds are supposed to be selling ideal cut diamonds now so they should be aware of the importance of the cert and using the numbers to help you choose.
Then again, only you have seen these diamonds, so if you must then choose which ever looks nicest in different lighting - this means taking it away from the bright spotlights in the store, toward natural light at a window or outside is better if you can.